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Are you going to wear that to the veg fest next year? A "stocking cap lady" pin would look good on it.

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From: greengargantula

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:33 PM

Subject: [HRNChat] Awesome t- Shirt

http://store.foodfightgrocery.com/cubufofish.html

Hope the link works.

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#12119

From: "Carol Youngclaus" <cly@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Problem with Gracie

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I'm not Nicole but I work with her so I know Gracie is okay. Whew!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: Emily Leung <eslocombe@...>

Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:07:06 -0500

To: <HRNChat@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [HRNChat] Re: Problem with Gracie

NICOLE!!! update please! I am so worried

#12118

From: Emily Leung <eslocombe@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Problem with Gracie

katmai_df

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NICOLE!!! update please! I am so worried

#12117

From: "greengargantula" <greengargantula@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:33 am
Subject: Awesome t- Shirt

greengargantula

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http://store.foodfightgrocery.com/cubufofish.html

Hope the link works.

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#12116

From: tantamama@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:04 am
Subject: Re: Re: Problem with Gracie

tantamama3000

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the rice sock is a neat trick!

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From: revelling_rabbit <weebitoblarney@...>
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:41 pm
Subject: [HRNChat] Re: Problem with Gracie

If you don't have a special pet warming pad, we learned from an ER Vet that a sock filled w/rice, then heated in the micorwave, works much better than hot water bottles. As the water bottle cools, it takes heat away from the bun. It just so happens I had long, winter, thigh high socks which worked out great for wrapping around our bun. But be careful not to burn the bun with an overheated sock.

--- In HRNChat@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa Barlow Lyons" <melissa_barlow@...> wrote:
>
> Nicole,
> Do you have anything else you can try, another favorite treat, maybe parsley
> and kale or something like that? It could be gas even if her stomach does not
> feel bloated. It would not hurt to try baby Gas X. Try giving her some extra
> TLC, keep her warm, and encourage her to drink some water. Do you ahve any
> canned pumpkin or anything else you can offer?
> Melissa
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:50:08 PM EST
> From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
> To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HRNChat] Problem with Gracie
>
> Hi,
>
> Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just
> noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his
> tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and
> has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her
> stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am
> to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me
> to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help.
> Nanciel8@...
>
> Thanks, Nicole.
>

#12115

From: ssperkins03312@...
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:51 am
Subject: Re: Unusual behavior with Toasted Marshmallow

smuzetta

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You have me laughing again, a "bunny finger", as I can almost picture it~ Hahahahaha

Suzy

#12114

From: "Karen DeGroat" <rabbits8@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: Unusual behavior with Toasted Marshmallow

pruplerock69

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Thanks, I agree, and now I don't have to worry.

--- In HRNChat@yahoogroups.com, "LJ Massey" <lists@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a form of the bunny finger.
>
> > Yes, Oliver does it all the time to show I am upset and want to be left
> > alone now. I haven't ever seen it in Ms. Marlo. But she has more direct
> > ways of protesting anyways.
> >
> >> My kids do that pose, post thump mood. Rolo and foster Ginny...
> >>
> >> Karen DeGroat wrote:
> >> > I have never seen this behavior with any of my rabbits. He is on his
> >> belly with his legs tucked under him as he does when when he relaxes,
> >> but he is holding his tail up in the air. He is not acting gasy, he is
> >> eating and pooping. He seemed very stressed when I just groomed
> >> (brushed) him, though. I don't know why he is holding his tail up in
> >> the air. If I had to tell someone else what I thought this behavior is
> >> I would have no idea what to say other than it seems like he is
> >> holding his tail that way for some reason. I am more perplexed than
> >> worried. I have to go to the calling hours today and funeral tomorrow
> >> for my cousin who died on Tuesday, so I will be away from the house a
> >> lot today and tomorrow. He does have eye crusties which he is being
> >> treated for (it is going around the rabbits), but he does not have
> >> nose crusties or anything else going on that worries me.
>

#12113

From: "LJ Massey" <lists@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: Unusual behavior with Toasted Marshmallow

pqwabbit

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Sounds like a form of the bunny finger.

> Yes, Oliver does it all the time to show I am upset and want to be left
> alone now. I haven't ever seen it in Ms. Marlo. But she has more direct
> ways of protesting anyways.
>
>> My kids do that pose, post thump mood. Rolo and foster Ginny...
>>
>> Karen DeGroat wrote:
>> > I have never seen this behavior with any of my rabbits. He is on his
>> belly with his legs tucked under him as he does when when he relaxes,
>> but he is holding his tail up in the air. He is not acting gasy, he is
>> eating and pooping. He seemed very stressed when I just groomed
>> (brushed) him, though. I don't know why he is holding his tail up in
>> the air. If I had to tell someone else what I thought this behavior is
>> I would have no idea what to say other than it seems like he is
>> holding his tail that way for some reason. I am more perplexed than
>> worried. I have to go to the calling hours today and funeral tomorrow
>> for my cousin who died on Tuesday, so I will be away from the house a
>> lot today and tomorrow. He does have eye crusties which he is being
>> treated for (it is going around the rabbits), but he does not have
>> nose crusties or anything else going on that worries me.

#12112

From: Corinna Preuschoff <preuscho@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: Unusual behavior with Toasted Marshmallow

tapsilopsi

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Yes, Oliver does it all the time to show I am upset and want to be left
alone now. I haven't ever seen it in Ms. Marlo. But she has more direct
ways of protesting anyways.

> My kids do that pose, post thump mood. Rolo and foster Ginny...
>
> Karen DeGroat wrote:
> > I have never seen this behavior with any of my rabbits. He is on his
> belly with his legs tucked under him as he does when when he relaxes,
> but he is holding his tail up in the air. He is not acting gasy, he is
> eating and pooping. He seemed very stressed when I just groomed
> (brushed) him, though. I don't know why he is holding his tail up in
> the air. If I had to tell someone else what I thought this behavior is
> I would have no idea what to say other than it seems like he is
> holding his tail that way for some reason. I am more perplexed than
> worried. I have to go to the calling hours today and funeral tomorrow
> for my cousin who died on Tuesday, so I will be away from the house a
> lot today and tomorrow. He does have eye crusties which he is being
> treated for (it is going around the rabbits), but he does not have
> nose crusties or anything else going on that worries me.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

#12111

From: Emily Leung <eslocombe@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: Unusual behavior with Toasted Marshmallow

katmai_df

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My kids do that pose, post thump mood. Rolo and foster Ginny...

Karen DeGroat wrote:
> I have never seen this behavior with any of my rabbits.  He is on his belly
with his legs tucked under him as he does when when he relaxes, but he is
holding his tail up in the air.  He is not acting gasy, he is eating and
pooping.  He seemed very stressed when I just groomed (brushed) him, though.  I
don't know why he is holding his tail up in the air.  If I had to tell someone
else what I thought this behavior is I would have no idea what to say other than
it seems like he is holding his tail that way for some reason.  I am more
perplexed than worried. I have to go to the calling hours today and funeral
tomorrow for my cousin who died on Tuesday, so I will be away from the house a
lot today and tomorrow.  He does have eye crusties which he is being treated for
(it is going around the rabbits), but he does not have nose crusties or anything
else going on that worries me.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

#12110

From: "Karen DeGroat" <rabbits8@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with Gracie

pruplerock69

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How is Gracie today?  Is she OK?

>> > Hi,
> >
> > Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just
> > noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his
> > tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and
> > has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her
> > stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5
am
> > to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs
me
> > to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help.
> > Nanciel8@
> >
> > Thanks, Nicole.
> >
>

#12109

From: "Karen DeGroat" <rabbits8@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Unusual behavior with Toasted Marshmallow

pruplerock69

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I have never seen this behavior with any of my rabbits.  He is on his belly with
his legs tucked under him as he does when when he relaxes, but he is holding his
tail up in the air.  He is not acting gasy, he is eating and pooping.  He seemed
very stressed when I just groomed (brushed) him, though.  I don't know why he is
holding his tail up in the air.  If I had to tell someone else what I thought
this behavior is I would have no idea what to say other than it seems like he is
holding his tail that way for some reason.  I am more perplexed than worried. I
have to go to the calling hours today and funeral tomorrow for my cousin who
died on Tuesday, so I will be away from the house a lot today and tomorrow.  He
does have eye crusties which he is being treated for (it is going around the
rabbits), but he does not have nose crusties or anything else going on that
worries me.

#12108

From: "revelling_rabbit" <weebitoblarney@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:41 am
Subject: Re: Problem with Gracie

revelling_ra...

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If you don't have a special pet warming pad, we learned from an ER Vet that a
sock filled w/rice, then heated in the micorwave, works much better than hot
water bottles.  As the water bottle cools, it takes heat away from the bun.  It
just so happens I had long, winter, thigh high socks which worked out great for
wrapping around our bun.  But be careful not to burn the bun with an overheated
sock.

--- In HRNChat@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa Barlow Lyons" <melissa_barlow@...>
wrote:
>
> Nicole,
> Do you have anything else you can try, another favorite treat, maybe parsley
> and kale or something like that? It could be gas even if her stomach does not
> feel bloated. It would not hurt to try baby Gas X. Try giving her some extra
> TLC, keep her warm, and encourage her to drink some water. Do you ahve any
> canned pumpkin or anything else you can offer?
> Melissa
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:50:08 PM EST
> From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
> To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HRNChat] Problem with Gracie
>
> Hi,
>
> Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just
> noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his
> tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and
> has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her
> stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am
> to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me
> to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help.
> Nanciel8@...
>
> Thanks, Nicole.
>

#12107

From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with Gracie

princessbtte...

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Melissa,

I tried parsley, but she chewed and spit it out. What is the dosage for the
infant gas x? She's about 6.5 pounds. Thanks so much for the help

--- In HRNChat@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa Barlow Lyons" <melissa_barlow@...>
wrote:
>
> Nicole,
> Do you have anything else you can try, another favorite treat, maybe parsley
> and kale or something like that? It could be gas even if her stomach does not
> feel bloated. It would not hurt to try baby Gas X. Try giving her some extra
> TLC, keep her warm, and encourage her to drink some water. Do you ahve any
> canned pumpkin or anything else you can offer?
> Melissa
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:50:08 PM EST
> From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
> To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HRNChat] Problem with Gracie
>
> Hi,
>
> Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just
> noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his
> tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and
> has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her
> stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am
> to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me
> to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help.
> Nanciel8@...
>
> Thanks, Nicole.
>

#12106

From: "Carol Youngclaus" <cly@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:33 pm
Subject: RE: Problem with Gracie

carol_youngc...

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Yes, I can help. I can take your shift.

--------------------------------------

Carol Youngclaus

Anemone Graphics

781-933-9755

www.anemonegraphics.com

From: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HRNChat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of princessbttercup
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:49 PM
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HRNChat] Problem with Gracie

Hi,

Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help. Nanciel8@...

Thanks, Nicole.

#12105

From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with Gracie

princessbtte...

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Melissa,

I tried parsley, but she chewed and spit it out. What is the dosage for the
infant gas x? She's about 6.5 pounds. Thanks so much for the help

--- In HRNChat@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa Barlow Lyons" <melissa_barlow@...>
wrote:
>
> Nicole,
> Do you have anything else you can try, another favorite treat, maybe parsley
> and kale or something like that? It could be gas even if her stomach does not
> feel bloated. It would not hurt to try baby Gas X. Try giving her some extra
> TLC, keep her warm, and encourage her to drink some water. Do you ahve any
> canned pumpkin or anything else you can offer?
> Melissa
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:50:08 PM EST
> From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
> To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HRNChat] Problem with Gracie
>
> Hi,
>
> Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just
> noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his
> tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and
> has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her
> stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am
> to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me
> to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help.
> Nanciel8@...
>
> Thanks, Nicole.
>

#12104

From: "Melissa Barlow Lyons" <melissa_barlow@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with Gracie

snoopy6212003

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Nicole,
Do you have anything else you can try, another favorite treat, maybe parsley
and kale or something like that? It could be gas even if her stomach does not
feel bloated. It would not hurt to try baby Gas X. Try giving her some extra
TLC, keep her warm, and encourage her to drink some water. Do you ahve any
canned pumpkin or anything else you can offer?
Melissa

------ Original Message ------
Received: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:50:08 PM EST
From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HRNChat] Problem with Gracie

Hi,

Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just
noticed that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his
tummy), which is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and
has an "off" look to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her
stomach doesn't feel bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am
to 945am, and I'm worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me
to. Any suggestions? Please email me right away if you can help.
Nanciel8@...

Thanks, Nicole.

#12103

From: "princessbttercup" <Nanciel8@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:49 pm
Subject: Problem with Gracie

princessbtte...

Offline

Hi,

Gracie was fine this morning, and ran to her pellets. However, I've just noticed
that she did not finish them(Jacoby can't fit her share into his tummy), which
is highly unusual for her. She did not respond to raisins, and has an "off" look
to her face. She will not leave her vacation villa. Her stomach doesn't feel
bloated. I am sick with worry, and have to work from 5 am to 945am, and I'm
worried I won't get her to the vca in the time she needs me to. Any suggestions?
Please email me right away if you can help. Nanciel8@...

Thanks, Nicole.

#12102

From: "Bill" <cypressbill@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

defbil

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Awesome- thanks everyone! I definitely have some good options here.

--- In HRNChat@yahoogroups.com, Courtney Sudhalter <court_24@...> wrote:
>
>
> Try Gilmores in Walpole.  I used to buy my hay bales there when i had my
Rabbits and they have big bags of pellets also.
> http://www.gilmoresinc.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> good luck.
>
>
>
> Courtney
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> From: Bill
> To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:03 AM
> Subject: [HRNChat] Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?
>
>
>
> Are there places (preferably on the South Shore or near Quincy) that sell
bales of timothy hay and/or large supplies of quality pellets that don't breed
bunnies? I buy for 9 rabbits and usually go to Sweet Meadow and buy hay by the
bale and pellets by the 50 lb bag so going through a store for this would be
crazy expensive. Anyone know any place else?
>

#12101

From: Courtney Sudhalter <court_24@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:39 am
Subject: RE: Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

bostonsports...

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Try Gilmores in Walpole. I used to buy my hay bales there when i had my Rabbits and they have big bags of pellets also.
http://www.gilmoresinc.com/

good luck.

Courtney

From: Bill

To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:03 AM

Subject: [HRNChat] Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

Are there places (preferably on the South Shore or near Quincy) that sell bales of timothy hay and/or large supplies of quality pellets that don't breed bunnies? I buy for 9 rabbits and usually go to Sweet Meadow and buy hay by the bale and pellets by the 50 lb bag so going through a store for this would be crazy expensive. Anyone know any place else?

#12100

From: "Diane Mayer" <bunnycat1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:47 am
Subject: Re: Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

ratsaint

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You might find a hay source here: http://www.equinesite.com/cgi/dirsearch.cgi?State=MA&Category=Feed+And+Hay

Some of the entries have links that don't work, but sometimes that's the fault of equinesite, so don't assume they've gone out of business. I wonder if this would be good for you: http://hansongrain.com/ They sell rabbit supplies and hay.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill

To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:03 AM

Subject: [HRNChat] Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

Are there places (preferably on the South Shore or near Quincy) that sell bales of timothy hay and/or large supplies of quality pellets that don't breed bunnies? I buy for 9 rabbits and usually go to Sweet Meadow and buy hay by the bale and pellets by the 50 lb bag so going through a store for this would be crazy expensive. Anyone know any place else?

#12099

From: shannca7@...
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:21 pm
Subject: Pumpkin

ma_camijustice

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Guys, stock up on the canned pumpkin, as it's now in supermarkets for the holiday season :) They had tons at Market Basket and Shaw's this week.
Shannon

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#12098

From: Derrick Pratt <greengargantula@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Sweet Meadow Protest

greengargantula

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Mmmm. I like to take a mixture of all of our bunny's pellets and pour some chocolate soy milk over them. Better than cocoa puffs I tell ya. Give it a try. You'll be surprised at how good it tastes. All that fiber is an essential part of our diet. Westerners don't get enough fiber in their diet and this is an easy way to do it.

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, LJ Massey <lists@...> wrote:

From: LJ Massey <lists@...>
Subject: Re: [HRNChat] Sweet Meadow Protest
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 12:27 PM

Either of my buns will gladly give a free pellet making demonstration -
hay in, pellets out. ;)

> HRN pellets/ hay store coming soon?Â Also a HRN bunny hospital close to
> cape cod that's open late and on weekends would be fantastic.Â How does
> one go about making pellets?

#12097

From: "LJ Massey" <lists@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Sweet Meadow Protest

pqwabbit

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Either of my buns will gladly give a free pellet making demonstration -
hay in, pellets out. ;)

> HRN pellets/ hay store coming soon?  Also a HRN bunny hospital close to
> cape cod that's open late and on weekends would be fantastic.  How does
> one go about making pellets?

#12096

From: Derrick Pratt <greengargantula@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: Sweet Meadow Protest

greengargantula

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HRN pellets/ hay store coming soon? Also a HRN bunny hospital close to cape cod that's open late and on weekends would be fantastic. How does one go about making pellets?

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Emily Leung <eslocombe@...> wrote:

From: Emily Leung <eslocombe@...>
Subject: Re: [HRNChat] Sweet Meadow Protest
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:57 AM

To everyone:
please do not represent yourself as coming from HRN. You are an
individual, expressing your individual opinion. HRN's primary purpose is
rabbit rescue and education. Of course, we discourage breeding -- as
does HRS, but we cannot be responsible for whatever actions you, as an
individual, decide to take.

thank you,
Emily (25% of the HRN board of directors)

#12095

From: Emily Leung <eslocombe@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: Sweet Meadow Protest

katmai_df

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To everyone:
please do not represent yourself as coming from HRN. You are an
individual, expressing your individual opinion. HRN's primary purpose is
rabbit rescue and education. Of course, we discourage breeding -- as
does HRS, but we cannot be responsible for whatever actions you, as an
individual, decide to take.

thank you,
    Emily (25% of the HRN board of directors)

#12094

From: Derrick Pratt <greengargantula@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sweet Meadow Protest

greengargantula

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Big surprise. Until people stop looking at other animals as a commodity and see them as the sentient beings that they are, this will always continue.
How about them Pats! Smart play at the end of that game.

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Suzanne Trayhan <zanne67@...> wrote:

From: Suzanne Trayhan <zanne67@...>
Subject: Re: [HRNChat] Re: Sweet Meadow Protest
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 8:21 AM

Bonnie & everyone else.

I wasn't the person actively involved, but a year or two ago Sweet
Meadow did some breeding. Several groups actively boycotted them
but several HRN members engaged them in conversation. It took
a few weeks of negotiations but eventually they decided to
stop breeding. We have already gone down that route.

The fact that they are opening doing it now. (And I suspect but
can't prove they have been breeding discreetly before this) does
not make me personally want to engage them in conversation
again, When we were negotiating the first time, one of the
responses we got was that we need to understand that they
are a small business. (Um, no, it is a business's responsibility
to understand its customers) They clearly know our position.
They also know they have lost quite a bit of business because
of this. They are making it clear that they don't care.

None of this is (in the past or in the future) has been done officially
by HRN. We are a non profit focused on rabbit rescue and we make
it clear that we are against breeding. We may make statements that
we are disappointed about places that breed, but we really shouldn't
pick out a single organization.

On the other side, we are clearly a group of rabbit lovers and
what people on this list want to do on their they are welcome too,
and I hope they have some success.

Suzanne

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, bjsalt1@aol. com <bjsalt1@aol. com> wrote:

From: bjsalt1@aol. com <bjsalt1@aol. com>
Subject: [HRNChat] Re: Sweet Meadow Protest
To: HRNChat@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 6:34 AM

I don't really have a right to say anything to this group-but perhaps there is a better way to convince the owners not to breed and sell rabbits by asking for a sit down/talk session? The owners are good people who would probably listen and agree with this group if the facts were presented in a kind, informative manner.

I strongly believe that the way this is done will make all the difference in the world. I've learned that diplomacy is the best way to handle any disagreements to do with intelligent people. These are good, intelligent people who perhaps don't understand the plight of the rabbits and what you all have to go through with hoarding, breeding and dumping.

Really-may I recommend that instead of online protests perhaps requesting a face to face meeting with some cool headed people presenting the case might be more effective?

Only a suggestion.. .

In a message dated 11/17/2009 12:49:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, shadowangel978@ yahoo.com writes:

Just wanted to let you all know I went back to the save sweet meadow group today to see if their were any responses to our posts. And they did infact delete all of our post. So maybe starting another group against them would be a better idea if you all wanted to proceed with the protest.

Bonnie Salt
Planet Travel Inc.
978-463-8111

#12093

From: "LJ Massey" <lists@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

pqwabbit

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The closest place I knew of for hay bales when I was down there was a feed
store in Avon, though I can't find it listed now. I have no idea what they
sold for pellets. If you were driving out to Sherborn for hay, maybe using
the Waltham Agway for hay bales (also pellets, but I forget what they
carry) is as convenient a choice. I used to use them while working in
Watertown. I imagine there is hay to be had in various places between
Quincy and Sherborn.

The Pet Supplies Plus on Southern Artery (same lot as the Goodwill store)
may be able to order 50 lb bags of pellets for you if they do not have
them on the shelf. Way back when I had all those fosters, that is where I
would get my 50 lbs of Purina green bag. Hay came from the place in Avon.

VCA in Weymouth is on the Oxbow retain/vet List. Ordering bulk pellets
through a store or vet that already gets regular shipments will save you
some money, though will not be as economical as using the Sweet Meadow
warehouse. Fin Fur & Feather (Washington St) is also on that list, but
they sell all sorts of animals and have been known to advertise "Get your
Easter Pets here!" I have avoided them like the plague, haven't stepped
foot in it since I was a teenager. *gag* If you haven't been in there yet.
don't bother.

Linda, Flip, & Lona

> Are there places (preferably on the South Shore or near Quincy) that sell
> bales of timothy hay and/or large supplies of quality pellets that don't
> breed bunnies? I buy for 9 rabbits and usually go to Sweet Meadow and buy
> hay by the bale and pellets by the 50 lb bag so going through a store for
> this would be crazy expensive. Anyone know any place else?

#12092

From: Mary Lempert <milempert@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:36 pm
Subject: Fwd: Sweet Meadow

marylempert

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Here is the email I wrote to Al. People can feel free to copy/paste and send it along from their own addresses. I think that Al is responsible for whoever this other person breeding bunnies is. And even if the person breeding bunnies doesn't care about the social implications of rabbit overpopulation, they have to care about a large number of customers no longer buying their products from them. It would be prettty.. unwise... not to.
Mary

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mary Lempert <milempert@...>
Date: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Subject: Sweet Meadow
To: Al Michaud <sweetmeadowfarmhay@...>

Dear Al,
I have been a loyal and enthusiastic Sweet Meadow customer and I would like to remain that way. I heard that baby bunnies are being bred on the farm again, and as a shelter/rescue worker, I cannot support such a business. Consider that tens of thousands of rabbits are killed at shelters every year; they are perfectly healthy, cute, sociable rabbits who there just aren't enough homes for. It depresses me to hear that Sweet Meadow is pumping more baby bunnies into the mix, which will directly and indirectly lead to more and more rabbit deaths every year.
I spend thousands of dollars of my own money and countless hours caring for and adopting out foster bunnies through various rescues and shelters. Please consider the greater social implications of breeding bunnies.
I want to try and help save Sweet Meadow and that is why I am suggesting you stop this. A large number of rabbit enthusiasts, including me, have heard about the bunny breeding and are looking for alternative sources for our hay and pellets. I want you to know how big the impact will be on your business if you continue breeding bunnies. I want you to vow to stop whoever is doing this, because I do love your products and I do want your farm to survive. And hundreds of other Massachusetts residents agree with me. This is important, especially during a time like this, for the survival of Sweet Meadow.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Mary Lempert

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#12091

From: "Bill" <cypressbill@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:03 pm
Subject: Any other farms/bulk supply sellers?

defbil

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Are there places (preferably on the South Shore or near Quincy) that sell bales
of timothy hay and/or large supplies of quality pellets that don't breed
bunnies? I buy for 9 rabbits and usually go to Sweet Meadow and buy hay by the
bale and pellets by the 50 lb bag so going through a store for this would be
crazy expensive. Anyone know any place else?