Norma, I agree that your description of AR is right -- albeit heavily focused on the Thou Shalt Nots with no hint of what some of us see as the positive...
What Goes Around Comes Around by Will Tuttle, Ph.D One of the fundamental ideas found throughout the world's religions and emphasized by spiritual teachers of...
... The argument comparing chickens however to ... It does no such thing. It merely expresses concern for both human beings and chickens. Rags. -- This mail...
Furthermore--even IF one DOES place a relatively higher value on the lives of humans than the lives of chicken--one should STILL be able to see the comparison...
Pro, There is the formal AR movement to which you seem to adhere to quite closely. Naturally those who identify with the stricter adherence to doctrine don't...
This could throw a little spark in the debate... I know what I think about scientists creating things like this (they shouldn't), but I'm not sure where I...
In a message dated 1/31/2005 9:44:48 PM Mountain Standard Time, lmstanley2003@... writes: <<<KC, I'm glad that was your childhood and not mine. I'm sure...
In a message dated 2/1/2005 12:29:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, pro.bonobo@... writes: A dog and a cat are animals, KC, and so am I. Here we go again -...
Jim, ... AR is an idea that will lead to the results I listed if it is allowed to proceed to fruition. How is that a gross stereotype? For the record, I do...
Pro B, ... Nor do the handlers of search dogs ... they wait until the collapse is complete, the mudslide over, the avalanche done, etc. before releasing their...
Pro B, ... Can you list some of those positive aspects? Since the AR movement/AR ideals seek to take away what most people see as the benefits of interaction...
In a message dated 2/1/2005 12:32:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, pro.bonobo@... writes: What about the chimera - the being, manipulated by scientists to...
Interesting piece, but in my view Dr. Tuttle has things in a bit of a twist. I don't see any cosmic cause & effect relating to consequenses due to our...
Yeah, I guess it is but I think such rites are important. So many cultures have lots those rites that were significant to them and really I think without them,...
It is arrogant and pompous to believe that you can know what is best for an animal that you know nothing about. They are actually less vulnerable to harm than...
The movement itself is led by those with with "authoritarian thinking". I agree that those within the movement are not a "big" number but I suggest to you that...
The same stuff happens to those who don't eat animals and believe they aren't a part of the suffering of animals so there must be some other cause for it all. ...
Really? Tell that to the Jews, Jim. You are in no place to say what others should be able to view something as. The chicken is completely unable to experience...
Looks like you've got your crystal ball out again, hunh Jim? While you're predicting what decisions we will all make in the future, do you think you could tell...
<<<It does no such thing. It merely expresses concern for both human beings and chickens. Rags.>> I disagree profoundly. It is, IMO and the opinion of most...
You put that better than I've ever seen that thought expressed here, Steve. It's beyond me why these people think that we should start with some other species...
Having problems with message search?
Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.
