The energy of a Greyhound is much lower then a Jack Russel or an Aussie. 
Greyhounds are known as the 45 mph couch potato.

Geri




To: DogWhispererFans@yahoogroups.com
From: b.hrvy@...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:46:26 -0800
Subject: RE: [DogWhispererFans] Re: Hundreds of Greyhounds need new homes!




























       Hi: Thanks for the imput. As it turns out a gal I work with does greyhound
rescue. She's taking in 5 of these dogs and has 2 already. I'm going to go meet
them next week - see what I'm getting myself into. She also has cats - one of
her rescues was a cat chaser but was trained out of it. My cats already run the
house - so much for "pack leadership" I try - but in their eyes, dogs are mere
things that need to be kept in their places. I've told Kit about my menagerie
and she said she'd make sure I got one that would fit in. You know - there are
some things you just can't turn your head and ignore. The needless deaths of
1500 greyhounds is one of them. I have a Jack Russell and and Aussie x - they
are delightful, loving, fun, definitely keep me on my toes - and I wouldn't live
without them. I've never thought of havng a greyhound - but I never thought I'd
have a Jack Russell either. I've missed a lot of Cesars shows - work gets in the
way - but do you know

  if he has ever done a show where a greyhound was involved?

Thanks..Becky











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HI Meg.
 
You have to take control of the situation. Can you keep the cats inside and the
dog outside? This will ensure that the cats and dog don't meet. (worries gone).
 
I would put this dog on a strict rules,discipline routine. Exercise, play, eat,
and sleep. (long down stay) at least 4 times a day (replace eat with chew 3
times (low fat chew)
 
Put it on a high quality kibble for weight loss and only feed it the amount for
a normal sized husky. The combo of less food and more exercise will melt weight
off and if it doesn't -chances are that the dog has a medical condition.
(thyroid) -can cause aggression also
.
Huskies are VERY hard to train on a loose leash walk.. I have two sisters that
drive me nuts.  (beagles are the same).  The long leash method with sharp
turns (make a box) and reward when the catch up is better.  Ignore the dog and
continue walking / reward when they come to your side.  Pack leader walks are
essential to balance the mind of a dog like this...half the battle to leadership
is won there.
 
LONG down stays are also essential. This dog needs to know that you will OUT
WILL it. so keep replacing it until the dog "sighs" and stays. (submits)
 
Once you have accomplished the primal routine plus mastering these two things
(the walk, and the dog lays down and stays where and when you ask)  then you
can try to bring one dominant cat out and correct if the dog EVEN LOOKS at the
cat.
 
You will have to win respect through leadership BEFORE you can gain control over
the prey / snap drive..
 
Its alot of work and its not fair that it all falls on you but who else is going
to help this dog? You committed to this dog when you took it. You know that it
will probably be returned again...if not helped now...You will see it again.
 
Take your time, make a plan so the cats are safe and this husky looses weight
and gains respect. Tell yourself that you "WILL" do this and do what it takes to
make it happen.

PS -Thanks for trying to help this dog. He doesn't have a voice...so I'll be
it..
Lori Reynolds

Grateful Stride Pet Sitting www.gratefulstride.com
Lori Reynolds & Tony Allison 905-465-9409
Insured professionals lori@...

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Meg Francoeur <zghorse@...> wrote:
Lori,
I'm going to need all the support that I can get. This dog has now been returned
to me TWICE! The first family that adopted him returned him because he killed a
stray cat in their yard....duh. ..I think I told them he'd kill a cat if they
weren't careful. The wife was worried that he would kill their smaller dogs
because "he thought they were a cat too". I explained that he was already
familiar with the dogs, their scent and their movements and he wouldn't think
they were a cat. His wife still couldn't get over it, so they returned him.
Second person adopted him today. I spoke to her for almost an hour yesterday
about him, she walked him with me and really liked him. She took him home and
they left him alone in the house for a few hours. When they returned...he had
torn up a bunch of stuff in the room they had him in. I had no idea that he
would have separation anxiety. The guy that returned him was keeping him inside
during the day while he was at work
  (although he had several other dogs as well), and the former owner was keeping
him in an apartment for a while so obviously he was able to stay alone inside.
Most likely all this moving around is triggering it, but I don't keep my dogs
indoors while I'm gone so I've seen no sign of problems. I had a brief moment of
barking one night when he was put into the laundry room to sleep, but that was
only about 3 barks and he settled down and went to sleep without issue after
that. I've not heard a peep from him since. I'm not sure what to do about this
dog. I've got another person looking at him tomorrow and I've already told them
he was returned due to separation anxiety. They didn't seem too concerned, but I
haven't had a chance to really talk with them. We'll see. He's a nice dog, but
frankly, he's turning my whole household on end. I can't trust him enough with
the cats yet to allow him to be loose if they are in the living areas, so they
have to be locked
  up in our room if he's not restrained. When he is restrained, my one cat that
he attacked refuses to come out of our room and now his food has to be back
there or he'd never eat. I can't let him outside either like he likes because he
might be too far away from safety if the dog goes after him. I'm not ready to
sacrifice my cats to this dog. We're also supposed to go visit my sister for
Thanksgiving next Thursday and were going to stay overnight. Once Kleine was
adopted, we had told my sister we would both be there and now we've got this dog
back. I'm hoping I can figure something out if he doesn't get adopted because
I'd really like my husband to be able to enjoy Thanksgiving with me and the
family as planned. Otherwise he will stay here and take care of them. My sister
will be really disappointed. ....sigh. ...I'm not feeling very Cesar like right
now. Assertive calmness is about to take a hike!!

Meg

Yes, it's just a plastic syringe :)

Thank you for this - I think you know how much I like for y'all to give me
step by step instructions. And you never know when you'll need such
information later!

She's actually been doing really well taking the liquid for me, but I'm
considering getting the pills because she loves hot dogs - lol - well, any
kind of meat - and I've been giving her the vitamin c in the hot dogs so I
think I could do the smaller pills even easier.

I'm so grateful she's such a sweet tempered dog at this point - lol!

Mary

-------Original Message-------

From: phil


Since you already got the liquid and a syringe .... here's the "HOW TO"
Works for dogs from yorkies to danes ...

Put the required amount into the syringe.  Then the easiest way to get the
dog to swallow the fluid medication is to get hold of the bottom of the
opposite side of their jaw (reach across under) and pull their face-chin
kinda over to your leg (either leg that's comfortable and with the aid of
perhaps your index finger on the nad with the syringe open their lips at the
back of the mouth (opposite the side your holding with the other hand ...
like left hand has right lower jaw - right hand places syringe inside left
lips).

Get the syringe inside far enough that even with the dog's mouth closed you
can feed the fluid in next to teeth-gums and dog will begin to open mouth
and start licking and swallowing.  YOu don't gotta wrestle their mouths open
this way (like with tablets and capsules).  So actually I find it easier
sometimes (if I can get a good hole of the dogs face) to administor liquid
meds.

Give it a go before you switch to tablets so you don't gotta spend more
money needlessly ?

Phil in La Habra, ca.

BTW, the syringe is just a plastic syringe with no tip right ?

<snip>

Thanks Mary <grins>!

We left him for about an hour or so last night while we went to Church.  My
husband has a small digital voice recorder so we put that on before we left. 
When we came home, he was groggy looking up at us from his pillow and when we
checked the recorder, he whined loudly for about 3 minutes and that was it! My
oldest thinks he sounds like Chewbacca from Star Wars : )

We had a thorough check done at our vet...fecal, urinalysis and bloodwork. 
Everything looks okay. His iron is a little low.  Our vet did not recommend
anything special but if you have any suggestions for naturally boosting his
iron, that would be great.  We are also adding a powder called *The Missing
Link* to his food.

We are doing three 15 minute walks a day but we can't do more than that since he
cannot afford to burn any calories.  He is doing alot of resting right now and
he just has a wonderful temperament.

The only thing I was wondering about is that when my oldest son approaches him
to pet him, he backs away a bit. My son is 6' 4" and I think he was approaching
him the wrong way...kind of towering over him and reaching out to pet him so we
are trying a different approach. I told my son to wait 'til Chance approaches
him first then instead of reaching over him to pet from the side.  I am open to
any suggestions for this as well.

Blessings,
Theresa George
PA



--- In DogWhispererFans@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Nellum" <marykins@...> wrote:
>
> I had no doubt that he would - you are doing a great job :)
>
> Mary
>

Kathy-I think your assessment is right on the money.  I often get into an
"information overload" state.  I find this magazine entertaining and
informative (little snipets hidden here and there).


Becky Jones
"I did then what I knew then.  When I knew better, I did better."  Maya
Angelou
----- Original Message -----
From: <jhavana@...>


> I'm really happy with this issue -- it's my first (I'm going to see if I
> can get hold of the first issue if at all possible!). I agree, Kathy, that
> I like seeing which celebrities have dogs (or cats or any kind of pet) and
> what kind of dog and I also like reading the quotes. I was happy to see
> the pictures of Cesar and his family in the Christmas season --
> particularly his love of lighting up his house. Even though I don't do a
> lot for lighting up the outside of my house, I love seeing Christmas
> lights and live in a rural area where many of the neighbors go all out and
> "blanket the countryside" with lights (one person even lights up three
> tractors in front of his house)!
>
> I also like the many short articles -- this is truly a magazine intended
> to reach a broad spectrum of people on many levels with many interests.
> It's a perfect thing to find in places with waiting rooms cause you can
> read whole articles in one waiting period. It's also designed, in my
> opinion, for the "info-bite" age. Like all the Dorling Kindersley books
> with lavish illustrations and small pieces of information spread
> throughout each page, this magazine cuts right to the point in our
> info-heavy, time-starved lifestyles.
>
> So I think it has set itself up to do a specific thing -- and does it
> really well.
>
> Just my weird conceptualizations at work here! :)
>
> Jackie, Eve and the Cat Pack
><snip>

After reading Cesar's new puppy book I'm thinking about changing my adult
dogs to feeding once a day instead of twice. I'm wandering when is the best
time to feed the single meal (time of day) and how to change to a single
meal as their stomachs wont use used to that much food at once?

Thanks
Liz (south east UK)
Troy, Ezri & Meru

The Benadryl won't make a difference in how long the "cold" lasts...it will
simply alleviate the symptoms (which are almost identical to allergy
symptoms).  Think people...runny nose, watery eyes, sneezing...Benadryl will
just make you less miserable.


Becky Jones
"I did then what I knew then.  When I knew better, I did better."  Maya
Angelou
----- Original Message -----
From: "Meg Francoeur" <zghorse@...>

> Mary,
> Diphenhydramine comes in tablets and capsules and often just putting them
> in a piece of meat or cheese will do the trick.  25 mg/25 lbs is the usual
> dose although I tend to dose on the low side.  I've never heard of it's
> use for a respiratory type virus though, only for allergic reactions.
>
>
>
> Meg
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Hi All,

I did contact the owner with suggestions of contacting local pet food stores,
and the local Humane Society.  I even got a store that sells pet food to offer 6
cans of free wet food.

The pet owner wanted it, but she doesn't have a car, and her mother won't take
her to get any food.

This is hard for me to understand.  When I spoke to her mother, she became
demanding, and definitely not appreciative of what I was trying to do.

Her pit bull is looking too lean, and is a pup.

I do not understand her domineering mother behaving this way....
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mary Nellum


   Got this from another list - thought it might be of help for you and/or your
   friend.

   Mary

   1) approach your local pet food place, where you purchase your pet food.
   Ask them if they would be willing to donate to you broken bags of food---not
   salable, nothing wrong, just got a tear in the bag when it ws unloaded from
   the truck.
   2) Ask about returned bags of food. Many people return bags. Nothin wrong
   with them, their dog simply doesn't like the food.
   3) If you have a service/therapy dog, go to the big chains: Ask if they
   would be willing to donate a bag of food per month and if a groomer would be
   willing to donate services
   once per month.

   In exchange---offer to be at all "events' and hand out business cards,
   coupons, ect. And, have a patch made for your cape that says "My dog's food
   is Provided by >>>>Pet food Store.

   I do this, and it works great! I know sometimes it take courage to ask...

   Also, PETSMART/BANFIELD offers, per store, 5 free basic wellness packages to
   clients in neeed. You might ask if this is available. It wil cover the
   cost of vaccines and such. Sometimes it is overbooked, but it can't hurt to
   ask.

   You could also ask the same of your vet.

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It's ALL PROGRESS ... That's the important thing and it's all building
relationship and respect.

Phil

--- In DogWhispererFans@yahoogroups.com, "Audra" <Audra4u@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Phil,
>
> Tyoga does very well on some days and I have tried new things to distract. 
When he is ready to pounce on the cat I shake a plastic bottle with pennies in
it.  IT WORKS!  for now.  Also,  I got him to come in the house now..With ham. 
Whatever works and then gradually wean off the ham  Today I got Tyoga to bring a
stick back to me..yea!  I traded him the stick and he got treat.  Again it
works!  I will go on from there and remove food.  I see more and more
progression.  Some set backs but I will move forward.
>
>
> Audra
> Go Sabres
>
>   -----
>

Audra,
It's difficult to decide just from the description. While tail down is often a
sign of submission, if you've ever seen a dog stalk prey, the tail is often
down, the dog stares and is silent.  The look is completely different from a
submissive dog and how they look.  The fact that the ears were up and pricked
said more to me that he was in a stalking mode rather then in a curious or
submissive mode.  You don't say if his body was more relaxed like a dog just
checking out something new and curious, or if he was more hunched down and
moving more slowly.


Meg

Lori,
I'm going to need all the support that I can get. This dog has now been returned
to me TWICE!  The first family that adopted him returned him because he killed a
stray cat in their yard....duh...I think I told them he'd kill a cat if they
weren't careful.  The wife was worried that he would kill their smaller dogs
because "he thought they were a cat too".  I explained that he was already
familiar with the dogs, their scent and their movements and he wouldn't think
they were a cat. His wife still couldn't get over it, so they returned him. 
Second person adopted him today.  I spoke to her for almost an hour yesterday
about him, she walked him with me and really liked him. She took him home and
they left him alone in the house for a few hours. When they returned...he had
torn up a bunch of stuff in the room they had him in.  I had no idea that he
would have separation anxiety. The guy that returned him was keeping him inside
during the day while he was at work (although he had several other dogs as
well), and the former owner was keeping him in an apartment for a while so
obviously he was able to stay alone inside.  Most likely all this moving around
is triggering it, but I don't keep my dogs indoors while I'm gone so I've seen
no sign of problems. I had a brief moment of barking one night when he was put
into the laundry room to sleep, but that was only about 3 barks and he settled
down and went to sleep without issue after that. I've not heard a peep from him
since. I'm not sure what to do about this dog.  I've got another person looking
at him tomorrow and I've already told them he was returned due to separation
anxiety. They didn't seem too concerned, but I haven't had a chance to really
talk with them. We'll see.  He's a nice dog, but frankly, he's turning my whole
household on end.  I can't trust him enough with the cats yet to allow him to be
loose if they are in the living areas, so they have to be locked up in our room
if he's not restrained.  When he is restrained, my one cat that he attacked
refuses to come out of our room and now his food has to be back there or he'd
never eat.  I can't let him outside either like he likes because he might be too
far away from safety if the dog goes after him.  I'm not ready to sacrifice my
cats to this dog.  We're also supposed to go visit my sister for Thanksgiving
next Thursday and were going to stay overnight.  Once Kleine was adopted, we had
told my sister we would both be there and now we've got this dog back. I'm
hoping I can figure something out if he doesn't get adopted because I'd really
like my husband to be able to enjoy Thanksgiving with me and the family as
planned. Otherwise he will stay here and take care of them.  My sister will be
really disappointed.....sigh....I'm not feeling very Cesar like right now. 
Assertive calmness is about to take a hike!!

Meg

Hello all,

Nutrition is a very interesting topic for me. I have researched it a bit. I'd
like to chime in if I could.
I think what is MOST important is the quality of the protein and the fact that
the dog food (and cat food) is low on grains. When choosing pet foods I tend to
look for preferably organic or hormone & antibiotic free real meat proteins, no
by-products and preferably no meat meal, although it depends on the quality of
the company it is coming from . I also try and make sure that there are few
grains if any and that they are not in the top third of the ingredient list.
Grains are the biggest sources of things such as allergies, obesity and diabetes
in dogs and cats.

Feeding your dog raw meaty bones can slow down the eating process which gives
the stomach time to get the acids moving to properly digest the food therefore
allowing them to utilize the food properly. If you have a dog that tends to
overeat or eat quickly feeding raw meaty bones will help them slow down and eat
less. This is also important if you have a large breed dog that may be prone to
bloat.

Many times people whose dogs have suffered from skin allergies discover they
disappear shortly after switching to a raw diet.
Personally, I feed raw. There are some very good prepared raw foods or you can
make your own. Cooking food kills the good enzymes that help pets utilize the
nutrition properly.

The only time I would be careful of protein content is obviously with a health
issue such as kidney problems when too much protein can be harmful to the
kidneys.

So that's my two cents.
Be Well,
Jill

WHICH IS WHY YOU ALWAYS GOTTA KEEP A GOOD COLLAR AND LEASH ON GREYHOUNDS (as
well as most other hounds) WHENEVER THEY'RE OUTSIDE A WELL FENCED IN YARD.  Most
Greyhounds won't jump out of a fenced yard (I have never met any) but like she
said, they're sight hounds.

Once a predator sites prey and switches modes, it can't hear anymore ... the
ears become least important, it's all eye (in the case of the greyhounds) or
nose (in the case of scent hounds, basses, beagles, bloodhounds, etc).

Phil in La Habra, ca

Greyhounds have been hit by cars while chasing paper or plastic bage blowing in
the wind just as an example ....

**********************Previous Message*************************

deborahedwards@... wrote:

Hi Becky

Like all breeds the greyhounds have low, medium and high prey
drives. The greyhound also like the pitbull has a personality that is driven to
please their human companion.

My boy had a mid-prey drive and when he first came home he really
wanted to destroy my cats, He was muzzled for the first couple of
weeks to give me time to protect the cats.

It takes a little (weeks) while as he was also learning how to be a
pet not a racing machine along with small fluffies are not lures and
it is really important the cats have access to all of the house so
the greyhound knows they are part of the pack. I had the muzzle off
within 2.5 weeks and had total trust within 6 months - up till then I
had one eye on both till I was satisfied. I work 5 days a week and my
cats knew not to be around him while I wasn't there. Its all happy
families now.

I know of dogs that have NO interest at all in cats or fluffies and
some have been very successful on the track. It all depends on the
personality and prey instinct.

The dogs with the very high prey drives don't tend to make it as
pets and are not put up for adoption.

The one thing as a potential fosterer / forevereverhome you have to
remember is that greyhounds are sight hounds. Three strides they can
achieve 45kmph 5 seconds they are out of earshot. Greyhounds can see
1km away - have eyesight like a raptor. They are the one breed of dog
that WILL catch the cat.

And I will never ever be without one now either - I have never met a
dog that wants to be cuddled - yes full body - head in face cuddle!

Debs, NZ

Since you already got the liquid and a syringe .... here's the "HOW TO"  Works
for dogs from yorkies to danes ...

Put the required amount into the syringe.  Then the easiest way to get the dog
to swallow the fluid medication is to get hold of the bottom of the opposite
side of their jaw (reach across under) and pull their face-chin kinda over to
your leg (either leg that's comfortable and with the aid of perhaps your index
finger on the nad with the syringe open their lips at the back of the mouth
(opposite the side your holding with the other hand ... like left hand has right
lower jaw - right hand places syringe inside left lips).

Get the syringe inside far enough that even with the dog's mouth closed you can
feed the fluid in next to teeth-gums and dog will begin to open mouth and start
licking and swallowing.  YOu don't gotta wrestle their mouths open this way
(like with tablets and capsules).  So actually I find it easier sometimes (if I
can get a good hole of the dogs face) to administor liquid meds.

Give it a go before you switch to tablets so you don't gotta spend more money
needlessly ?

Phil in La Habra, ca.

BTW, the syringe is just a plastic syringe with no tip right ?

**********************Previous Message*************************

"Mary Nellum" <marykins@...> wrote:

I think Sox has a cold, poor thing.

So I stopped the vet's yesterday and asked what to do - they said to give her
benadryl and if she doesn't get better to come in. So I went and bought some and
got a syringe today.

I wasn't quite sure how to do it but I hoped that my inexperience would work in
my favor in that I knew I had to do it and would just get it done - lol!

She did great! I was so proud of both of us :)

Mary

Oh don't tell me the mag is not good.  I just bought a subscription.  I was
hoping there will be good training articles and different situations.  I hope it
isn't all advertisments.  what is someone else's opinion on the mag?


Audra
Go Sabres

So it's just for allergies?

I noticed tonight that Sox doesn't have any "eye boogers". She's had those
ever since she came to live with me. I thought they were just normal but now
I'm wondering if she's allergic to something in the house?

Mary

**********************Previous Message*************************

From: Meg Francoeur
Date: 11/21/2009 8:33:07 PM

Mary,
Diphenhydramine comes in tablets and capsules and often just putting them in
a piece of meat or cheese will do the trick.  25 mg/25 lbs is the usual dose
although I tend to dose on the low side.  I've never heard of it's use for a
respiratory type virus though, only for allergic reactions.

Meg


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I've heard that some shelters and organizations are offering help with pet
food and finding pet friendly rentals (for foreclosed families). I don't
know the names of any of these. You will have to ask your local
organizations. You didn't say what area you or your friend are in, that
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Good luck, Debbie Engle Valinda CA

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On Behalf Of Basketsales
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:28 AM

Hello All,

I was wondering, does anyone know where a dog owner can get food for their
pet when they lose their job?

Humans can go to soup kitchens, homeless shelters, food closets, but what
about our "canine" humans?

A friend lost her job, and wants to feed her dog.  We are really, really
"budgeted" right now, due to economic conditions, so we can't assist.

Anything that would help her feed her dog would be great!

Thanks!

Juli, Jax, and Lady

I'm really happy with this issue -- it's my first (I'm going to see if I can get
hold of the first issue if at all possible!). I agree, Kathy, that I like seeing
which celebrities have dogs (or cats or any kind of pet) and what kind of dog
and I also like reading the quotes. I was happy to see the pictures of Cesar and
his family in the Christmas season -- particularly his love of lighting up his
house. Even though I don't do a lot for lighting up the outside of my house, I
love seeing Christmas lights and live in a rural area where many of the
neighbors go all out and "blanket the countryside" with lights (one person even
lights up three tractors in front of his house)!

I also like the many short articles -- this is truly a magazine intended to
reach a broad spectrum of people on many levels with many interests. It's a
perfect thing to find in places with waiting rooms cause you can read whole
articles in one waiting period. It's also designed, in my opinion, for the
"info-bite" age. Like all the Dorling Kindersley books with lavish illustrations
and small pieces of information spread throughout each page, this magazine cuts
right to the point in our info-heavy, time-starved lifestyles.

So I think it has set itself up to do a specific thing -- and does it really
well.

Just my weird conceptualizations at work here! :)

Jackie, Eve and the Cat Pack



-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy McKenzie <kathy@...>
To: DogWhispererFans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2009 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: [DogWhispererFans] Got my Winter 2010 issue! (I'm a subscriber)




Yeah, I don't mind the celeb stuff so much - it's fun to see who
owns what sort of dogs, and who also seems to have a clue about how to
handle their dogs. I have a lovely book here of celebs with their horses.
Very impressed that Eva Mendes has a Malinois.

Kathy and Her Pack

Jet - 13 year old GSD mix.
Kikka Blue - 2.5 Year Old GSD - CGC, Registered Therapy Dog.
My Fancy Hannah - 3 Year Old GSD.
Chloe - 7 Year Old French Bulldog Rescue.







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks! That's a great idea and I'll definitely incorporate it the next time
we get out! I really appreciate the suggestion too - that's exactly what I'm
looking for when I post - for someone to look at what I did with experienced
eyes :)

Thanks again!
Mary

Got this from another list - thought it might be of help for you and/or your
friend.

Mary

1)  approach your local pet food place, where you purchase your pet food.
Ask them if they would be willing to donate to you broken bags of food---not
salable, nothing wrong, just got a tear in the bag when it ws unloaded from
the truck.
2)  Ask about returned bags of food.  Many people return bags.  Nothin wrong
with them, their dog simply doesn't like the food.
3)  If you have a service/therapy dog, go to the big chains:  Ask if they
would be willing to donate a bag of food per month and if a groomer would be
willing to donate services
once per month.

In exchange---offer to be at all "events' and hand out business cards,
coupons, ect.  And, have a patch made for your cape that says "My dog's food
is Provided by >>>>Pet food Store.

I do this, and it works great!  I know sometimes it take courage to ask...

Also, PETSMART/BANFIELD offers, per store, 5 free basic wellness packages to
clients in neeed.  You might ask if this is available.  It wil cover the
cost of vaccines and such.  Sometimes it is overbooked, but it can't hurt to
ask.

You could also ask the same of your vet.

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Hi: Thanks for the imput. As it turns out a gal I work with does greyhound
rescue. She's taking in 5 of these dogs and has 2 already. I'm going to go meet
them next week - see what I'm getting myself into. She also has cats - one of
her rescues was a cat chaser but was trained out of it. My cats already run the
house - so much for "pack leadership" I try - but in their eyes, dogs are mere
things that need to be kept in their places. I've told Kit about my menagerie
and she said she'd make sure I got one that would fit in. You know - there are
some things you just can't turn your head and ignore. The needless deaths of
1500 greyhounds is one of them. I have a Jack Russell and and Aussie x - they
are delightful, loving, fun, definitely keep me on my toes - and I wouldn't live
without them. I've never thought of havng a greyhound - but I never thought I'd
have a Jack Russell either. I've missed a lot of Cesars shows - work gets in the
way - but do you know
  if he has ever done a show where a greyhound was involved?
Thanks..Becky

Thanks Phil,

Tyoga does very well on some days and I have tried new things to distract.  When
he is ready to pounce on the cat I shake a plastic bottle with pennies in it. 
IT WORKS!  for now.  Also,  I got him to come in the house now..With ham. 
Whatever works and then gradually wean off the ham  Today I got Tyoga to bring a
stick back to me..yea!  I traded him the stick and he got treat.  Again it
works!  I will go on from there and remove food.  I see more and more
progression.  Some set backs but I will move forward.


Audra
Go Sabres

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i am a little disappointed in the first 2 issues. this 2nd one seems like a
tabloid magazine to me. I am hoping they improve.

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HI Meg
 
I loved reading your 'adventures" with you new sumo-husky. Well, I give your
hubby a double thumbs up, sometimes all you need is a little "back up" and
support and you can conquer the world.
 
IF anyone can help this dog, it is YOU especially if you have hubbys
support...You will have to be hyper aware of that snapping husky mouth and allow
your cats to give him a few good "swipes" as a deterent....and I think all with
be fine.
 
I have an 8 month old black lab pup here right now who has never been "educated"
in polite canine behaviour, luckily my boarder Shitzu has told her off a few
times and helped me keep her energy under control.  Tony ( my partner) is also
stepping up his corrections and calm assertive direction to help out...BOY, I
forgot just how energetic lab pups can be...(think Marley and Me)  Dango is
limping badly after playing with her. (his ACL is acting up again) so he's out
of commission.
 
Hang in there, and see it through....Good luck , Lori Reynolds

Grateful Stride Pet Sitting www.gratefulstride.com
Lori Reynolds & Tony Allison 905-465-9409
Insured professionals lori@...

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Mary,
Diphenhydramine comes in tablets and capsules and often just putting them in a
piece of meat or cheese will do the trick.  25 mg/25 lbs is the usual dose
although I tend to dose on the low side.  I've never heard of it's use for a
respiratory type virus though, only for allergic reactions.


                                                                                        
Meg

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We've had a breakthrough with Meru's seperation anxiety. She's currently in
the bedroom (I'm in the lounge) chewing a bone and its her choice to stay
there!

Its all down to Cesar's new book and me realising a look is far more
important that I thought it was! I've been keeping eye contact longer when
needed, not just a glance and its really helped.

Before today, even with the nicest, smellyest treat in the bedroom, Meru
would either try and bring it with her or just leave it and come lay by me.

I'm so proud of both of us, we have both made great progress today!

Thank you Cesar!

Liz (south east UK)
Troy, Ezri & Meru

Hi Sox - I hope you feel better soon...
Sniffing too many leaves?
Could just be an allergy thing, I hope.
Mary, FYI - you can get 25 mg Benadryl pills and give that to Sox, rather than
the messy liquid.
Sox is big and can deal with the pill form.
Just a little tip from Marie....

Marie Peppers / ask the Pet nurse

http://www.allexperts.com/ep/3721-98627/Alternative-Medicine-Pets/Marie-Peppers-\
Nature.htm

I think you are DOING WELL with Tyoga.  I (and most others prob'ly) COMPLETELY
UNDERSTAND life happens no matter what your intentions are for your canine
companion.  Dark, cold, too early, sore, ill, achy, just don' wanna and the list
goes on.

I believe the quality of the time you spend with your dog and your state of mind
and what you actually accomplish means far more that just takin' the dog out and
gettin' pulled up and down the street for an hour and tellin' everybody how much
exercise you and your dog got.

So .... WELL DONE AGAIN Audra !!!

Phil in La Habra, CA

Yeah, I don't mind the celeb stuff so much - it's fun to see who
owns what sort of dogs, and who also seems to have a clue about how to
handle their dogs. I have a lovely book here of celebs with their horses.
     Very impressed that Eva Mendes has a Malinois.

                 Kathy and Her Pack

Jet - 13 year old GSD mix.
Kikka Blue - 2.5 Year Old GSD - CGC, Registered Therapy Dog.
My Fancy Hannah - 3 Year Old GSD.
Chloe - 7 Year Old French Bulldog Rescue.

Hi Becky

	 Like all breeds the greyhounds have low, medium and high prey
drives. The greyhound also like the pitbull has a personality that is
driven to please their human companion.

	 My boy had a mid-prey drive and when he first came home he really
wanted to destroy my cats, He was muzzled for the first couple of
weeks to give me time to protect the cats.

	 It takes a little (weeks) while as he was also learning how to be a
pet not a racing machine along with small fluffies are not lures and
it is really important the cats have access to all of the house so
the greyhound knows they are part of the pack. I had the muzzle off
within 2.5 weeks and had total trust within 6 months - up till then I
had one eye on both till I was satisfied. I work 5 days a week and my
cats knew not to be around him while I wasn't there. Its all happy
families now.

	 I know of dogs that have NO interest at all in cats or fluffies and
some have been very successful on the track. It all depends on the
personality and prey instinct.

	 The dogs with the very high prey drives don't tend to make it as
pets and are not put up for adoption.

	 The one thing as a potential fosterer / forevereverhome you have to
remember is that greyhounds are sight hounds. Three strides they can
achieve 45kmph 5 seconds they are out of earshot. Greyhounds can see
1km away - have eyesight like a raptor. They are the one breed of dog
that WILL catch the cat.

	 And I will never ever be without one now either - I have never met a
dog that wants to be cuddled - yes full body - head in face cuddle!

	 Debs, NZ