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BLUE and PARBLUE mutations are not ALLELES in REDRUMP   Message List  
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Hello all,
 
Since three years I'm working with "EUROPEAN BLUE", the TURQUOISE PARBLUE mutation in REDRUMP and the "AUSTRALIAN BLUE", the TRUE BLUE mutation...
 
With many pairs I may confirm at present time they are TWO DIFFERENT MUTATIONS...
 
Some examples of breeding results :
 
OPALINE TURQUOISE cock x OPALINE BLUE female : 2 OPALINE GREEN offsprings
 
BLUE cock x CREMINO female : 2 GREEN offsprings
 
PALLIDINO BLUE cock split OPALINE x TURQUOISE COBALT split BLUE female :
GREEN offsprings also in PALLID, in INO (LUTINO), in PALLID OPALINE
TURQUOISE offsprings also in PALLID, in INO (CREMINO)
BLUE offsprings also in COBALT, in INO (ALBINO)
 
Did other breeders tests the mating BLUE x TURQUOISE in REDRUMP ?
 
Kind regards

Thierry
Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:38 pm

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Hello all, Since three years I'm working with "EUROPEAN BLUE", the TURQUOISE PARBLUE mutation in REDRUMP and the "AUSTRALIAN BLUE", the TRUE BLUE mutation... ... 		Thierry DULIERE
dudule_2001
Offline Send Email 		Jul 15, 2009
11:38 pm

Possibly this may be true for IRNs. I have just bred an aqua female to Blue male and all my young are green in colour. Nigam...
nigam_65
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8:11 am

Or maybe they still are alleles. Remember the findings in Agapornis. Regards Peter Wouters ... From: nigam_65 To: Genetics-Psittacine@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
Peter Wouters
wouters_peter
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5:33 pm

Hello Nigam, Can you send us a picture of the birds? Normally the offspring of aqua and blue (as alleles)gives hetero allelomorphic (AquaBlue) phenotype. If...
Andre van der Voorn
bva118
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8:44 pm

I never hear about any parblue in Agapornis not allele to the others! ... -- Emam MCSA MCSE I never hear about any parblue in Agapornis not allele to the...
XP 2600
emam42
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11:12 pm

Will post on week end. Thanks Nigam ... From: XP 2600 <XP2600@...> Subject: Re: [Genetics-Psittacine] Re: BLUE and PARBLUE mutations are not ALLELES in...
Nigam Pandya
nigam_65
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4:02 am

Peter,   Sorry! could not send the photos sooner as my monitor had conked off. Here we go with photos of hen first. Pair and young will follow as it takes a...
Nigam Pandya
nigam_65
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10:06 am

Friends, would like to know from the group members what bird i have. Please comment on the basis of the photos.   Thanks.   Nigam ... From: Nigam Pandya...
Nigam Pandya
nigam_65
Offline Send Email 		Aug 22, 2009
4:41 am

Hi Nigam, The original topic was the green offspring from Blue X aqua. Can you compile the pictures for us.Please sent us again the pictures off the green...
bva118
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12:33 pm

Andre Vander Voorn,Thierry Duliere, Peter, Stephene Tin Tin and all other group members,  Sorry, somehow my last message has not gone through. I still do not...
Nigam Pandya
nigam_65
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10:20 am

Violet?, Misty? ... -- Emam MCSA MCSE Violet?, Misty? On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Nigam Pandya < nigam_65@... > wrote:   [ Attachment(s) from...
XP 2600
emam42
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11:01 pm

Peter,   Here we go with some more pics. Pair and Young with hen an one more photo of hen.   Regards.   Nigam ... From: XP 2600 <XP2600@...> Subject:...
Nigam Pandya
nigam_65
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10:13 am

Hello all I observe this particular aspect of genetic ONLY IN REDRUMP, and I used breeding results from 3 pairs before to assess this information ! Regards ...
Thierry DULIERE
dudule_2001
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6:24 pm

Yes I know. This is something I just wanted to share with the group. It should be in no way considred to be any scientific or established fact. May be  just...
Nigam Pandya
nigam_65
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4:04 am

Andre, It is my understanding that the AquaTurquoise in Roseicolli is rather greenish instead of an intermediate phenotype. There is also a mention on Dirk's...
Peter Wouters
wouters_peter
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4:23 am

Hello Peter, You're right,we have the heteroallelomorphic type in Agapornis,that's the normal situation. But what I have understand from the messages of...
Andre van der Voorn
bva118
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6:59 am

I was really surprise the first time but at present time, I observe the breeding results with three pairs and many clutches... ... From: Andre van der Voorn ...
Thierry DULIERE
dudule_2001
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7:51 am

... Allan Macdonald <asplandbird@...> ________________________________ From: Thierry DULIERE <ThierryDULIERE@...> To:...
Allan Macdonald
asplandbird
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2:04 pm

Lol, guys i think we got it a little out of focus, i think my point me and some mates here, is when it happen in Agapornis ?! we never see any two parblues not...
XP 2600
emam42
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10:33 pm

Allan, May be in the first pair I may be distuirb by the dark factor but one of the three breeding results come from OPALINE TURQUOISE x OPALINE BLUE and the...
Thierry DULIERE
dudule_2001
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2:14 pm

Hello, in my breeding I observe only this fact with REDRUMP... Not with agapornis were they are according to my experiences alleles ... Previously with redrump...
Thierry DULIERE
dudule_2001
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11:20 pm

Hello Thierry and Nigam, But how about the colour under the wings,differs this in compare to normal greens? Kind regards, André van der Voorn ... From:...
Andre van der Voorn
bva118
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