I have someone working on a report of the weekend which will be
included in a BLA magazine.  Have you seen the photos ? I have them
here in my pocket..........

steve

> Take care (of the fishes u brought back from Denmark

OK you've whetted our appetites. Everyone seems to have been to Denmark but
nobody has said anything about what fish were there, what was brought back &
how good were these amazing prices at the auction?
More importantly the site & members would appreciate your digital camera
downloads of the show & fish.
Some of us had to stay behind & slave over a website !
Over 90 photos on the site now which is only scratching the surface of the
work to put up. A new counter was put on which is showing already near 100
hits. Excuse the biotope section, we are working on data to put against the
photos.
The 'trade page' is online. Please get in touch to put your availables or
wants in this section. This also includes putting up odd fish you have or
need for pairing up. This is your page to advertise free online. I put a
small ad on to start it off. Spring is just around the corner & you can now
sell your spare fish online through the site.
Is there an auction before the June charity do?

        Tim

Hi all guys, I got back home yesterday evening...Just
would like to thank you all
(David,Peter,Ivan,Steve,Bob and John) for the great
weekend we spent together. I'm looking forward to meet
u all again :)

Take care (of the fishes u brought back from Denmark
:D )

Diego



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steve

>The prices were low, but that is good for the buyers.  The sellers could
have placed a reserve of two pounds if they wanted, but clearly they were
not worried about it.

Oh Steve you are so  right. At the Midland auction we do not sell fish under
£2. A breeder has had to spend at least 6 months of effort to put them into
auction. We are not money grabbers only people who have been there & done
it. Our auction puts 10% to disabled charities which we welcome.
Fish sold at £1 means you only get 80p which is ridiculous really. I got
this for a new guppy variety after spending loads of time in getting it
available for distribution. Only one female came from the distributors which
I found. An established new variety gets 80p after loads of work. Crazy.
Please distibute this variety & keep them going.
Breeders are frightened in not selling fish by going to the effort in
bagging them up & travelling great distances to an auction to put reserves
on & take fish home.
Wake up guys, put a reserve of £2 on all lots & get a decent return on your
work.
A strong membership with good prices for fish is a direct response to
conservation.

I think personally that 20% is a bit steep as a commission for the BLA to
set. I'm a newcomer but this is a real off putter to attracting new
breeders.
This newsgroup is all about members voicing opinions & chatting about them
online.
So let's chat & voice our views.....

      Tim

I would be very interested in a copy of the paper that you mention,
thankyou.

I have posted a photo of one of my N. Towoetii.  As soon as the tank
was disturbed all of the halfbeaks displayed this colouration.
Removal to a photo tank did not improve matters even after leaving
the fish to settle for some conciderable time.  You can however make
out the reminants of one of the light coloured stripes on the back
end.

Steve

The list at PNWL is a list of species of livebearing fish.  It is a work
in progress.  We hope to someday have a picture and breif essay on each
species.  I am also in the process of reworking the list, to be more
user friendly.

Doran

blaeditor wrote:

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> Now that I have joined the list I was interested in seeing who else
> has joined.  There is a link to the Pacific Northwest Livebearer
> Club.  The website has a great spring of angel fish !!  There is a
> list of fish, but I am not sure if it is just a list of if it is a
> list of fish that the members have.  There is a picture of N.
> towoetii which is described as a black fish.  When I kept some I
> found that this was the 'fright' colour, but when the stock was
> settled and happy the colour very much resembled that of a chocolate
> gourami - brown colour with yellowy white intermitant vertical
> stripes.  Can anyone comment on this ?
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Now that I have joined the list I was interested in seeing who else
has joined.  There is a link to the Pacific Northwest Livebearer
Club.  The website has a great spring of angel fish !!  There is a
list of fish, but I am not sure if it is just a list of if it is a
list of fish that the members have.  There is a picture of N.
towoetii which is described as a black fish.  When I kept some I
found that this was the 'fright' colour, but when the stock was
settled and happy the colour very much resembled that of a chocolate
gourami - brown colour with yellowy white intermitant vertical
stripes.  Can anyone comment on this ?

--- In BritishLivebearer@yahoogroups.com, Livebearium
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> Just out of curiosity  how hard is it to import fish from the UK,
to the
> US?  Not professionally just a guy who has a few fish he wants to
bring
> back in his luggage.
>
> Doran

Hi Doran,
I took tropical fish to the ALA convention in Kalamazoo last year.
All I needed was to get an import/export licence from USA fish and
wildlife department, which proved to be very quick and easy to
obtain. The biggest problem can be with the airlines as some will
not carry livestock. I used one of the American airlines who weren't
bothered about taking fish on board but only in my case, not in hand
luggage.
> David.
> Tim Addis wrote:
>
> > Ten members are now registered on this new site. A newsgroup can
only
> > become
> > credible & survive if members participate with a few questions,
> > comments or
> > a bit of advice to those posing questions.
> > A photo album has been set up for members to post photo's. Some
are
> > already
> > there. To view, go into the Yahoo site & look up the group. When
you enter
> > your password etc you can click the photo link to access the
folders
> > put up.
> > A newsgroup is for sharing new information also such as:-
> >
> > We are hoping to put wild Nomorhamphus ravnaki ravnaki in the
auction at
> > Corby in a couple of weeks.
> >
> > How many species of halfbeak are in the UK at this time?
> >
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Just out of curiosity  how hard is it to import fish from the UK, to the
US?  Not professionally just a guy who has a few fish he wants to bring
back in his luggage.

Doran

Tim Addis wrote:

> Ten members are now registered on this new site. A newsgroup can only
> become
> credible & survive if members participate with a few questions,
> comments or
> a bit of advice to those posing questions.
> A photo album has been set up for members to post photo's. Some are
> already
> there. To view, go into the Yahoo site & look up the group. When you enter
> your password etc you can click the photo link to access the folders
> put up.
> A newsgroup is for sharing new information also such as:-
>
> We are hoping to put wild Nomorhamphus ravnaki ravnaki in the auction at
> Corby in a couple of weeks.
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> How many species of halfbeak are in the UK at this time?
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Ten members are now registered on this new site. A newsgroup can only become
credible & survive if members participate with a few questions, comments or
a bit of advice to those posing questions.
A photo album has been set up for members to post photo's. Some are already
there. To view, go into the Yahoo site & look up the group. When you enter
your password etc you can click the photo link to access the folders put up.
A newsgroup is for sharing new information also such as:-

We are hoping to put wild Nomorhamphus ravnaki ravnaki in the auction at
Corby in a couple of weeks.

How many species of halfbeak are in the UK at this time?

            Tim

> Placed a few photos of the halfbeaks we have in one of the photo
> albums, and it appears I was wrong in naming them Nom.sp.1 Santani
> I believe them now to be Nomorhamphus navnai navnaki? perhaps someone
> could confirm this? Im also asking for any good information as to
> there upkeep "water parameters ext" (we are looseing a few,..our
> water is soft)

Al, don't lose them I just cleaned out a tank to take them!!! Perhaps you
better give them to me now. That clear roof in my fish house with all those
sunny rays will do them a power of good.
I suppose I will have to get fruit flies going again.
I just read a report where they stated salt was most important to newly
received halfbeaks but I presume you already did this.
Can you get a better idea of the collecting location or is it the usual
situation?
I have so far received offers of around 1500 photo's of fish & biotopes for
the new BLA site.
I think I've created another monster!
Al Klopman has sent me new photo's of his Nom.towoetii which is on Aquabid
now. A photo will be on the site when it is uploaded in a couple of weeks.

      Tim

Hi all.

Placed a few photos of the halfbeaks we have in one of the photo
albums, and it appears I was wrong in naming them Nom.sp.1 Santani
I believe them now to be Nomorhamphus navnai navnaki? perhaps someone
could confirm this? Im also asking for any good information as to
there upkeep "water parameters ext" (we are looseing a few,..our
water is soft)
   to those interested we obtained them from a Indonesian exporter
under the name of Celebes Halfbeak.

Alan Green.

Tim,

Saying that they are imported is fine.  I just wondered if you had
collected them or obtained them from someone else.

I agree that all halfbeaks are exciting fish.  I have successfully bred
Deromgenys pusillus and Nomoraphus ebrarti (sp?)

Looking forward to getting some N. towoetti this summer from an
aquaintance of mine here in the states.

Doran

Tim Addis wrote:

> > So tell me how you came accross the Nomorhamphus sp 1 that you are
> > talking about.
>
> Hi Doran,
>
> Thanks for signing in. I have not seen these fish myself yet. We hope
> to get
> them round & put some out to BLA members but keep a brood stock in our
> tanks. I think any halfbeak form is worthy of our attention especially
> from
> wild stock.
> The full story of how we came by them cannot be told I think as this is a
> commercial contact. My source could not be expected to put such details
> online.
> We are not amateurs at importing fish & get all possible details on
> any new
> import. You will appreciate the tsunami has had a significant effect
> on the
> habitat of Nomorhamphus sp. This is regarded as a special import.
>
>      All the best.... Tim
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> So tell me how you came accross the Nomorhamphus sp 1 that you are
> talking about.

Hi Doran,

Thanks for signing in. I have not seen these fish myself yet. We hope to get
them round & put some out to BLA members but keep a brood stock in our
tanks. I think any halfbeak form is worthy of our attention especially from
wild stock.
The full story of how we came by them cannot be told I think as this is a
commercial contact. My source could not be expected to put such details
online.
We are not amateurs at importing fish & get all possible details on any new
import. You will appreciate the tsunami has had a significant effect on the
habitat of Nomorhamphus sp. This is regarded as a special import.

      All the best.... Tim

Hey guys,

I am a member of the ALA, and the Chairman of the PNWL.

So tell me how you came accross the Nomorhamphus sp 1 that you are
talking about.

Doran Figart


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wrote:
> > I believe the strain of halfbeaks we are holding
> > is Nomorhamphus sp.1,Sentani, according to the Aqualog
> > book on Livebears & Halfbeaks, But I could be wrong!  -:)
> > will up date you later.
>
> Thanks Al, the thing comes through OK. Thanks for testing it out. It's
> important to save these fish for conservation.
>
>      Tim

> I believe the strain of halfbeaks we are holding
> is Nomorhamphus sp.1,Sentani, according to the Aqualog
> book on Livebears & Halfbeaks, But I could be wrong!  -:)
> will up date you later.

Thanks Al, the thing comes through OK. Thanks for testing it out. It's
important to save these fish for conservation.

      Tim

Tim,

I believe the strain of halfbeaks we are holding
is Nomorhamphus sp.1,Sentani, according to the Aqualog
book on Livebears & Halfbeaks, But I could be wrong!  -:)
will up date you later.

Alan Green.