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RE: [GPA101Genetics] Re: lilac-breasted male?

Hi Valarie,

From what I read I believe that you are not the breeder of this bird. Do you know how he was housed?

From looking at him he could be slightly melanistic. This would account for the uneven colour, and the blue sheen, in his breast and I would expect it to moult out at his next moult. Apart from that he looks like what I would term a “bad white breast” This is a white breast that has retained some colour. I would not call him a lilac breast as I prefer, and believe the true lilac breast mutation should have a darker even colour as shown in the photo from Tiffany.

There are many variations in breast colour (and indeed the lilac breast comes in several shades of colour but must be darker and more even than your boy) but not many “True” mutations. Only time will tell with your boy. I would not make any decision until he has moulted.

Kind regards

James

 

From: GPA101Genetics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GPA101Genetics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of valmilazzo
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Subject: [GPA101Genetics] Re: lilac-breasted male?

 




Hi James, yes you are right - it is so hard to get an accurate photo. His actual color is most similar to the third photo, where the bird in question is to the right of the molting blue female (Zerlina Porgy). Your evaluation would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Valarie

--- In GPA101Genetics@yahoogroups.com, "James " <zabadak@...> wrote:
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> I Valarie,
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> In each of the three photos your bird shows a different breast colour. I
> realize that this is probably to do with the position when photographed and
> the use, or not, of the flash. Could you please tell us which photo is
> closest to his coulour in normal light.
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> Regards
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> James
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>
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> From: GPA101Genetics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GPA101Genetics@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of valmilazzo
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:55 AM
> To: GPA101Genetics@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [GPA101Genetics] lilac-breasted male?
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> Hello, I wonder if you experts out there can share an opinion about my new
> black head male? Silvio has an unusual colored breast (see photo album
> "lilac breast?"). It is much paler than a male purple breast, but not as
> pink as a female purple breast. It is not a uniform color -somewhat blotched
> with white, and the lower edge on his right side is darker. Do you think he
> is a lilac-breast? Could he be something more unusual?
>
> Silvio's father is a black head, white breast, normal back possibly split to
> blue. His mother is a black head, purple breast, normal back. This breeding
> pair are closely related - father and daughter to each other. (They chose
> each other from among several other options, according to the breeder). I am
> told that in previous clutches, this (very prolific) pair had one other son
> with a solid-colored lilac breast. They have also had at least one
> blue-backed offspring. Silvio's brother Porgy is shown with him in one
> photo. When I first bought Porgy his breast was a more intense blue color
> than my other purple-breasted birds. With his last molt, it has become more
> typical looking though. Any ideas/explanations would be appreciated!
> Valarie
>



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Hello, I wonder if you experts out there can share an opinion about my new black head male? Silvio has an unusual colored breast (see photo album "lilac...
valmilazzo
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Jun 7, 2009
6:59 pm

I Valarie, In each of the three photos your bird shows a different breast colour. I realize that this is probably to do with the position when photographed and...
James
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Jun 8, 2009
1:50 am

Hi James, yes you are right - it is so hard to get an accurate photo. His actual color is most similar to the third photo, where the bird in question is to...
valmilazzo
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Jun 8, 2009
5:30 pm

Hi Valarie, I'm wondering how old is this male in question? In the first two photos, it looks like Bad White Breast; or sort of like a partially molted breast,...
Tiffany Park
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Jun 8, 2009
7:59 pm

Valarie, On second thought - looking at the third photo again, I realized I think the OH bird in the background is a Hen. I was looking at it initially...
Tiffany Park
nixitee
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Jun 8, 2009
7:59 pm

Hi Valarie, From what I read I believe that you are not the breeder of this bird. Do you know how he was housed? From looking at him he could be slightly...
James
gouldianau
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Jun 10, 2009
2:57 am

Hi James - and Tiffany I will answer your question also... I appreciate all your expertise! This bird is only about 7 months old and has recently completed...
valmilazzo
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Jun 11, 2009
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