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Carol, I was very interested in seeing this club make a go of it
also. Just sorry that interest was so low. Never was any
converstation on this group or by emails. Maybe the timing was off
or just to many committments by the officers to get it up and
going...

Guess we will go back the the local QH club and ride. Between that
and the CTRiding I want to do this summer that should keep me busy.
Hope all members will keep in touch as we ride most every weekend.
Still trying to work a ride in at Cuiver, hope to see you there.
Mary Hampton

--- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Carole Sharp" <cjsharp@...>
wrote:
>
> I was really sorry to see the refund check. I've sorry this assn.
wasn't able to make a go of it. I was interested, but just too far,
and I have too many other things on my plate.
> I wish you all well.
> Carole Sharp
> http://sharpsmofoxtrotters.tripod.com/
>

We ride a Cuivre quite often, so that is surely a possibility.

Carole Sharp
http://sharpsmofoxtrotters.tripod.com/





--- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Hampton" <mhampton@...>
wrote:
>
> Carol, I was very interested in seeing this club make a go of it
> also. Just sorry that interest was so low. Never was any
> converstation on this group or by emails. Maybe the timing was off
> or just to many committments by the officers to get it up and
> going...
>
> Guess we will go back the the local QH club and ride. Between that
> and the CTRiding I want to do this summer that should keep me busy.
> Hope all members will keep in touch as we ride most every weekend.
> Still trying to work a ride in at Cuiver, hope to see you there.
> Mary Hampton
>
>
>  --- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Carole Sharp" <cjsharp@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I was really sorry to see the refund check.  I've sorry this
assn.
> wasn't able to make a go of it.  I was interested, but just too
far,
> and I have too many other things on my plate.
> > I wish you all well.
> > Carole Sharp
> > http://sharpsmofoxtrotters.tripod.com/
> >
>

Carol, I was very interested in seeing this club make a go of it
also. Just sorry that interest was so low. Never was any
converstation on this group or by emails. Maybe the timing was off
or just to many committments by the officers to get it up and
going...

Guess we will go back the the local QH club and ride. Between that
and the CTRiding I want to do this summer that should keep me busy.
Hope all members will keep in touch as we ride most every weekend.
Still trying to work a ride in at Cuiver, hope to see you there.
Mary Hampton


  --- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Carole Sharp" <cjsharp@...>
wrote:
>
> I was really sorry to see the refund check.  I've sorry this assn.
wasn't able to make a go of it.  I was interested, but just too far,
and I have too many other things on my plate.
> I wish you all well.
> Carole Sharp
> http://sharpsmofoxtrotters.tripod.com/
>

Vicki does the club still get a percentage if we purchase from
Country supply? I thought I read that you had set up an account for
the club?
Mary H

Mary... I definately want to go.  Count me in.  What time?



Becky






-----Original Message-----
From: mhampton@...
To: BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: [BiStateMFTAssn] ANY ONE OFF ON FRIDAY 11-24-06

            If you are a group of us are going on a trail ride at St.Joe
State
  park in Farmington. It would be great if you could join us.
  drop me a note if you would like to join us.
  foxtrotmo@...
  Mary






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If you are a group of us are going on a trail ride at St.Joe State
park in Farmington. It would be great if you could join us.
drop me a note if you would like to join us.
foxtrotmo@...
Mary

The Humane Society Benefit is Nov. 18. It will be held at the Stlo.
Zoo. Tickets are $65.00-reservations required.     vicki

Hi Y'all. The Humane Society is planning a benefit dinner for the
rescued horses soon. Not sure when or where-they are having difficulty
lining up a facility at this short notice as many places are booked for
the Holidays. I will post info as soon as I get it. Should be a good
time for a good cause!!!!!   vicki cook

Hi all,
First of all, I must apologize to this group for my inability to
remain focused to the efforts of the Bi State MFTHBA.  My job has
turned into a nightmare, my daughter had a wedding and now a new baby
on the way in a few weeks.  I know the above are simply excuses but I
feel guilty that I lot steam as a member of the group.

Vicki Cook has me back on track.  She has been in communication with
Casey O'Brien who has offered a clinic.  I hope to have confirmation
by Friday on the English barn in Chesterfield, MO as a host location
for the clinic.  Case would like to have the clinic in November but I
do not think we have enough time to properly annouce such a clinic.

I would like to extend an offer to another gaited club to attend as
well as the general public.  Our members would be allowed to
participate at a discounted rate and there would be both
participating clinic participants as well as audits available.

My thought is to hold the clinic during the second weekend in
December.

Thoughts, please.

PS, any thoughts on the by-laws?

PSS, for all member who joined in 2006, the membership will be
continued to the end of 2007 (12/31/07), since we have not adopted
the by-laws.  Okay?

Sarah

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From: RicoOneBadDog@...

To: BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:42 AM

Subject: Re: [BiStateMFTAssn] A lesson in Ulcers

Linda,

I have some idea what you are going thru. I went thru thisa few
years back with a miniature horse I had -thank goodness it was a
mini... as I always cringed at the thought of this happening to a full
sized horse! !!$$$!!

My vet at that time couldn't figure it out or give me definate answers.
I called Dr. Stew Robson frantically trying to get help, and he
listened to the symptoms over the phone and right then started
immediate definate treatment plan that included omeprazole, and
eventually the mini was healthy and happy again. (Dr. Robson is now my
vet instead of the local vet)

It is horrible to watch them suffer from ulcer. I am happy to hear
your horse will recover fully. I know the sting of the vet bills
too... as I just got thru with another expensive drug treating my mare
for four months! But she is well and wonderful. When you love the
animal, it just take what it takes to get them well and that is that.

Best of luck,
Becky

ps.. this may make a very good thing to add into one of our future
clinics as I beleive it is a benefit to all horse owners to hear this.

-----Original Message-----
From: zorro@...
To: ichr@egroups.com; GaitedHorsesOfColor@yahoogroups.com;
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Sent: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 8:42 PM
Subject: [BiStateMFTAssn] A lesson in Ulcers

All,
 
I wanted to share a recent horrifying experience I had in hopes that
others can learn from this. I have learned more in the last week than I
ever want to again.
 
A week ago Sunday, I brought all my horses up for shoeing and worming.
We had recently changed hay sources, as my hay man hadn't been able to
deliver. The new hay wasn't the best quality, but it was put up
correctly, and wasn't weedy or moldy. My senior stallion (Lobo) had
been boycotting it, but I didn't think much of it.  So, when the shoer
was finished, I wormed everyone and groomed them.
I noticed in the next few days that Lobo wasn't finishing his grain,
but thought it was because we had a new mare in for breeding. By last
Wednesday, he wasn't eating any grain. I brushed it off as needing his
teeth floated and made an appointment for Friday. By Friday afternoon,
he had completely stopped eating
The vet took one look and said "ulcers".
I had always though ulcers were for competing show horses, and not for
breeding stallions that only trail rode. That's where the learning
curve began.
 
We immediately started him on GastroGard (omeprazole). By Sunday, he
was shivering, depressed, and didn't want to drink. By Monday, he was
in so much pain that he wouldn't allow the vet to touch him. We went
through an aggressive treatment of nasogastric tube oiling, blood
screen, tox screen, teeth floating, Vitamin B shots (appetite boost),
fibrinogen test, and injectable banamine (to control the pain) in hopes
of confirming the ulcer diagnosis, and preventing colic.  All tests
came back (within two hours) as completely normal. By the third hour he
was in shock,. and down in the stall. I thought right then and there we
were going to lose him.
I got him up, blanketed him, and got the vet there. He pulled out of
shock slowly. We upped the GastroGard dose to double (each dose is
$35/day at vet cost).
At this point, I began pulling out all the stops, and contacting
gastro specialists at Oklahoma State University and Colorado State
University (after being advised to do so by vets at Mizzou).
As advised, we began getting fresh grass to him (envision five adults
in the pouring rain for 2 hours pulling grass). This was the only thing
he would touch. With the double dose of GastroGard, warm mashes,
constant watch, and hand grazing three times a day, he began to improve.
 
So, in summary, I've put together a quick list of things I've learned
in hopes this may help others and prevent future problems.
 
1) Over 60% of all horses will experience some degree of ulcers in
their lifetime, with performance horses (showing racing, etc.), and
weaning foals comprising the highest number. Many horses will never be
diagnosed until it becomes severe.
2) Omeprazole (trade name GastroGard) is the only FDA approved drug
that will actually heal the ulcer. Meriel has the patent until 2015, so
there's no chance of a cheaper generic until then. To get complete
healing, treatment is recommended for 28 days (at $35/day).
3) Many other drugs act as "buffers" (Neigh Lox, etc.), but they only
coat the stomach, and there are typically backlashes after the drug
wears off. Some can cause diarrhea, or may slow the digestibility and
actually cause limited gut motility.
4) The only true way to diagnose an ulcer is by endoscopy (passing a
small camera into the stomach), although response to ulcer drugs is
typically a method of diagnosis.
5) Feeding techniques can cause, aggravate or prevent ulcers. High
forage (hay and grass), and lower grain concentrations help prevent
ulcers. A high grain, low forage diet, or intermittent large meals can
create ulcers. Senior feeds with a low fat content (higher fat promotes
more stomach acid creation for digestion), high fiber (complete feed)
are a good feed for post ulcer horses. Alfalfa hay also helps reduce
stomach acid due to the high calcium content.
 
We discovered that changing the hay had caused Lobo to reduce (almost
totally) his hay consumption (problem #1). Since he appeared to be
losing some weight (another ulcer symptom), we increased his grain
(problem #2). And to add insult to injury, we wormed him. Although the
wormer (ivermectin) did not cause the ulcers, it certainly aggravated
the heck out of them.
As of yesterday, he was firmly diagnosed with stage 3 ulcers (the
worst).
The good news is he should recover totally, and I have learned a huge
amount over the last few days. The bad news is the vet bill.
 
Hopefully this information will be of help to others.
 
If you have specific questions, please feel free to e mail me
privately. Please also feel free to pass this on.
 
Thanks to the vets that helped, and to Gabby Moore for urging me to
act quickly and start the blood draw.
 
Most of all..... do your homework. Go to www.yahoo.com, or any other
web browser, and type in equine ulcers. There is a wealth of
information.
 
 
Linda V.
www.zorrofarms.com

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----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah McCoin

To: BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:54 AM

Subject: Re: [BiStateMFTAssn] WHAT IS HAPPENING

Hi Mary,

I have been quietly working behind the scenes :) 

 

Actually, my job is horrible and occupying much of my time --- could be  a legal battle.

 

With regard to Bi-State, I have been working with clinicians trying to secure positive dates for clinics, working with a new facility to secure a site for a quarterly clinic (pre-arranged), and working with another organization to perhaps use as a 'sister' organization, as well as modifying new by-laws to include wording for electronic meetings (per the Irish Sport Horse of North America By-Laws).  The new by-law wording was received yesterday (and approved by the ISHNA's attorney).  We are awaiting response from the ISHNA with regard to acceptance and think these by-laws will better serve our affiliate as the ISHNA consists of members throughout the US - not simply regionally.

 

Lot of stuff going on - trying to get to Ava next week with a colt we broke out this summer --- daughter getting married (and w/ child), my Dad is very ill, ... just a lot of stuff.

 

Can't wait for the world to slow down!

 

Hope all is well at your end...

 

Sarah

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----- Original Message -----

From: lpetty65202

To: BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:52 PM

Subject: [BiStateMFTAssn] Re: Fall breeding season

-Your welcome!!
And let me know when you want to work on some changes/additions for
versatility. You seem to know how to GET ER DONE!!!
Lisa

-- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Zorro Farms" <zorro@...> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say thank you to the people that supported my efforts
in getting the fall breeding season reinstated.
>
> The season has been reinstated, and the new notice will be published
in the Journal.
>
> This was voted on and approved at last night's BOD meeting.
>
> Linda V.
> www.zorrofarms.com
>

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-Your welcome!!
And let me know when you want to work on some changes/additions for
versatility. You seem to know how to GET ER DONE!!!
Lisa

-- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Zorro Farms" <zorro@...> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to say thank you to the people that supported my efforts
in getting the fall breeding season reinstated.
>
> The season has been reinstated, and the new notice will be published
in the Journal.
>
> This was voted on and approved at last night's BOD meeting.
>
> Linda V.
> www.zorrofarms.com
>

The annual all gaited show is Aug 26. I do not know the start time
yet. There will be Foxtrot classes. Last years judge was Pat Aubuchon.
  I will try to post a start time and show bill.  vicki

What can we do to bring in new non foxtrot horse owners?  Gabby  How about partnering with some of the area 4-H clubs in some way.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah McCoin

To: BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:16 PM

Subject: [BiStateMFTAssn] Meeting delay in time/post - an idea, please read

Because of this delay in time, what if we utilize this time to toss
our ideas out as to where we would like to see this affiliate head
complete with clinic ideas, trail rides, advertisement, membership,
etc.

I will then compile the data and send to each member a summary of the
discussions requesting additional comments, then I will compile and
send to each officer/bod member for a vote with an outcome report
prepared and sent to each member.

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

So far we have the following:

1) $20 for Advertisement at the Celebration
2) English Clinic 8/19 & 8/20
3) Informal trail ride in Sullivan, MO (trail ride hostess Coralie
Steuber) w/ BBQ at Coralie's in Stanton.
4) Colleen ??? you there?

--- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "vicki cook" <vcook118@...>
wrote:
>
> I vote yes. I will offer a blanket vote for any clinic we can
arrange
>

Thanks Beth.

  --- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Zorro Farms" <zorro@...>
wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have the show bill for the St. Louis Regional Show
in
> Sullivan?
> >
> > Linda V.
> > www.zorrofarms.com
>
>
> Linda, You can find the show bill on the St. Louis Regional
Foxtrotters
> website at http://www.mofoxtrot.com/stlouisfoxtrotters/events.htm.
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
>



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--- In BiStateMFTAssn@yahoogroups.com, "Zorro Farms" <zorro@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the show bill for the St. Louis Regional Show in
Sullivan?
>
> Linda V.
> www.zorrofarms.com


Linda, You can find the show bill on the St. Louis Regional Foxtrotters
website at http://www.mofoxtrot.com/stlouisfoxtrotters/events.htm.

Beth