I'm sure it does.....but I still think that the focus is wrong. I don't like to think about how to do it wrong, just how to do it right. Academically it is...
... For me the poisoned cue is a very questionable line of thinking. I think if you are reasonable skilled trainer with consistency and good intent, the animal...
... Hey Jord-Ann, As I understand it the "Poisoned Cue" is a cue that presents a state of ambiguity/uncertainty as to the consequence that will follow...
... Hey Linda :) I guess I think it's a bit of a no-brainer that if you are inconsistent, you reap the results :) Not sure why this is being presented as...
... giving to pressure (R-) followed by a reinforcer (R+) is not ambiguous. Everyone writes as if Negative Reinforcement (R-) is a bad thing. I fail to see...
... Tam, I did not say that negative reinforcement is bad. Trust that I know it is not, and that it can be a very effective tool if used correctly. After...
Linda, Although I can see why it seemed as if I were directing my thoughts to you I was simply using your statement to direct my thoughts to Positive trainers...
... Hi Tam, Please forgive my mistake. I make such a point with clients that -R is not the same as +P. I have watched some very skilled -R trainers...and some...
I would like to open the floor to any of the 'lurkers' that have a question that was created by any of the recent subjects. Please, feel free to ask your...
Interesting that as soon as I read Carrie's and Julie's posts this came through on another list.... Kathy is a fabulous instructor. If you wish to 'use' R+...
... This might be exactly the point at which an unexperienced trainer falls into poisoned cues, or gross inconsistency, especially when it's time to begin...
... GREAT post Carrie. Generalization and discrimination are my 2 favorite facinations in all this, because they are the cognitive "pre-cursors" to learning,...
... Just to add, Neil has graciously given Tam & I the ability to "shepherd" the discussions on this list, and we are primarily interested in pushing the...
Tangentally ecouraged by the lurker invitation... I've seen the JRR presentation at Clicker Expo. I could rant, but want to avoid flaming, myself. I have no...
... Hi Andrea, And welcome to the group. I agree with you about the design and employment of the "Poison Cue" study. There are many faults in it and I was...
... This is yet another skill that must be practised. I have my students spend time doing specific exercises of observation in 3 parts. Successful observation...
I'm on my way out the door so I don't have time for details. I'll just contribute the idea that it is not the exercise or tool that might be questioned, but...
This is a fabulous contribution to the topic. Thank you so much. I learned a lot. Julie W. http://viewfrommysaddle.blogspot.com/ VISIT JP'S Giacomini's BLOG: ...
... Carrie, Something about the herd/leader/alpha model has never sat well with me. I think it's a superficial construct that certain "examples" I have...
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