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<P>Domestic dogs are genetically indistinguishable from wild canines. The same
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processed foods meal after meal, and not allowing appropriate exercise and time
out of doors. As a result, we condemn companion animals to the cruel epidemic of
chronic degenerative diseases, including obesity, dental disease, arthritis,
skin and coat disorders, eye problems, heart, vascular, kidney, liver, and
pancreatic diseases, and a shortened and less hearty life.</P>
<P align=left>The solution is not difficult. Do for them what you do for
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My 4 year old male Digger had a very red nose & feet last night. He didn't seem
to have a fever, but was acting odd when I checked on them for the night. I have
never seen this with any of my other ferrets. His feet & nose seem to be bright
red. He has been a little lifeless the past few day's. I called the vet & they
will take him in later this week, Today his color is normal, but still kind of
on the lifeless side. He's eating good & his stools look good. Can Ferrets have
high blood pressure??
Digger & Raven are my newest take ins. I have only had them for about a month
now. Up till yesterday he seemed fine. I do think Digger is older then what I
was told when I took him.
I would appreciate any input anyone has on this, just so I get a good idea on
what to ask the vet. Thanks JC & Gang

Hi marcy,
I'd love to see the article on melatonin, I didn't know it could be used as a
preventative.  I went through adrenal disease with one ferret already and hate
thinking my other one might get it.
Thanks!

-Ashley

--- In Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com, DolphinTrainer <marci1111@...> wrote:
>
> well, ferretone implants are just melatonin (which you can buy over the
counter).  I give all my ferrets 1mg of it a day since a study was done that
produced significant findings that ferrets administered the 1mg of melatonin a
day had better odds of not getting adreand disease vs. the ones that don't get
it.  My boys now are 6 and to not have the disease.  However I did rescue a 8 yr
old female ferret who was completely bald and suffered from adrenal disease. 
She was to old to have the surgery and I immedaiately started her on melatonin. 
She regrew all her hair back, but unfortunately once they get the disease, the
implant or melatonin does not stop the disease, it just masks it.  So
cosmetically the ferret looks good.
>
> The key is to start them on it before they get the disease.  Let me know if
you'd like more info on this I can find the research article if needed.  If you
decide to give the melatonin daily to your ferrets then you have to do it at a
certain time everyday (depending on the rise/fall of the sun)...The implant is
less hassle if you want to spend the money.
>
> Marcy
>
> --- On Fri, 10/2/09, chikkie_1 <chikkie_1@...> wrote:
>
> > From: chikkie_1 <chikkie_1@...>
> > Subject: [Ferret-Health-list] fertones
> > To: Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 9:28 PM
> > Hi i have 8 ferrets and three of them
> > have adrinal gland dis. Iwas wondering if the fertone
> > inplants really help them with a longer life spans. The rest
> > of them are well and in good health.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > � � mailto:Ferret-Health-list-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
>

well, ferretone implants are just melatonin (which you can buy over the
counter).  I give all my ferrets 1mg of it a day since a study was done that
produced significant findings that ferrets administered the 1mg of melatonin a
day had better odds of not getting adreand disease vs. the ones that don't get
it.  My boys now are 6 and to not have the disease.  However I did rescue a 8 yr
old female ferret who was completely bald and suffered from adrenal disease. 
She was to old to have the surgery and I immedaiately started her on melatonin. 
She regrew all her hair back, but unfortunately once they get the disease, the
implant or melatonin does not stop the disease, it just masks it.  So
cosmetically the ferret looks good.

The key is to start them on it before they get the disease.  Let me know if
you'd like more info on this I can find the research article if needed.  If you
decide to give the melatonin daily to your ferrets then you have to do it at a
certain time everyday (depending on the rise/fall of the sun)...The implant is
less hassle if you want to spend the money.

Marcy

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, chikkie_1 <chikkie_1@...> wrote:

> From: chikkie_1 <chikkie_1@...>
> Subject: [Ferret-Health-list] fertones
> To: Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 9:28 PM
> Hi i have 8 ferrets and three of them
> have adrinal gland dis. Iwas wondering if the fertone
> inplants really help them with a longer life spans. The rest
> of them are well and in good health.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> � � mailto:Ferret-Health-list-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>

Hi i have 8 ferrets and three of them have adrinal gland dis. Iwas wondering if
the fertone inplants really help them with a longer life spans. The rest of them
are well and in good health.

Hello,

Will prednisone help an enlarged/inflammed spleen?  A vet put my ferret on it
for a couple of weeks because she found on his x-rays that the spleen is
extremely enlarged.  After doing some research, I'm assuming that its enlarged
due to fighting the ECE Virus 2 years ago.  Anyways, he has refused to eat on
his own since I started him on prednisone, and I'm wondering if I should stop it
(Especially reading that prednisone should be only given with food.....  Any
advice?

Hello,

Has anyone dealt with frequent urination in ferrets?  I have appx. a 6 year old
male ferret who will frequently urinate small amounts appx 4/5 times after
waking up.  I have just noticed this recently when he started leaving urine in
small spots all over the place...even though he is littered train. Could this be
a UTI?  He is very normal besides that...not out of character at all...has put
on weight (but usually does this time of year for the winter months coming up). 
I was thinking about starting him on Amoxicillin and seeing if it resolves the
problem, but if it was a UTI wouldn't there be blood in his urine by this time? 
He appears to be in no pain.  Please let me know if you have any idea what this
could be.

Thanks

Thank you for the links.  I hope I am not reinfecting my ferret!  I will get
tested to rule that ut and start eating yogurt.

Thanks again,

Tara

--- In Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com, Vicki Montgomery <ferretfrenzy@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> There have been several people on different forums asking about recurrent or
prolonged diarreah infections in their ferrets, even after initial treatments.
>  
> Some of these ferrets with diarreah have been diagnosed with Insulinoma which
disease causes or contributes to chronic diarreah no matter what steps are taken
to quell the condition.
>  
> One person has also provided a bacteria infection diagnosis of clostridium. I
find this bacterial infection particularily interesting.
>  
> I looked-up information about this bacteria and found that it is carried in
both humans and animals - not normally, but when one becomes infected it can be
challenging to clear one's bowels of the spores. When all of the spores are not
killed reinfection and another bout of diarreah occurs.
>  
> http://textbookofbacteriology.net/clostridia.html
>
>  
> http://www.gihealth.com/html/education/printable/printCdifficileRecurrent.html
>  
> The second link listed provides some ideas of alternative treatments -
probiotics being one. If your ferret(s) is(are) experiencing prolonged or
recurrent diarreah you might want to have yourself tested at some point or take
some probiotics yourself. While these infections may be occuring/reoccuring from
only one ferret it can spread and if the ferret(s) is cleared of the bacteria
and you have it in your bowel system it is possible that you (any person coming
in contact with these ferrets) are infecting/reinfecting them.
>  
> Just a thought...
>  
> Vicki
>
> Vicki Montgomery
> Tricks and Treats Rescue
> Greater Houston/Galveston Texas
> 713-472-6599  ferretfrenzy@...
>  
> "Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will
not himself find peace." ~ Dr. Albert Schweitzer
>
> --- On Tue, 9/29/09, tlelmore72 <tlelmore@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: tlelmore72 <tlelmore@...>
> Subject: [Ferret-Health-list] ferret with diarrhea
> To: Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 11:23 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone has encountered this-
>
> My ferret Slinky (5 year old, male, albino) has been having chronic issues
with diarrhea and I'm at my wit's end…
>
> Nov 2008- I took him to the vet for vomiting and diarrhea. The vet said the
level of clostridium was too high, and he was given an antibiotic and probiotic
which cleared everything up for awhile. Since then he has reoccurring diarrhea-
same diagnosis and treatment with same results. The diarrhea clears up for a bit
(a few days, a week, maybe a month), then comes back. At 1st he was given
amoxicillin, then clavamox.
>
> Friday evening, Sept 18, Slinky began vomiting and could not stop. Then the
diarrhea started. We rushed him to an emergency vet where he stayed overnight on
an IV. He was dehydrated and his body temp was low. Blood tests showed that he
wasn't expelling CO2 properly. The ER Vet said that could be b/c of shallow
breathing (since he was in pain) or pneumonia, lymphoma, fluid on lungs- any #
of things, but he would need an x-ray to be able to tell. Saturday morning I
took him to his regular vet. X-rays and more blood tests were run. Everything
came back fine- no blockages, no tumors, no signs of cancer, pneumonia, etc. His
BW was back to normal. No one was able to say why he started vomiting, but he
was put on metronidazole and probiotics. By Saturday afternoon, Slinky was
running around as though he had never been sick.
>
> We finished up with the metronidazole this past Saturday morning (Sept 26),
and yesterday the loose stools were back. I called my vet, and Slinky will have
to take more antibiotics again.
>
> This is the 8th time since Nov 2008 that I have had to put him on antibiotics.
I asked the vet why this keeps reoccurring and she doesn't know but is looking
into it.
>
> I keep his toys clean, and Slinky shares his space and food with 3 other
ferrets who have not had any problems. Slinky also takes .3 ml of prednisone for
allergies (to what, I have no idea. His skin gets very dry and itchy and the vet
said he appeared to be allergic to something). He has been tested for adrenal
and insulinoma- both came back negative.
>
> So- has anyone else dealt with this? Any suggestions, recommendations, ideas,
thoughts?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tara Elmore
>

That makes sense.  So far, each round of antibiotics has only been prescribed
for 7- 10 days.  I will pass this info on to his vet.

Thank you,

Tara

--- In Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com, "leanneb39" <leanneb39@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com, "tlelmore72" <tlelmore@> wrote:
> Prolonged diarrhea is cause for concern.  My take on your situation is the if
the diarrhea clears up for awhile after treatment the cause can simply be Slinky
is not being treated long enough.  From my understanding a infection like
that/possible infection should be treated a minimum of 21 days in a row.  Hence
why you could be seeing re-occuring boughts after treatment ends.
> My HO from experience.
> >
> > Wondering if anyone has encountered this-
> >
> > My ferret Slinky (5 year old, male, albino) has been having chronic issues
with diarrhea and I'm at my wit's end�
> >
> > Nov 2008- I took him to the vet for vomiting and diarrhea.  The vet said the
level of clostridium was too high, and he was given an antibiotic and probiotic
which cleared everything up for awhile.  Since then he has reoccurring diarrhea-
same diagnosis and treatment with same results.  The diarrhea clears up for a
bit (a few days, a week, maybe a month), then comes back.  At 1st he was given
amoxicillin, then clavamox.
> >
> > Friday evening, Sept 18, Slinky began vomiting and could not stop.  Then the
diarrhea started.  We rushed him to an emergency vet where he stayed overnight
on an IV.  He was dehydrated and his body temp was low.  Blood tests showed that
he wasn't expelling CO2 properly.  The ER Vet said that could be b/c of shallow
breathing (since he was in pain) or pneumonia, lymphoma, fluid on lungs- any #
of things, but he would need an x-ray to be able to tell.  Saturday morning I
took him to his regular vet.  X-rays and more blood tests were run.  Everything
came back fine- no blockages, no tumors, no signs of cancer, pneumonia, etc. 
His BW was back to normal.  No one was able to say why he started vomiting, but
he was put on metronidazole and probiotics.  By Saturday afternoon, Slinky was
running around as though he had never been sick.
> >
> > We finished up with the metronidazole this past Saturday morning (Sept 26),
and yesterday the loose stools were back.  I called my vet, and Slinky will have
to take more antibiotics again.
> >
> > This is the 8th time since Nov 2008 that I have had to put him on
antibiotics.  I asked the vet why this keeps reoccurring and she doesn't know
but is looking into it.
> >
> > I keep his toys clean, and Slinky shares his space and food with 3 other
ferrets who have not had any problems.  Slinky also takes .3 ml of prednisone
for allergies (to what, I have no idea.  His skin gets very dry and itchy and
the vet said he appeared to be allergic to something).  He has been tested for
adrenal and insulinoma- both came back negative.
> >
> > So- has anyone else dealt with this?  Any suggestions, recommendations,
ideas, thoughts?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Tara Elmore
> >
>

--- In Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com, "tlelmore72" <tlelmore@...> wrote:
Prolonged diarrhea is cause for concern.  My take on your situation is the if
the diarrhea clears up for awhile after treatment the cause can simply be Slinky
is not being treated long enough.  From my understanding a infection like
that/possible infection should be treated a minimum of 21 days in a row.  Hence
why you could be seeing re-occuring boughts after treatment ends.
My HO from experience.
>
> Wondering if anyone has encountered this-
>
> My ferret Slinky (5 year old, male, albino) has been having chronic issues
with diarrhea and I'm at my wit's end�
>
> Nov 2008- I took him to the vet for vomiting and diarrhea.  The vet said the
level of clostridium was too high, and he was given an antibiotic and probiotic
which cleared everything up for awhile.  Since then he has reoccurring diarrhea-
same diagnosis and treatment with same results.  The diarrhea clears up for a
bit (a few days, a week, maybe a month), then comes back.  At 1st he was given
amoxicillin, then clavamox.
>
> Friday evening, Sept 18, Slinky began vomiting and could not stop.  Then the
diarrhea started.  We rushed him to an emergency vet where he stayed overnight
on an IV.  He was dehydrated and his body temp was low.  Blood tests showed that
he wasn't expelling CO2 properly.  The ER Vet said that could be b/c of shallow
breathing (since he was in pain) or pneumonia, lymphoma, fluid on lungs- any #
of things, but he would need an x-ray to be able to tell.  Saturday morning I
took him to his regular vet.  X-rays and more blood tests were run.  Everything
came back fine- no blockages, no tumors, no signs of cancer, pneumonia, etc. 
His BW was back to normal.  No one was able to say why he started vomiting, but
he was put on metronidazole and probiotics.  By Saturday afternoon, Slinky was
running around as though he had never been sick.
>
> We finished up with the metronidazole this past Saturday morning (Sept 26),
and yesterday the loose stools were back.  I called my vet, and Slinky will have
to take more antibiotics again.
>
> This is the 8th time since Nov 2008 that I have had to put him on antibiotics.
I asked the vet why this keeps reoccurring and she doesn't know but is looking
into it.
>
> I keep his toys clean, and Slinky shares his space and food with 3 other
ferrets who have not had any problems.  Slinky also takes .3 ml of prednisone
for allergies (to what, I have no idea.  His skin gets very dry and itchy and
the vet said he appeared to be allergic to something).  He has been tested for
adrenal and insulinoma- both came back negative.
>
> So- has anyone else dealt with this?  Any suggestions, recommendations, ideas,
thoughts?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tara Elmore
>

Wondering if anyone has encountered this-

My ferret Slinky (5 year old, male, albino) has been having chronic issues with
diarrhea and I'm at my wit's end�

Nov 2008- I took him to the vet for vomiting and diarrhea.  The vet said the
level of clostridium was too high, and he was given an antibiotic and probiotic
which cleared everything up for awhile.  Since then he has reoccurring diarrhea-
same diagnosis and treatment with same results.  The diarrhea clears up for a
bit (a few days, a week, maybe a month), then comes back.  At 1st he was given
amoxicillin, then clavamox.

Friday evening, Sept 18, Slinky began vomiting and could not stop.  Then the
diarrhea started.  We rushed him to an emergency vet where he stayed overnight
on an IV.  He was dehydrated and his body temp was low.  Blood tests showed that
he wasn't expelling CO2 properly.  The ER Vet said that could be b/c of shallow
breathing (since he was in pain) or pneumonia, lymphoma, fluid on lungs- any #
of things, but he would need an x-ray to be able to tell.  Saturday morning I
took him to his regular vet.  X-rays and more blood tests were run.  Everything
came back fine- no blockages, no tumors, no signs of cancer, pneumonia, etc. 
His BW was back to normal.  No one was able to say why he started vomiting, but
he was put on metronidazole and probiotics.  By Saturday afternoon, Slinky was
running around as though he had never been sick.

We finished up with the metronidazole this past Saturday morning (Sept 26), and
yesterday the loose stools were back.  I called my vet, and Slinky will have to
take more antibiotics again.

This is the 8th time since Nov 2008 that I have had to put him on antibiotics. 
I asked the vet why this keeps reoccurring and she doesn't know but is looking
into it.

I keep his toys clean, and Slinky shares his space and food with 3 other ferrets
who have not had any problems.  Slinky also takes .3 ml of prednisone for
allergies (to what, I have no idea.  His skin gets very dry and itchy and the
vet said he appeared to be allergic to something).  He has been tested for
adrenal and insulinoma- both came back negative.

So- has anyone else dealt with this?  Any suggestions, recommendations, ideas,
thoughts?

Thank you,

Tara Elmore