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Re: [BAVTA] Fw: Grandfather Clause test-takers & 2010 VTNE- A.M.E.R.S VIEWPOINT

We have received many  emails from many technicians on this topic. and up until now we have  never taken a stand on either side. However I think it is important that we  do. My Name is David Watts I am the CEO of A.M.E.R.S Animal Ambulance inc. (www.animalmedics.com) We have  been around  for a little over 8 years and have provided thousands of transports  of sick and injured pets. . We currently staff 11 Nurses  of those 6 are RVT's  however  all have at least  5 years  Critical Care & or Emergency experience. I feel the grand father clause should not be  ended, however  perhaps  those who do received  their licenses via this route  should be  required to  take a test once a year (every year) and pass it  to keep their status current.  When I worked in New York as  a paramedic. We not only had  to have  CEU's  each year  but  we  could also be called (at random) in to a state testing facility to make sure we  were up to current standards. If we   failed  we  were taken off the street  on the spot and  had to wait two weeks  to come back and take the test  again. The meson I say this is due  to the fact that I have  had  RVT's come in for interviews  and  they have  failed  the placement test. some feel that because  they have  a license  they are qualified for  any job in Veterinary medicine. The grandfather clause allows seasoned  nurses  to join the ranks. I am by no means  saying just because a person has  been in the field  for  x number of years  they should automatically be allowed to get a license. but those  who do take the test and pass should be licensed,  also there are   many who cannot afford to go to a formal program (i went to western and  it cost me $ 35,000.00) only to  get offered  15 per hour!!! at  a vet  facility once  I completed  the program)  Therefore i think that the only way to get  quality nurses. in the field is to continue  the grand father clause. the testing and CEU's  will make  sure  they are up to current standards. - David Watts 
On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Sarah Okumura wrote:

I thought you all would be interested to read this posting from the Association of Veterinary Technician Educators ListServe.
 
Sarah Okumura

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Brandy <animlgrl@COX.NET>
To: AVTE@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:42:47 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather Clause test-takers & 2010 VTNE

Carole-

I completely understand everything that you said, and as of today, there is no end in sight for our grandfather clause (other than 2010, now).  

A few years ago, the board decided (with no input from technicians, our state technician or veterinary association) that our state exam, which was 100 questions and finishable in 15 minutes due to its ease, was duplicating too many of the VTNE questions.  They decided to change it, and make a whole new test....great!...that focused more on Arizona veterinary issues, medicine, and statutes.  However, they decided to make the exam only 50 questions because they couldn't see how they would be able to come up with 200 questions to rotate through for a 100 question test.  I was floored (I was at this particular board meeting).  I MYSELF could have written 50 of them.  Knowing this, I'd be surprised if our board (though not completely flabbergasted) decided to write their own credentialing exam.    We are lucky in that the state VMA has some younger board members coming through the ranks, and a few work with the examining board as well- hopefully they will be able to share the great benefits of having educated credentialed technicians, not just OTJ ones.
Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I took advantage of the grandfather clause here 5 years ago, and became licensed (on my first try, no less).  In order to protect my future in this CAREER (not a job to me), I decided to get the education, and am enrolled in Purdue's VTDLP and love it.  I also want to prove to the doubters out there that it is do-able, and affordable.  I am lucky in that my boss doesn't think I'm looney (why get the education, you already have a job here and a license) and is helping to pay for it.  It may take me 10 years, but I'm insuring my future.  Some day I would love to teach, and I know I can't do that without the education.  So while I am doing it backwards, I see the reason behind why all the gradfather clauses need to go bye-bye, and am one of the number one supporters.

Brandy, CVT
Phoenix, AZ
Immediate Past President, VHCTAZ



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I thought you all would be interested to read this posting from the Association of Veterinary Technician Educators ListServe. Sarah Okumura ... From: Brandy...
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We have received many emails from many technicians on this topic. and up until now we have never taken a stand on either side. However I think it is...
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While education is indeed expensive, Western does not charge $35,000 tuition for an A.S. in Veterinary Technology. Just want to keep the record straight! Laura...
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