Studies link pesticides to plunging bee populations

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Studies link pesticides to plunging bee populations

A widely used family of pesticides may cause bees to lose their homing instincts and hinder the survival of their colonies, European researchers reported Thursday, suggesting that governments should re-examine their use.

A French study used tiny radiotransmitters to track honeybees as they left and returned to their hives and found that many of them failed to return after being exposed to non-lethal amounts of one pesticide.

British researchers, meanwhile, found that bumblebee colonies exposed to common levels of another pesticide from the same family grew more slowly and produced nearly 85% fewer queens than non-exposed colonies, "which clearly could have very strong implications for bumblebee populations in the wild," co-author Dave Goulson said Thursday in Paris.
"I would suggest that there is a need to urgently re-evaluate the use of these pesticides on flowering crops," said Goulson, a biology professor at the University of Stirling in Scotland.

The studies released Thursday are the latest to point to neonicotinoid insecticides, which are often used to treat seeds for cereals and some flowering crops like corn, as a factor in plunging bee populations. The chemicals mimic the effect of the tobacco ingredient nicotine, which is used as a natural insecticide, and pose less risk to humans and other mammals.

Both papers are being published in this week's edition of the peer-reviewed journal Science.

The research is an attempt to understand the phenomenon known as colony collapse disorder, in which beehives fail to survive. Bees pollinate about a third of U.S. food crops, so the sharp die-offs that beekeepers began to report in 2006 pose a high risk to farmers, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Mikael Henry, a researcher at France's National Institute for Agricultural Research, said honeybees exposed to a non-lethal amount of the pesticide thiamethoxam "had a probability to disappear away from their nests in much greater proportions than non-intoxicated honeybees."

"Honeybees intoxicated with small doses will just get lost and are not able to find their way back home," Henry said. When he and his colleagues used a mathematical model to project the loss rates, they found that colonies would undergo "a marked decline within several weeks," he said.

That leaves the hives vulnerable to collapsing "if there are other stresses in the environment, such as parasites or climate changes or a loss of natural food resources," Henry said.

Thursday’s papers mark the third time research has tied bee deaths to neonicotinoids in the past month. An Italian study published in the American Chemical Society’s journal Environmental Science and Technology suggested that particles thrown off by seed drilling machines can expose bees to high levels of neonicotinoids, while a study led by Indiana’s Purdue University found the insecticides in pollen collected by bees from corn and other plants.

Regulators in France, Germany, Italy and Slovenia have imposed tighter rules on the neonicotinoids in recent years. The USDA and the Environmental Protection Agency say chemical pesticides are one of several possible suspects behind colony collapse disorder, but the EPA says it is in the process of re-evaluating all neonicotinoids.

“We believe that developing revised risk assessment methods will improve our understanding and strengthen the scientific and regulatory process to protect honeybees and other pollinators,” the agency said in a statement to CNN. “EPA is also engaged in national and international efforts to address the potential impact of pesticides on pollinators.”

Thursday’s studies will be part of that review, the EPA said.

Attempts to contact the manufacturers of the two pesticides used in Thursday’s studies - Bayer’s imidacloprid in the British research and Syngenta’s thiamethoxam in the French paper - were unsuccessful Thursday.

#2434

From: Leslie MacDill <lazlom@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:14 am
Subject: Re: Check out Studies link pesticides to plunging bee populations � Light Years -

lazlom@...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/03/29/149614689/studies-show-why-insecticides-are-bad-news-for-bees

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:07 PM, <jbhawk1@...> wrote:

�

Studies link pesticides to plunging bee populations � Light Years - CNN.com Blogs

�

Studies link pesticides to plunging bee populations

A widely used family of pesticides may cause bees to lose their homing instincts and hinder the survival of their colonies, European researchers reported Thursday, suggesting that governments should re-examine their use.

A French study used tiny radiotransmitters to track honeybees as they left and returned to their hives and found that many of them failed to return after being exposed to non-lethal amounts of one pesticide.

British researchers, meanwhile, found that bumblebee colonies exposed to common levels of another pesticide from the same family grew more slowly and produced nearly 85% fewer queens than non-exposed colonies, "which clearly could have very strong implications for bumblebee populations in the wild," co-author Dave Goulson said Thursday in Paris.
"I would suggest that there is a need to urgently re-evaluate the use of these pesticides on flowering crops," said Goulson, a biology professor at the University of Stirling in Scotland.

The studies released Thursday are the latest to point to neonicotinoid insecticides, which are often used to treat seeds for cereals and some flowering crops like corn, as a factor in plunging bee populations. The chemicals mimic the effect of the tobacco ingredient nicotine, which is used as a natural insecticide, and pose less risk to humans and other mammals.

Both papers are being published in this week's edition of the peer-reviewed journal Science.

The research is an attempt to understand the phenomenon known as colony collapse disorder, in which beehives fail to survive. Bees pollinate about a third of U.S. food crops, so the sharp die-offs that beekeepers began to report in 2006 pose a high risk to farmers, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Mikael Henry, a researcher at France's National Institute for Agricultural Research, said honeybees exposed to a non-lethal amount of the pesticide thiamethoxam "had a probability to disappear away from their nests in much greater proportions than non-intoxicated honeybees."

"Honeybees intoxicated with small doses will just get lost and are not able to find their way back home," Henry said. When he and his colleagues used a mathematical model to project the loss rates, they found that colonies would undergo "a marked decline within several weeks," he said.

That leaves the hives vulnerable to collapsing "if there are other stresses in the environment, such as parasites or climate changes or a loss of natural food resources," Henry said.

Thursday�s papers mark the third time research has tied bee deaths to neonicotinoids in the past month. An Italian study published in the American Chemical Society�s journal Environmental Science and Technology suggested that particles thrown off by seed drilling machines can expose bees to high levels of neonicotinoids, while a study led by Indiana�s Purdue University found the insecticides in pollen collected by bees from corn and other plants.

Regulators in France, Germany, Italy and Slovenia have imposed tighter rules on the neonicotinoids in recent years. The USDA and the Environmental Protection Agency say chemical pesticides are one of several possible suspects behind colony collapse disorder, but the EPA says it is in the process of re-evaluating all neonicotinoids.

�We believe that developing revised risk assessment methods will improve our understanding and strengthen the scientific and regulatory process to protect honeybees and other pollinators,� the agency said in a statement to CNN. �EPA is also engaged in national and international efforts to address the potential impact of pesticides on pollinators.�

Thursday�s studies will be part of that review, the EPA said.

Attempts to contact the manufacturers of the two pesticides used in Thursday�s studies - Bayer�s imidacloprid in the British research and Syngenta�s thiamethoxam in the French paper - were unsuccessful Thursday.

--
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

#2435

From: jbhawk1@...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:53 am
Subject: Check out BBC News - Pesticides hit queen bee numbers

BBC News - Pesticides hit queen bee numbers

29 March 2012 Last updated at 15:12 ET

Pesticides hit queen bee numbers

By Richard Black Environment correspondent, BBC News

Pesticides are not the whole problem, but some think they could be a significant one

Some of the world's most commonly used pesticides are killing bees by damaging their ability to navigate and reducing numbers of queens, research suggests.

Scientific groups in the UK and France studied the effects of neonicotinoids, which are used in more than 100 nations on farm crops and in gardens.

The UK team found the pesticides caused an 85% drop in queen production.

Writing in the journal Science, the groups note that bee declines in many countries are reducing crop yields.

In the UK alone, pollination is calculated to be worth about �430m to the national economy.

And the US is among countries where a succession of local populations has crashed, a syndrome known as Colony Collapse Disorder.

Many causes have been suggested, including diseases, parasites, reduction in the range of flowers growing wild in the countryside, pesticides, or a combination of them all.

The neonicotinoids investigated in the two Science papers are used on crops such as cereals, oilseed rape and sunflowers.

Often the chemical is applied to seeds before planting. As the plant grows, the pesticide is contained in every part of it, deterring insect pests such as aphids.

But it also enters the pollen and nectar, which is how it can affect bees.

Dave Goulson from the UK's University of Stirling and colleagues studied the impact of the neonicotinoid imidacloprid on bumblebees.

They let bees from some colonies feed on pollen and sugar water containing levels of imidacloprid typically found in the wild, while others received a natural diet.

Then they placed the colonies out in the field.

'Severely compromised'

After six weeks, colonies exposed to the pesticide were lighter than the others, suggesting that workers had brought back less food to the hive.

But the most dramatic effect was on queen production. The naturally-fed hives produced around 14 queens each - those exposed to the pesticide, just two.

Pollination is calculated to be worth about �430m to the UK economy

"I wouldn't say this proves neonicotinoids are the sole cause of the problems bees face," said Dr Goulson, "but it does suggest they're likely to be one of the causes, and possibly a significant one.

"The use of these pesticides is so widespread that most bee colonies in areas of arable farming are likely to be exposed to them, so there is potential for them to be playing a significant role in suppression of bee populations on a pretty staggering scale."

The French research group investigated the impact of a different neonicotinoid, thiamethoxam, on the number of bees able to make it back to the colony after release.

Using tiny tags attached to the bees' backs, they showed that significantly fewer insects came back if they had previously been exposed to levels of thiamethoxam that they might encounter on farms.

Calculations showed the impairment was bad enough that the capacity of colonies survive could be severely compromised.

"What we found is that actually if colonies are exposed to pesticides, the population might decline to a point that would put them at risk of collapse due to other stressors," said lead scientist Mickael Henry from the French National Insitute for Agricultural Research (Inra) in Avignon.

Dr Henry told BBC News that it was time for authorities to re-design the safety tests that pesticides have to pass.

"To date, the tests mostly require that the doses found in nature do not kill bees," he said.

"But those authorisation processes ignore possible consequences for the behaviour of bees, and we hope the people in charge will be more careful."

Worldwide business

Neonicotinoids are a multi-billion dollar business worldwide. Even though some countries have banned them partially, a complete global prohibition, as some environmental groups advocate, might be impossible.

May Berenbaum, head of entomology at the University of Illinois and one of the leading US experts on CCD, said the chemicals should be used more carefully.

"There is no question that neonicotinoids are being used recklessly, for want of a better word," she said.

"Fifty years of experience should have taught us that overuse of a single class of compounds is an inherently unsustainable practice, and that pre-treating seeds when pest problems might not even be present is collossally unwise.

"But neonicotinoids could be banned everywhere in the world, and honeybees would still have problems with pathogens, parasites, habitat degradation and overuse of just about every other class of chemical pesticide."

At EU level, the Agriculture and Rural Development Committee has asked the European Commission to increase research and produce an action plan to conserve bees.

"When the action plan is produced, we are ready to give member states a deadline to use or not use a specific pesticide - until then it is up to individual states," said Paolo de Castro MEP, the committee's chairman.

In the UK context, Dr Goulson added, it would certainly be worth re-considering neonicotinoid use in gardens.

"Personally I would ban insecticides completely in gardens," he said.

"There are very few serious insect pests in Britain as far as gardening's concerned, it's too cold; and if roses have a few aphids on, then tough, it's not a big deal."

His research team now plans to expand their study to other bee species, while Dr Henry's group will try to discover exactly how thiamethoxam does its damage.

#2436

From: mr.blisster@...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:52 pm
Subject: moving a hive

brookeb70

I am looking to move one of my hives this week end. is there a "better" time of day to seal them up and move them?

#2437

From: "Capt GB Tony Hogg" <Capthogg@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: moving a hive

th32344

How long will it take to move then. For a short move ( 1 hour or less) I smoke them down, load them and go before good light and before bees are flying. For a longer move I would use a top screen to make sure they do not get to hot. Regardless you want to do it before field bees fly

From: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mr.blisster@...
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:52 AM
To: ApalacheeBee
Subject: [ApalacheeBee] moving a hive

I am looking to move one of my hives this week end. is there a "better" time of day to seal them up and move them?

#2438

From: David Hall <cssdrh@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:24 pm
Subject: RE: moving a hive

cssdrh

The key to moving bees is to remember what bees do

1) they do not fly at night.

so, when you are ready to move the bees, go out at last light or before morning and make sure the bees do not get out.

If your hive is not stapled together, you will need straps to hold it together to move. Otherwise, if the hive moves apart, bees can get out.

Bees can over heat. If you have a screen bottom board that may provide some�ventilation.�

2nd. Moving hives normally means moving them further than 1-2 miles away. Any shorter distances, and the field bees may return to the other location.

Most people who move bees will do it during the night, and get the hive to the new location at dawn.�

Remember that the bees will not be happy with all the motions. so when you open the hive when you get to the location, they may come streaming out.

best of luck

David Hall

#2439

From: Mike S <mws1112004@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Check out BBC News - Pesticides hit queen bee numbers

mws1112004

>> Pesticides hit queen bee numbers

>> Some of the world's most commonly used pesticides are killing bees by damaging their ability to navigate and reducing numbers of queens, research suggests.

>> The UK team found the pesticides caused an 85% drop in queen production.

Good, sensational news .....
NOTE on this British news report. The reporter used the generic term "bees" which is inclusive of many different varieties of bees. Spedifically, the paper(s) he was drawing his material from dealt with bumble bees and not honey bees. This is not to say the same affects might apply to honey bees as well. It's just that this reporter has so slanted his report so that the general public assumes he is referring to honey bees which are in the news quite frequently. This sells the story which sells the newspaper which buys his story, and more stories in the future. Economics.

Mike in LA

#2440

From: "whites25@..." <white.sara33@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:03 pm
Subject: update to "bees and equipment" ad...

whites25...

We have decided to lower the price for all bees and equipment to $1000.  We
realize we cannot recover what we put into those girls.  Please let me know if
you are interested. 850-933-5326  The bee jackets are adult mediums and so are
the gloves.  They fit an average size adult.  This is really a great deal for
all that we are selling.  Here is the list again.  Thanks!
Sara

$1000 for the following:  (Everything is for 10-frame)

3 colonies of bees (one will need to split soon)
6 deep super boxes
4 medium super boxes (honey supers)
6 screen bottom boards
6 tops with holes for top feeder jars (pint jars)
3 metal queen excluders
30 Deep frames with plastic coated foundation
6 Medium frames with plastic coated foundation
1 4 x 10 smoker with finger shield
4 hive tools
1 bee brush
2 pairs of frame holders that hang on the side of the brood boxes
2 veils (that go over a hat or helmet, not included)
2 bee jackets with hooded veils
2 pairs of leather bee gloves
1 honey bucket with honey gate and lid
1  fine filter for honey bucket
1 cappings scraper
1 serrated uncapping knife
6 Boxes of honey jars/lids (12 ea. box), 9 oz., each one holds 12 oz
       net weight of honey
4 Packages of Apilife Var
1 bottle of beetle trap oil
1 fume board and 1 bottle of Bee Quick spray

850-933-5326

#2441

From: "Heather" <hagamper@...>
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:46 pm
Subject: nuc colonies

heathergamper

Josh ray has four 5 frame nucs for sale
call him if interested 510-0401

#2442

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: nuc colonies

We'll get right on that...STAT Dr. Gamper!!!

On Mar 31, 2012 2:46 PM, "Heather" <hagamper@...> wrote:

�

Josh ray has four 5 frame nucs for sale
call him if interested 510-0401

#2443

From: Robert Jackson <jacksonapiaries@...>
Date: Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:32 am
Subject: Re: Honey

jacksonapiaries

Jane,

I have you on my list for 2 nuc's. They are ready. You can pick up late tomorrow afternoon if it works into your schedule.

bob

From: Jack and Jayne Small <small77@...>
To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: [ApalacheeBee] Honey

Hey Bob:

Nice to hear from you. I need two nucs this spring. Can you add me to the list.

Jayne Small

From: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jackson Apiaries LLC
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:57 PM
To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ApalacheeBee] Honey

I have 5 gallon buckets of Wildflower honey for sale. $130.00 per bucket. Bob Jackson 850-442-4810

Reply | Messages in this Topic (11)

#2444

From: "George1.Armet" <jondoe999@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 12:13 am
Subject: Mated queen

george1.armet

I am looking for a mated queen in Tallahassee, if anyone can help me at the
moment.
Thanks,
George

#2445

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 12:22 pm
Subject: Fwd: Kelley Newsletter - April 2012

Hey all--I find this newsletter to be the best one out there--I learn something every month. Enjoy! Good topics for us to talk about too!

Lisa

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Date: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM
Subject: Kelley Newsletter - April 2012
To: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>

Hello Customers and Bee Lovers!

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�As always, we�welcome your business, your feedback, and bee-related questions, and greatly appreciate your continued patronage.

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#2446

From: jbhawk1@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:05 pm
Subject: Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Government

Very interesting Australian web site.

Joe

#2447

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

This is interesting! I had seens ome info in the Kelley Newsletter and wondered if anyone had tried the salt around the beehives for controlling SHB...only thing is, bees can find it too! Here's their info...don't think I'm ready to go there--but I do like a non-chemical approach...

�

Never give the bees more room than they can safely patrol. The addition of second stories to hives when they are not ready and under attack is a sure recipe for disaster and would not follow any best

beekeeping practice in any sane world. In addition if you are using division board feeders remember this is a wonderful breeding ground for SHB in severe infestations especially when using pine straw as floats.

Some of the measures we have used to combat SHB are:

� Ground treatments - salt water and Gardstar

� Salting our bottom boards

� Keeping hives in full sunlight

� Beetle traps in and outside of the hives

Salt

While we have no empirical data for this, we are finding salt to be an effective method to help us deal with SHB. While bees are attracted to salt and I believe it to be an important element in their diet, there seems to be a lethal level and care should be used when applying it inside of active hives.

Using Salt

We get our mineralized salt from the Co Op by the 50# bag. This is the same salt you mix with cattle feed.

Solid Bottom Boards

Hives will be broken down and we will scrape and clean our solid bottom boards. We will then sprinkle salt liberally on the bottom board. Any SHB larvae leaving the hive that crawl through the salt will die. Ever put salt on a slug? Same principle, as the salt desiccates the larvae.

SHB Dead-outs

We scrape any slime off the bottom boards and apply salt to dry out the residue, both on empty box walls and bottom boards. We will then tip these on their sides to let them dry further before storing or reusing.

As a Ground Treatment

Using 25-gallon sprayers, we will treat the ground around our hives with a salt water solution. This will work in a twofold manor. One is to kill any pupating SHB larvae in the ground and also to help control weed growth. Remember that salt is a corrosive and you will need to clean anything metal that comes in contact with the salt water solution by thoroughly rinsing with clean water. Avoid getting any salt or salt water on your brood frames as this may be lethal. Rain will diminish the salt waters effectiveness and you may need to reapply.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, <jbhawk1@...> wrote:

�

Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Government

�

Very interesting Australian web site.

Joe

Lisa

�

For bee friends--Latitude 30 degrees

�

Help to support local animal rescue and rehab organizations!

�

BIRDLAND...Parrots For Life

�

Florida Wild Mammal Association

�

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

#2448

From: Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 6:59 pm
Subject: RE: Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

tracie751

Interesting about the salt treatment. I recently had a pretty severe problem with fire ant mounds - some huge ones right in front of my hives. I mixed up soapy water in a bucket and drenched the ground with it several times. Also sprinkled loads of cinnamon on top of the ant mounds. I'd tried cinnamon before and it seemed to work on the ants but also killed bees that came into contact with it too, so I covered the whole soapy, cinnamony mess with black roofing paper so the bees couldn't get into it. The next day - no more ants. Jeff Pippin once told me to soak the ground with soapy water for SHB too. Maybe covering the ground where you applied salt water would be a good remedy for keeping the bees off of it.

To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com

From: featherhead58@...
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:23:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [ApalacheeBee] Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

Never give the bees more room than they can safely patrol. The addition of second stories to hives when they are not ready and under attack is a sure recipe for disaster and would not follow any best

Some of the measures we have used to combat SHB are:

� Ground treatments - salt water and Gardstar
� Salting our bottom boards
� Keeping hives in full sunlight
� Beetle traps in and outside of the hives

Salt

Using Salt

We get our mineralized salt from the Co Op by the 50# bag. This is the same salt you mix with cattle feed.

Solid Bottom Boards

SHB Dead-outs

As a Ground Treatment
Using 25-gallon sprayers, we will treat the ground around our hives with a salt water solution. This will work in a twofold manor. One is to kill any pupating SHB larvae in the ground and also to help control weed growth. Remember that salt is a corrosive and you will need to clean anything metal that comes in contact with the salt water solution by thoroughly rinsing with clean water. Avoid getting any salt or salt water on your brood frames as this may be lethal. Rain will diminish the salt waters effectiveness and you may need to reapply.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, <jbhawk1@...> wrote:

Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Government

Very interesting Australian web site.

Joe

Lisa

For bee friends--Latitude 30 degrees

Help to support local animal rescue and rehab organizations!

BIRDLAND...Parrots For Life

Florida Wild Mammal Association

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

#2449

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

Oh good idea Tracie--salt and roofing paper...hhhmmm--I can watch the beetles flying around every evening...ugh!! I have the bottomw tray traps and beetle blasters--and I clean it out weekly. UGH--I fear it will be a long, hot summer...it will prbably only rain at any ABA events!

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...> wrote:

�

Interesting about the salt treatment. �I recently had a pretty severe problem with fire ant mounds - some huge ones right in front of my hives. �I mixed up soapy water in a bucket and drenched the ground with it several times. �Also sprinkled loads of cinnamon on top of the ant mounds. �I'd tried cinnamon before and it seemed to work on the ants but also killed bees that came into contact with it too, so I covered the whole soapy, cinnamony mess with black roofing paper so the bees couldn't get into it. �The next day - no more ants. �Jeff Pippin once told me to soak the ground with soapy water for SHB too. �Maybe covering the ground where you applied salt water would be a good remedy for keeping the bees off of it. �

To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
From: featherhead58@...
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:23:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [ApalacheeBee] Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

�

This is interesting! I had seens ome info in the Kelley Newsletter and wondered if anyone had tried the salt around the beehives for controlling SHB...only thing is, bees can find it too! Here's their info...don't think I'm ready to go there--but I do like a non-chemical approach...

�

Never give the bees more room than they can safely patrol. The addition of second stories to hives when they are not ready and under attack is a sure recipe for disaster and would not follow any best
beekeeping practice in any sane world. In addition if you are using division board feeders remember this is a wonderful breeding ground for SHB in severe infestations especially when using pine straw as floats.
Some of the measures we have used to combat SHB are:
� Ground treatments - salt water and Gardstar
� Salting our bottom boards
� Keeping hives in full sunlight
� Beetle traps in and outside of the hives

Salt

While we have no empirical data for this, we are finding salt to be an effective method to help us deal with SHB. While bees are attracted to salt and I believe it to be an important element in their diet, there seems to be a lethal level and care should be used when applying it inside of active hives.

Using Salt

We get our mineralized salt from the Co Op by the 50# bag. This is the same salt you mix with cattle feed.

Solid Bottom Boards

Hives will be broken down and we will scrape and clean our solid bottom boards. We will then sprinkle salt liberally on the bottom board. Any SHB larvae leaving the hive that crawl through the salt will die. Ever put salt on a slug? Same principle, as the salt desiccates the larvae.

SHB Dead-outs

We scrape any slime off the bottom boards and apply salt to dry out the residue, both on empty box walls and bottom boards. We will then tip these on their sides to let them dry further before storing or reusing.

As a Ground Treatment
Using 25-gallon sprayers, we will treat the ground around our hives with a salt water solution. This will work in a twofold manor. One is to kill any pupating SHB larvae in the ground and also to help control weed growth. Remember that salt is a corrosive and you will need to clean anything metal that comes in contact with the salt water solution by thoroughly rinsing with clean water. Avoid getting any salt or salt water on your brood frames as this may be lethal. Rain will diminish the salt waters effectiveness and you may need to reapply.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, <jbhawk1@...> wrote:

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Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Government

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Very interesting Australian web site.

Joe

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Lisa

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"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)
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She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

Lisa

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For bee friends--Latitude 30 degrees

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Help to support local animal rescue and rehab organizations!

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BIRDLAND...Parrots For Life

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by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)

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She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

#2450

From: Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:20 pm
Subject: RE: Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

tracie751

Haha! Or at the downtown market. Maybe we'll have another tornado warning day!

To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
From: featherhead58@...
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:09:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [ApalacheeBee] Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...> wrote:

Interesting about the salt treatment. I recently had a pretty severe problem with fire ant mounds - some huge ones right in front of my hives. I mixed up soapy water in a bucket and drenched the ground with it several times. Also sprinkled loads of cinnamon on top of the ant mounds. I'd tried cinnamon before and it seemed to work on the ants but also killed bees that came into contact with it too, so I covered the whole soapy, cinnamony mess with black roofing paper so the bees couldn't get into it. The next day - no more ants. Jeff Pippin once told me to soak the ground with soapy water for SHB too. Maybe covering the ground where you applied salt water would be a good remedy for keeping the bees off of it.

To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
From: featherhead58@...
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:23:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [ApalacheeBee] Check out Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Gov

This is interesting! I had seens ome info in the Kelley Newsletter and wondered if anyone had tried the salt around the beehives for controlling SHB...only thing is, bees can find it too! Here's their info...don't think I'm ready to go there--but I do like a non-chemical approach...

Never give the bees more room than they can safely patrol. The addition of second stories to hives when they are not ready and under attack is a sure recipe for disaster and would not follow any best
beekeeping practice in any sane world. In addition if you are using division board feeders remember this is a wonderful breeding ground for SHB in severe infestations especially when using pine straw as floats.
Some of the measures we have used to combat SHB are:
� Ground treatments - salt water and Gardstar
� Salting our bottom boards
� Keeping hives in full sunlight
� Beetle traps in and outside of the hives

Salt

While we have no empirical data for this, we are finding salt to be an effective method to help us deal with SHB. While bees are attracted to salt and I believe it to be an important element in their diet, there seems to be a lethal level and care should be used when applying it inside of active hives.

Using Salt

We get our mineralized salt from the Co Op by the 50# bag. This is the same salt you mix with cattle feed.

Solid Bottom Boards

Hives will be broken down and we will scrape and clean our solid bottom boards. We will then sprinkle salt liberally on the bottom board. Any SHB larvae leaving the hive that crawl through the salt will die. Ever put salt on a slug? Same principle, as the salt desiccates the larvae.

SHB Dead-outs

We scrape any slime off the bottom boards and apply salt to dry out the residue, both on empty box walls and bottom boards. We will then tip these on their sides to let them dry further before storing or reusing.

As a Ground Treatment
Using 25-gallon sprayers, we will treat the ground around our hives with a salt water solution. This will work in a twofold manor. One is to kill any pupating SHB larvae in the ground and also to help control weed growth. Remember that salt is a corrosive and you will need to clean anything metal that comes in contact with the salt water solution by thoroughly rinsing with clean water. Avoid getting any salt or salt water on your brood frames as this may be lethal. Rain will diminish the salt waters effectiveness and you may need to reapply.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, <jbhawk1@...> wrote:

Small hive beetle | Primary industries & fisheries | Queensland Government

Very interesting Australian web site.

Joe

--

Lisa

For bee friends--Latitude 30 degrees

Help to support local animal rescue and rehab organizations!

BIRDLAND...Parrots For Life

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BIRDLAND_Parrots/

Florida Wild Mammal Association

www.WakullaWildlife.org

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

Lisa

For bee friends--Latitude 30 degrees

Help to support local animal rescue and rehab organizations!

BIRDLAND...Parrots For Life

Florida Wild Mammal Association

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

#2451

From: "stacifarrah" <stacifarrah@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2012 1:28 am
Subject: queen cells

stacifarrah

I recently added some of the queen cells from tony and was wondering how long I
should give them before checking on them. I installed the queen cells on the
28th (last wednesday) and when should I be able to see eggs? 2-3 weeks?
Jeff

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#2452

From: Bob L <bbb32311@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2012 1:47 am
Subject: Re: queen cells

bbb32311

At least two to 3 week from when the cell was added, just to be sure

Bob L

From: stacifarrah <stacifarrah@...>
To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 9:28 PM
Subject: [ApalacheeBee] queen cells

I recently added some of the queen cells from tony and was wondering how long I should give them before checking on them. I installed the queen cells on the 28th (last wednesday) and when should I be able to see eggs? 2-3 weeks?
Jeff

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#2453

From: Shawn Moore <smoore@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2012 1:20 pm
Subject: Animal rights groups ask Gov to veto HB 1197

svarogteuse

HB 1197 is the recent legislation passed (but not yet signed) that would stop
local governments from restricting beekeeping. Senator Bogdanoff got an
amendment attached to it which would unban animal dyeing. See the article and
bill below. Amendment thats causing the problem is the last one on the
amendments page.



http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/03/peta-asks-scott-to-keep-prohibition-on-pas\
tel-peeps-veto-pink-bunnies-bill/comment-page-1/

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2012/1197

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#2454

From: jbhawk1@...
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2012 5:06 pm
Subject: Check out Chapter 6 - Plant protection practices

Chapter 6 - Plant protection practices

See the links for indigenous (India) beekeeping practices and use of wood ash on crops.

Has anyone on this list used wood ash as an insecticide outside the hive? Good idea or bad? Does it reduce the small hive beetle population? I thought I would use it in heavy application as a ground drench.

Joe

#2455

From: Charles Futch <fhs1959@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2012 9:51 pm
Subject: Plant List

atilladcat

Dear Friends,
As some of you know, Susan and I have been working hard to turn our back
yard horse pasture back into Florida.  A list of the plant species have
recruited here or have been installed by us is at:
http://www.ournaturepark.net/list-of-flora.html

Also, Native Nurseries is sponsoring a tour of our yard on 14 April.
Details for signing up for this event are at:
http://www.nativenurseries.com/documents/bird_center.pdf

Regards,
Chas.

#2456

From: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:25 pm
Subject: Apalachee Beekeepers , 4/10/2012, 6:30 pm

ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com

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#2457

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
Date: Thu Apr 5, 2012 10:30 pm
Subject: Re: Apalachee Beekeepers , 4/10/2012, 6:30 pm

Open hives @ 5:30! Bring a veil..

On Apr 5, 2012 6:25 PM, <ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

#2458

From: Bob L <bbb32311@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2012 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Open Hives or maybe not??? Apalachee Beekeepers , 4/10/2012, 6:30 pm

bbb32311

The ABA bees are currently at my house. I moved them there after our Tues 03/27 inspection. Stan Rosenthal, the County Forrester asked for them to be moved so they could do a controlled burn of the area around the apiary on Thurs 03/29. As of Monday 04/02 the burn had not happened due to lack of suitable weather. With the rain this week Its doubtful it they have been able to do it. Maybe today will be the day? I'll move the bees back as soon as the burn is over but it may not be before the Tues 04/10 open hive session/meeting.

I'll go by the Ext office this weekend and give you a status update then. If burn has not occurred, we'll need to cancel the inspection.

Thx.

Bob L

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ApalacheeBee] Apalachee Beekeepers , 4/10/2012, 6:30 pm

Open hives @ 5:30! Bring a veil..

On Apr 5, 2012 6:25 PM, <ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

#2459

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2012 11:37 am
Subject: Re: Open Hives or maybe not??? Apalachee Beekeepers , 4/10/2012, 6:30 pm

Thanks Bob--please let us know if you need help! Lisa

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Bob L <bbb32311@...> wrote:

�

The ABA bees are currently at my house. I moved them there after our Tues 03/27 inspection. Stan Rosenthal, the County Forrester asked for them to be moved so they could do a controlled burn of the area around the apiary on Thurs 03/29. As of Monday 04/02 the burn had not happened due to lack of suitable weather. With the rain this week Its doubtful it they have been able to do it. Maybe today will be the day? I'll move the bees back as soon as the burn is over but it may not be before the Tues 04/10 open hive session/meeting.

I'll�go by the Ext office this weekend�and give you a status update then. If burn has not occurred, we'll need to cancel the inspection.

Thx.

Bob L

From: "featherhead58@..." <featherhead58@...>
To: ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ApalacheeBee] Apalachee Beekeepers , 4/10/2012, 6:30 pm

Open hives @ 5:30! Bring a veil..

On Apr 5, 2012 6:25 PM, <ApalacheeBee@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Lisa

�

For bee friends--Latitude 30 degrees

�

Help to support local animal rescue and rehab organizations!

�

BIRDLAND...Parrots For Life

�

Florida Wild Mammal Association

�

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated" ~Gandhi (1869-1948)

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite
what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that
keeps a parrot ~ Mark Twain

#2460

From: "stacifarrah" <stacifarrah@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:25 pm
Subject: New Nucs

stacifarrah

I am getting my nucs this weekend and I was wondering how long I should leave
them alone before checking them for the first time??
two week?? or do the normal 1week check time frame
Jeff

#2461

From: David Hall <cssdrh@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2012 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: New Nucs

cssdrh

It depends on what you are doing.

I assume you are putting the 5 frames into either a 10 or 8 frame box.

Once you move the bees to the new location, they will need time to get settled.

Wait a minimum of one day.

I have seen a 5 fame nuc completely fill a 10 frame in one week.

So, be prepared.

Look in one week to see how the colony is doing.

If there are tons of egss, and new larva, then be ready to place a super on them.

Otherwise give them another week.

Be prepared to find the colony ready to work on the super, and also be ready to possibly feed them. They will be taking the nectar the get and using that to create new wax for the new frames.

We are still in the honey flow.

David Hall

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:25 PM, stacifarrah <stacifarrah@...> wrote:

�

I am getting my nucs this weekend and I was wondering how long I should leave them alone before checking them for the first time??
two week?? or do the normal 1week check time frame
Jeff

#2462

From: Charles Futch <fhs1959@...>
Date: Fri Apr 6, 2012 9:51 pm
Subject: Queens for Sale?

atilladcat

Does anyone have two for sale?
Chas.