... What happened? You mean how is it that available food does not end up with the needy? If that is your Q, then we need to discuss economics, greed,...
... ~~~~~ Interesting that you use the term "man made", and I guess that is right, it was men who devised the notion of individual rights (see feminist ...
... ~~~~ Yes, but maybe we can further agree that slugs cause disease in utter innocence of their act - rather different with nerve agents and other chemical...
... ~~~~~ Here's the confusion then perhaps. For many who think in terms of 'food chains' being relevant to human society, they often assume that being "at...
... Cassie. Fascinating isn't it that you, who show no awareness of AR writing, immediately focus on the anti-AR writer. Now, why is that do you think? As far...
Thought I'd forward this as an example of British AR campaigning. Note the ref to PEACEFUL campaigning - and the welfare response at the end. Rags. +++ Dogs'...
... What are you saying Cassie, "wild" animal populations get into difficulties? What would be an AR response to that is an interesting question. But Jim was...
Cassie, What would be the expected outcome to either proving or disproving a certain body of philosophic thought? I value philosophy very much, but formal...
In a message dated 4/1/2004 5:11:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, Animal_Rights_Debate@yahoogroups.com writes: As for research, NAIA supports research conducted...
... Other ... interference ... Rags, What you're overlooking here is that carnivores (and omnivores) regulate populations as well. Taking humans out of the...
Cassie - a little advise. Whenever Rags uses the word "genuine" when refering to animal rights, substitute "my limited opinion of" and you'll begin to...
To his credit, Singer is only being honest. If I understand him correctly, he's an atheist. (I haven't read him, only of him.) Without an objective source of...
Michelle, I had hoped someone would see the pic someday! :) They are natural that way. Those three were litter mates. Both of thier parents were bald. Nice to...
Rags, yes, that was my question. If it was only a 5% need to reduce meat intake to feed that many hungry...and I am fairly sure that close to that amount has...
Jim, ... Photos or videos taken by groups with an agenda are not acceptable evidence of a crime when taken by advocacy groups because they are not only easily ...
... Actually Steve you are not correct. But - I'm quite prepared to do what Tom Regan does and say things like "Animal rights, as I conceive of it, means..." I...
Jim, ... Bison were wiped out in a concerted effort to rob native Americans of their source of food and fiber in a shameful chapter in American history. Norma...
Jim, ... The mustang situation is complex. The reason for the roundups is that the horses (and the wild burros) are so successful that they are destroying ...
If I understand you Steve - and I'm not saying I will because the meaning of what you write is a little hazy to me - I think you are articulating your view of...
Rags, Yes, I use "man" as in "human". I'm not a feminist and am not insulted by fe"male" or wo'man' or even mail'man'. :) 'man'kind is even ok with me. I'm...
Rags - I'm not trying to articulate anything about human-nonhuman relations. I'm trying to understand your concept of rights. Perhaps this will help to...
... like ... Regan and ... that ... Right. Which is why using the word "genuine" is more than a little presumptuous. Given the many assorted versions of what...
Does this mean, then, Lisa, that is it a man-only thing and cannot or perhaps should not be used to protect the interests of women - or are you using the old...
... ~~~~~ The claim is that the logic of animal rights is that nonhuman animals should not be subject to human use - BUT then we have the problem of getting...
... ~~~~ Lines have to be drawn somewhere don't they? Otherwise our professional pro-abuse person, Norma, could end up being cited "as AR". We've said on...
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