I thought I would take this time to thank everyone who has joined the Beyond Basic Equine Clicker Training list. This list is now 2 weeks old and has had over...
... happier with the new cue >but he is backing up faster then before. Hey Neil, This is an interesting thought but I'm thinking that for the most accurate ...
Hi Kim, ... Well this is an interesting thought also <g> but of course it would not be, IMO, a very accurate indicator of anything either. First Neil is now...
... I think it's true that one can't prove much of anything because there's always conflicting evidence. But we can still collect data and analyze it, and...
Yes, this would be easy to check. If we for instance could split into two groups. One group would train a behaviour with pressure and release first and then...
... I think once Bob teaches us how to set up a good experiment, and how to collect good data, this would be a good project for us to try. Kris -- Kris...
Hi there, I think those would be interesting experiments too, but I agree that we need to learn to collect data first. Otherwise there won't be any consistency...
Ilse: I think this might work if we all had the exact same robot to work with and we all had the exact same skill but we don't. As Sharon so correctly pointed...
... Thusly making ... I agree Sharon. I also think it would be a case where more information could be gained by "measuring" the trainer rather than the horse,...
I think once Bob teaches us how to set up a good experiment, and how to collect good data, this would be a good project for us to try. Kris But Kris, I think...
... Exactly. And I don't think the skill level of the horse or trainer matters, since all we'd doing is collecting data. In fact, the last thing we'd want to...
... They won't prove anything, but they can help teach us how to design experiments, and how to collect and interpret data. Once we know how to do that, then...
Yes, of course Kim, But that will be the case for anything we decide to do. Does that mean we shouldn't do it? I don't think so. Does it snow where you are as...
I'd be hard put to do conventional horse stuff without P & R because I usually have to work on Nicer Grass than my horses live on . If I waited for CT results...
Melissa , I do see where you are coming from . and do appreciate your efforts to get this focus on something definite rather than the vague . However , I'm...
... Ummmm... not exactly. Sure there was inspiration and there was probably a lot of non-scientific brainstorming in the beginning. But at some point, someone...
... It's true that we need to find ways to restrict resources if we're going to be able to use those resources to train with +R. Barriers such as muzzles,...
R- is a fact of life. There will be behaviors and situation where we cannot remove 100% of the R- or pressure. There will be times where we don't *want* to...
... I give a lot of free treats too, simply because most of my horses are cross over horses and need to learn that good things can happen when humans are...
... I've always given a fair number of free treats, BUT when my horses came home from that boarding barn this summer, I very intentionally did just what you're...
Anecdotal evidence is definitely important -- I don't want my past posts to make it seem that I don't think so. In dogs, the laboratory evidence says that dogs...
... done, and it can isolate the rules for when the dogs ... something that ... that anyone ... Melissa, Do you consider "Don't Shoot The Dog" anecdotal? I...
No, I don't consider DSTD anecdotal... it's a lay-person-friendly (though not always 100% accurate with scientific definitions) description of well-documented...
Hi Melissa, I'll admit I'm unlikely to be the one doing experiments and recording data. Not my style! :-) However, I am enjoying and expect to continue to...
... I agree -- and I wouldn't tell someone that all they had to do was follow the steps and it would work guaranteed. There is still TREMENDOUS value to having...
Hi, I just dropped an e-mail to Bob to see if he is back from his trip yet. Hopefully, he'll be back soon, and we can get back to the basics of data ...
Hey, another thing I was thinking I that I'd love to hear your training reports. Please don't be intimidated by all my scientific stuff. Yes, I'm interested in...
... watching and ... disputes that. I think many ethologists now recognise and "ethic" of scientific bias that is generated when studying animals in an...
... <melissa@c...> wrote: So if one animal had to progress by inches and another could ... goals ... all the ... skip 15 ... have ... We actually already have...
So that everybody is on the same page (including me) I wanted to explore Positive and negative reinforcement and how they fit into behaviors we ask of our...
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