I know its a cue either adding something or taking something away but what i was getting at is sometimes taking something away may be negative and adding...
Beyond Basics: Equine Clicker TrainingLovely post Maivs. May I add that we humans can be very stupid creatures at times. And so, we go thru the process of...
... Diana. But I think what Barbara is saying is that this is not simply a "behavior" - seeking a contact is a RESULT, not just of what the horse understands...
... really balanced canter (she's working the whole time with her feet really under herself in order to maintain agility) where at every step your horse asks...
New topic: Schedules of Reinforcement – Continuous versus Variable For this topic, we would like list members to consider and compare two different views on...
... there are no technical errors in the training, if the animal begins to make deliberate choices to change or not perform a shaped and reinforced behavior,...
A very good questions Jord-Ann and one that there is clearly no wrong answer. Both authors are extremely respected behaviorist so it is difficult to argue...
I reinforce behavior one to one (each behavior is reinforced each time) however,in reality, the R+ is variable because I am human and I am not precise. ...
I find the discussion about the reinforcement schedules (RS) very interesting. I want to share my experiences with you, maybe it can help others. The nice...
Can we pick an exercise and apply the information to it? Something like transitions or shoulder in or ten meter circles......anything to more clearly define...
... more prone to manipulating a training session, substituting one behavior for another, etc. Perhaps that has nothing to do with schedules (?), but lack of...
... there are no technical errors in the training, if the animal begins to make deliberate choices to change or not perform a shaped and reinforced behavior,...
... like transitions or shoulder in or ten meter circles......anything to more clearly define when to reinforce on either schedule? Good idea, but a...
HI all, Hoping to be out of lurkdom as I am done traveling for this year! At the start of this discussion Kaycee's 'rigid expectaion of food' was mentioned and...
... The closest I can think of is reinforcing the first steps of leg yield or shoulder-in etc EVERY time, then increasing duration (number of steps with...
... I can only make a guess not seeing the whole situation. But it 'sounds like' she has been reinforcing pushiness, meaning, some folks give the R+ in order...
... Something ...... ... ........... -R changes it's complexion in the context of the mechanics of riding and can act as +R information the horse wants on a...
... Barbara wrote: I also am not sure how I can ideate what *I* think I am delivering as R+ and what the horse interprets as R+. For instance, I don't think of...
Jord Ann wrote: I believe it is, then primary reinforcers like food and safety are just a way to get your foot in the door or to express appreciation, but not...
... Not Jord-Ann but what I am hearing is (and I concur) is we use food and safety in the early training in order to open the door to a working relationship....
Brilliant Sharon, I think that is exactly what I was getting and I just needed to hear it in words that rang clearer. Thanks. It really isn't so different...
... Something fundamental is missing, the animal has no investment in the work itself, - only payment for the work, so he tries to manipulate how and when he...
... work itself, - only payment for the work, so he tries to manipulate how and when he receives that payment. I think if this is the case, you might be able...
... My experience is that most horses find 'going forward' VERY intrinsically reinforcing. Even my home-raised babies who have never known real 'fear' and do...
... for a boss ... was a ... Right, we are still getting paid, but the payment is something we maybe can identify that someone outside of us would not know or...
... and bring in some more stock. Since domestic horses have been bred also, for affinity with humans, and to some extent, specific jobs, many are born with...
... intrinsically reinforcing. << (in the future..) I would really love to explore this thought, not necessarily the forward, but the 'intrinsically...
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