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Yanking or jerking on horse's head with halter rope   Message List  
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Re: [BillsBook] Yanking or jerking on horse's head with halter rope

<<Yes. This is what a 'snatch' is, as in 'snatch' his (the horse's) head back>>
(got those brackets right this time :)

[moderator's note: brackets point >> INTO << the quoted text. note the
difference here and above.]

Anita W,
Enjoyed your descriptions of 'fixed hand' and a 'snatch'. Your 'fixed hand'
is what I mean when I tell folks to 'be a post' (post doesn't move.... doesn't
pull, doesn't get pulled.... just 'is'). I would say though that what I
described (or 'meant' to describe ) as a bump would not be what you described as
a 'snatch', for it sounds like the situation leading to the use of the 'snatch'
is different. What I described would be used when the horse has a steady
resistance on the line....the horse is pulling. .... not for when the horse is
jerking and the snatch technique applied when 'the horse is about to hit the end
of the lead'. Timing the execution of the 'snatch' would definitely be the key
for success, no doubt. Timing the start of the 'bump' process is not really
such an issue (guess it depends on when you finally get tired of the horse
pulling on you ha,ha). Once started though, timing of the transition from
neutral line to the point where you crisply meet resistance again, & then the
release is crucial to the success of the bump. The release for both methods
(bump & snatch) would seem to be similar in the timing. The result of the snatch
seems to bring the head to a new 'place', whereas the bump, doesn't have to
bring the head to a new place ... rather it is to get the horse to quit
pulling on you and quit trying to take his head/body to a place further than the
length of rope I've granted him. If after the bump, you require the head/horse
to then go to a different place, that would be a separate request/action/
technique.
Excellent descriptions of fixed hand & snatch..... thanks for posting them.
<'\___~ Tami McAdams
( \ )\ www.TheStickLady.net



Tue Jul 7, 2009 8:08 pm

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