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Re: Two videos on why not to vaccinate

There were few years my vet would not even give the lepto vaccine. It was not a
serious problem in the area for one thing but more importantly the vaccine was
nasty nasty. They have changed it recently (last couple years) and she is now
giving them but I believe it's every 3 years only.

On the side about pain after vaccines...
When I was a kid we went to a clinic with 3 vets. There was one vet out of the
3 that did something different than the others. Everytime he gave the rabies
vaccine (it was yearly back then) my little dog would whimper or even yelp. The
next day or 2 she would be hurting all over to the point she did not want to be
touched. Now some would say it was the vaccine but I will tell you sincerely,
we did not have that reaction from the other 2 vets.

Mary


--- In DSA_TalkList@yahoogroups.com, Chicago Canine <chicagocanine@...> wrote:
>
> Something very similar to that happened when I vaccinated my therapy
> dog (Ginger) the last time... My therapy dog org. had always required
> a lot of vaccinations, so when it was time for her to get her health
> certificate renewed I had an old form so I brought that to the vet and
> they did the usual vacc. Later Ginger refused to get up and when I
> encouraged her to get up she was badly limping on a front leg (no
> reason). I emailed my vet and she said it was a vaccine reaction, so I
> brought her back in to get treated. My vet said it was probably caused
> by the lepto vaccine... I found out later that the therapy
> organization had switched to allow titers OR vaccines but since I
> had an older copy of the health form I didn't know. That was the last
> year Ginger got any vaccines. I would have only done the rabies since
> it is required here but I got the 3-year rabies that year so she
> didn't need it again.
>
> Lizzi
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Kay <kdnest50@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I
> >
> > The last time my therapy dog had vac's, it scared me to death.  The vet did
a three year rabies, and all the combo shots all at the same time ( I go to a
different vet now ! !) and that evening my dog couldn't get up off the floor, he
looked at me as much as to say " I don't feel good mom" and I'll never forget
it.  He was better in 24 hours but I don't want to do that again.  I think at
this new vet we'll ask for a titer test for the other things - we won't have to
get a rabies for three years .
> >
> > Thanks for your input !
>
>
> --
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> Chicago Canine
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Fri Jul 3, 2009 5:14 pm

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These 2 videos (part 1 and part 2) touch on the basics of why annual vaccinations can harm pets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKjY0oyKe3A and ...
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scoutdogs107
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Jun 4, 2009
3:37 pm

I'm going to jump right in here and ask questions, because I've worried about this for years. so many dogs with issues, cancers, auto-immune problems, I...
KAY NESTER
kflutes
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Jun 4, 2009
4:28 pm

Good questions Kay, I use Ivermectin with my dogs for prevention of heartworms. I don't use flea prevention because we have not had any issues with fleas...
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scoutdogs107
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Jun 4, 2009
5:17 pm

Why is discussion of this to friends who are vets unheard of? Fortunately vets can learn. I left one vet when I found out he did rabies as an annual as a way...
Kathryn Holmes
holmeskh2001
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Jun 4, 2009
9:08 pm

These vets are very very dear friends and they have not come around to the idea of not doing the annual vaccinations yet. We have agreed to disagree because...
Kay
kflutes
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Jun 4, 2009
9:16 pm

OK, I'm at work too so haven't viewed the videos yet (I guess goofing off posting is OK, but watching videos crosses some kind of line for me... ha! "Big...
Ann Withun
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Jun 4, 2009
5:15 pm

My vet has been offering/doing titer testing since long before it was accepted in the veterinary field. He said in one of his talks a couple of years ago that...
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scoutdogs107
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Jun 4, 2009
5:48 pm

But what do you do when there is a request for vac records ( ex: dog classes, etc). Does the vet sign a new record when they have the titer results saying...
Kay
kflutes
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Jun 4, 2009
6:02 pm

We have followed Dr. Jean Dodds recommendation for vaccinations using the minimal vaccination protocol. We use titers with Cirra. It is my understanding that...
seaherons
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Jun 4, 2009
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I would love to be able to use essential oils again. Years ago I used only citrus oils for flea protection and it worked great. I would also spray my house,...
Kay
kflutes
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Jun 4, 2009
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Something very similar to that happened when I vaccinated my therapy dog (Ginger) the last time... My therapy dog org. had always required a lot of...
Chicago Canine
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Jul 3, 2009
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There were few years my vet would not even give the lepto vaccine. It was not a serious problem in the area for one thing but more importantly the vaccine was...
Mary
mjhinchman
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Jul 3, 2009
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More and more places/organizations are accepting titer testing as proof of vaccination. And if they don't, it's time to educate them. The vet can give you a...
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scoutdogs107
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Jun 4, 2009
7:00 pm

The concept has some merit, but there are so many places that won't usually accept anybody test result instead of a current vaccine (dog boarding and training...
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kaemka77
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Jun 4, 2009
9:38 pm

Keep asking and, if possible, educating. Most people simply don't understand how vaccinations work or how the titers work. Once educated, most people can see...
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scoutdogs107
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Jun 4, 2009
9:52 pm

Are there also some nice pamphlets out there I could print and hand out? Very often people hesitate at first, but the information at hand makes changing their...
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kaemka77
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Jun 5, 2009
2:27 am

Not that I am aware of, but perhaps Dr. Dodds has something? Or the Dr. mentioned in the video clips? I'm sure there ARE pamphlets available from somewhere,...
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scoutdogs107
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Jun 5, 2009
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I know my dog "Happy" can not recieve a Rabies or Distemper shots because she had a terrible reaction to both of them ( she was like death warmed over) and...
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