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1186		Johanna Lampe jolamfro@...	Jul 2, 2000 11:27 am
	THANK YOU VERY MUCH LESLIE DESMOND, for sharing some of you knowledge with us!! I consider myself very fortunate being one of the persons in you clinic in Oslo...
1187		elvamico ej@...	Jul 4, 2000 1:48 am
	... How wonderful for you that you were able to attend the clinic and see Leslie in real life. I've heard this is the experience of a lifetime! Hope sometime...
1188		Penny Ray pray@...	Jul 5, 2000 12:17 am
	Hi, I am new to the group and have a 4yr old. Sandy Fox is a dear friend of mine and has been helping me with him. I have seen her in action by teaching me...
1189		smokeefe@...	Jul 7, 2000 12:53 pm
	Hi folks!! I will be in New York City beginning Monday for the next 1-1/2 weeks. Does anyone know of any fun equine facilities to visit or clinics going on...
1190		Diane Garland 827feed@...	Jul 7, 2000 12:53 pm
	... Annie, Sounds like your horse is either frightened or in pain. I would have him checked by a vet, as well as finding someone who could analyze your saddle...
1191		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 7, 2000 2:03 pm
	Hi All, I had a thought and wanted to bounce it off you all. Been talking about C/T and what I am calling C/R (using reinforcements other than treats - to...
1192		Gale Nelson galen@...	Jul 7, 2000 5:41 pm
	In reading Annie's post and Diane's response, I would agree that the horse in question could very well be afraid or responding to an ill-fitting saddle. He may...
1193		Mark Andrew m.andrew@...	Jul 7, 2000 7:43 pm
	Hi All This is my first post to the list, hope I'm not breaking any rules or etiquette. I thought about the food treats issue and then I wondered how the food...
1194		Jaki (Koda) Cast hooftrax@...	Jul 7, 2000 7:50 pm

1195		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 7, 2000 8:18 pm
	... always the lower'. ... a cat ... horses. Food ... cause ... Hi, The problem I have with this line of thinking is it is based on our supposing what the...
1196		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 8, 2000 12:11 am
	... Not what he might be thinking, but what meaning something has for him (same as the discussion on understanding). We have to translate equine meaning into...
1197		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 8, 2000 1:23 am
	Hey Jackie, Thanks for waking up the list. <G> ... Well, mmm, see I don't think so.... I think putting a lot of energy into figuring out 'equine meaning' and...
1198		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 8, 2000 2:01 am
	Me again... one more thing... ... he may ... behaviour ... Do you have a ferinstance here? An example of the sort of thing you mean... where you thought you...
1199		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 8, 2000 11:38 am
	... Hi Heather - I would say it were more akin to us leading the horse out to a field, and turning him out. Jackie...
1200		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 8, 2000 11:39 am
	... Not instead, as well as. If by using treats to reinforce a behaviour you create disrespect (ei erode respect), and respect is to some extent the basis for...
1201		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 8, 2000 11:39 am
	... Hmm, I still disagree, because sometimes you have to address the cause to overcome that. If I 'lose' my horse because my saddle hurts him, doesn't matter ...
1202		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 8, 2000 12:10 pm
	... I can see this is one of those things we could go round and round on! But you didn't really answer my question. What does the horse DO that you don't...
1203		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 8, 2000 1:14 pm
	... In that scenario, you may see absolutely nothing - maybe he might just 'be slightly less aware of me than normal'. It is 'on the edge' of the boundaries ...
1204		Penny Johnson pennyj@...	Jul 8, 2000 1:15 pm
	Hi Gale, Please share the name and way to contact this good and honest saddle maker. It is such a wonderful thing to encounter people whe you can look up to...
1205		rick.w RICK.W@...	Jul 8, 2000 1:15 pm
	... Hi everyone, You don't hear from me much, but I am always there lurking and very much appreciate all you fluent writers. I have gained many insights from...
1206		Diane Garland 827feed@...	Jul 8, 2000 1:15 pm
	'He who yields food is always the lower'. Jackie, I believe that this is true. I have thought a lot about it, and have spent a lot of time watching horses...
1207		Gwenyth Santagate santa@...	Jul 8, 2000 1:15 pm
	... horse isn't with me... there is only one bottom line that matters.... he not with me. I don't see myself changing my approach based on the various reasons...
1208		bseidel@...	Jul 8, 2000 7:16 pm
	It is starting to sound to me like the discussion has become a debate between the behaviorists and the (in psychological terms) humanists. Two theories that...
1209		Leslie Desmond Diamondlu@...	Jul 8, 2000 7:16 pm
	Hello Again, I recently saw a live demonstration of clicker training. I have seen tapes of it as well, and have had a number clicker trained horses in my...
1210		Jackie Jackie@...	Jul 8, 2000 7:54 pm
	... Ah yes, thank you Rick - you echo my feelings on the broader issue. Someone gave me a good 'pointer' toward a particular feel the other day, playing with...
1211		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 9, 2000 3:39 am
	... Hi Gwen, You did misunderstand! I said that it didn't matter why the horse wasn't "with me" but that GETTING him with me was my only concern. The manner...
1212		smokeefe@...	Jul 9, 2000 12:33 pm
	A little anecdote for the group. I give therapeutic riding lessons for two boys and the other day one had finished his lesson and was going to leave. He likes...
1213		Nancy Morton nancmort@...	Jul 10, 2000 5:27 am
	Before you all get off the track here....and I am late reading these posts....This one is from Sharon concerning a Harry Whitney clinic with her and her...
1214		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 10, 2000 10:47 am
	... Out of curiosity Rick <G> if your boss stopped paying you how long do you think you would stay in the job? Oh you might carry on for a while, but ...
1215		Sharon Foley sfoley@...	Jul 10, 2000 12:12 pm
	... <snip> ... One thing I have learned is that resolving this may take a small amount of physical energy... but I have to say it takes a huge amount of mental...

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