You know Jim, I have tried my very best not to expose you for the science poseur that you are here. Because you refuse to actually LEARN about science, you are...
Once again, you show that you have no understanding of evolution or science Jim. The fact that you keep calling certain animals "higher" than others, shows...
I'm still waiting to hear Jim explain what this term "AR ideal type" means? An ideal type of WHAT? bint alshamsa ... eyes ... notion ... the ... ideas ... ...
I suppose Jim thinks that all of us rely on other folks to give us our opinion in the way that he and Rags dote on authors they don't even understand. The...
This is foolishness. If you express a point of view in debate, then you are attempting to propagate the view or disprove it. If you are knowingly propagating a...
Uh! You just get worse and worse here Jim. At one time I could try to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you really didn't think you were just...
You have got to be kidding me! If a trait exists AT ALL, in ANY SPECIES alive today, it is because it sprung up at some moment in history. If you had bothered...
Lisa - the "you" in your first sentence is not a ref. to me is it? Because I am far from surprised by the abilities of nonhumans who are not enslaved. Rags. ...
... Gael--THIS is WHERE the problem is. I don't know WHAT you mean by you never said that. Maybe you didn't say it in THOSE words. BUT--for GODS SAKE! THAT...
... My point to Jim has been that no specific wall exists....that genetic mutation has been an ongoing process since the very first lifeform appeared. No...
... Once again, you show that you have no understanding of evolution or science Jim. The fact that you keep calling certain animals "higher" than others, shows...
New trait does not EQUAL wall. The qustion here is NOT whether there are differences between human and nonhuman, but, rather, WHAT those differences are--and...
Lisa, I know you have this addressed to Rags, so I hope you won't mind my butting in. You have the same rights that you do--no matter what culture your're ...
Gael, Honest debate with you is not possible. You have a talent for saying one thing (or at least SEEMING to say one thing) AND then LATER when it suits...
Rags and Lisa, Has there been any explanation as to WHAT means the nonhumans MIGHT have used to anticipate and escape the tsusami? My brother speculates that...
... <jbranscom@c...> wrote: You have a talent for saying one thing (or at least SEEMING to say one thing) AND then LATER when it suits you--claiming you never...
... Has there been any explanation as to WHAT means the nonhumans MIGHT have used to anticipate and escape the tsusami? ... My brother speculates that it might...
... <jbranscom@c...> wrote: One of they ways we are different is that WE have a moral conscience. IF some other animals have a moral conscience as Gael has ...
Wishing ALL posters, regardless of "side" or philosophy, a happy, healthy, safe and prosperous new year. And Rags, I spent the morning getting slobbered on by...
In Animal_Rights_Debate@yahoogroups.com, "lisa" <lmstanley2003@y.. ... statement. I ... should have the privelege of not being eaten by another born into that...
Gael, Your response (about projection) says NOTHING unless you provide substantiation of my doing the SAME thing. Otherwise that's just like an adolescent...
Jim, ... As usual, you make broad, sweeping statements that are so much hi-falutin' rhetoric. Do you think about the implications of what you write or the ...
And Gael--I DON'T hope YOU made a New Years resolution to start minding your own gaddam business when it comes to personal matters! It's ONLY a reflection on...
Norma, I'm not talking about anthing BUT an ideal here! Why SHOULD welfare standards be defined ONLY by those who profit from using animals? The danger there...
Exactly right. The wall that separates mankind from amoeba-kind or plant-kind didn't stop their development. It simply SEPARATES the direction they went in...
Call it a wall. Call it a divider. Call it a pretty Japanese screen covered in pictures of geisha girls. It doesn't matter to me. The truth is simply that...
New ABILITY does signify the presence of a wall though, Jim. This isn't about traits, it's about abilities. Those differences, that make up the wall of...
Okay, so now we have one right that supposedly exists--the right to be free. Well, how do you know it exists Jim? How do you know that any human has reason to...
Bint--amoeba to human DOES represent a profound separation! However, amoebas and even realtively remote kin like starfish is not real urgently at issue. We are...
I believe--as is in agreement with the understanding of rights held in western society as a foundation to law and governance--that rights exist independently...
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