I have an 11 week old dwarf lop eared bunny and she has been eating
alot lately and i wasnt concerned at first bc I thought she was eating
more bc she was growing. tonight i took her outside like I always do
and she was playing in the grass. i didnt think anything of it until I
picked her up and saw a tapeworm on her foot. imidiatly I got it off of
her and brought her inside and into her cage. A few minutes later I
came back to get her out of her cage, thats when i noticed mushy poop
on her and tapeworms everywhere. what should I do??

I hate advertising for PetSmart because of how badly they treat their
small animals and because they support mill breeders, but for those of
us without a local source of Oxbow pellets or hay, this is really
great!! I went into PetSmart to get Rose more Sunseed pellets and they
had the Oxbow ones so I got those instead. Turns out they have the hay
as well, which only costs a little more than the Kaytee hay.

My question is, with the alfalfa-based pellets, I was only giving her
2 tbsp per day (in addition to a large bowl of fresh greens and
unlimited timothy hay). Since these are timothy-based, and she's lost
a little bit of the weight I wanted her to, can she have more?

Hello everyone. My name is Michelle. I live in Pa. I am a first time
owner to a indoor housed netherland dwarf rabbit.
He is five months old. I have some questions.
1) My daughter was going to show him but she is to young to do
so....so I want to neuter him. Will this help with urine odor? Do
rabbits have a natural strong urine odor?
2) I heard it is not good to use wood shavings. I am not using them I
am using shredded card board for floor of cage but in litter box I am
using equine pelleted wood bedding is this ok? My bunny uses his
litterbox well. I let him out of his cage for about six hours a day.

Looking forward to talking with you.

Michelle & bunny Zack

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1) Yes, unneutered rabbits have a natural strong urine odor. Neutering will help
immensely.
2) Yes, equine pelleted wood bedding is used by many people I know. Wood stove
pellets are similar and may (or may not) be less expensive.

Kathy Smith
> 1) I want to neuter him. Will this help with urine odor? Do
> rabbits have a natural strong urine odor?
> 2) I heard it is not good to use wood shavings. I am not using them I
> am using shredded card board for floor of cage but in litter box I am
> using equine pelleted wood bedding is this ok? >
>


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You need to take her to a rabbit-savvy vet as soon as you can get her seen. I'm
sure this is treatable, but requires veterinary knowledge to confirm diagnosis
of the (type of) worms and prescribe the correct treatment.

Kathy Smith
Author, Rabbit Health in the 21st Century
Co-Author, When Your Rabbit Needs Special Care


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tonight i took her outside like I always do
> and she was playing in the grass. i didnt think anything of it until I
> picked her up and saw a tapeworm on her foot. imidiatly I got it off of
> her and brought her inside and into her cage. A few minutes later I
> came back to get her out of her cage, thats when i noticed mushy poop
> on her and tapeworms everywhere. what should I do??
>
>
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Getting her to the vet is my first thought. Are you positive they are
tapeworms? Either way, get her to the vet!
Shannon

In a message dated 11/10/2008 15:13 Eastern Standard Time,
turtle_queen89@... writes:

A few  minutes later I
came back to get her out of her cage, thats when i noticed  mushy poop
on her and tapeworms everywhere. what should I  do??



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YES! Neutering will help with the smell, litter box habits, behavior and of
course health reasons such as cancer. Smart move and at 5 months he's ready
now  for the snip-snip.
Wood pellets are great and many of our volunteers and foster homes use  them.
Another very cheap alternative is to use a thick pile of newspaper in the
box then the timothy hay on top. I've been doing it this way for 13 years.
Shannon

In a message dated 11/10/2008 15:16 Eastern Standard Time,
mequine@... writes:

1) I  want to neuter him. Will this help with urine odor? Do
rabbits have a  natural strong urine odor?
2) I heard it is not good to use wood shavings.  I am not using them I
am using shredded card board for floor of cage but  in litter box I am
using equine pelleted wood bedding is this ok?

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The reason I asked if you are sure these are tapeworms is because I'm
wondering if they are possibly maggots? I wonder if she has flystrike? If this 
is
the case, seeking veterinary care must be done ASAP!!! Flystrike is often
deadly if not treated within 24 hours or so. PLEASE, get your rabbit to a vet.
Anytime worms or something like this is discovered, you need to go to the vet.
Shannon

In a message dated 11/10/2008 15:13 Eastern Standard Time,
turtle_queen89@... writes:

A few  minutes later I
came back to get her out of her cage, thats when i noticed  mushy poop
on her and tapeworms everywhere. what should I  do??



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>so I want to neuter him. Will this help with urine odor? Do
>rabbits have a natural strong urine odor?

Bunny piddle is stinky, but if you change the litter every day this will
keep the smell down.  I use about 2 inches of Carefresh in Domino's litter
box and he's about 5.5lbs.

I'm not sure what equine pelleted wood bedding is but I know stove pellets
are alright.

Carolyn and Domino (the fuzzy one)

Yes, I agree with Kathy 100%. Tapeworms are very easy to treat (my
dogs got them from eating deer poop), but need a rabbit savvy vet to
prescribe the correct meds.

Peaceful wishes,

Nancy
animalauthor@...
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I just took my little "Lumpy" home from the vet after getting him
neutered. The doc gave me "Torbugesic" to give to him 3 times a day
for up to 5 days (or until he's not in any pain... Although, I'm not
sure I could tell if he was.). I have been researching this medication
online, and my understanding of it was that it was mostly a sedative,
and not for post operative care. Has anyone had this before? Should I
give him anything else, like Motrin or something? If so, should I mix
the two? I feel somewhat confident in my vet, however, I am still not
completely sure about the pain meds. Please let me know, I love this
little guy, and I don't want anything to happen to him.

I adopted my Lashes from SF animal shelter two days after she got
spayed.  The vet at the SF animal shelter didn't give me any special
instructions as to giving her medicine post-surgery. The vet did tell
me to let her stay in the cage for one week with very limited
activities.  One week later, Lashes started to become more active and
adventurous.

Jee & Lashes

I'm not sure what medicine a vet would prescribe.  When we had our first
bun neutered they gave him nothing :(  However, I did manage to step on
this bun a few years later (he had a horrible habit of running under our
feet) and was in a lot of pain with a swollen neck.  The vet we took him to
said to give him 1 St. Joseph's Baby Aspirin crushed up and mixed with
yogurt three times a day (just a little yogurt) and it worked miracles.  As
long as the aspirin was working he was bouncing and binking like
before.  One good thing that came out of it is he stopped running under our
feet :)  If you're unsure about giving your bun Torbugesic, maybe 1 baby
aspirin 3 times a day would be better.

Good luck with Lumpy!
Carolyn and Domino (the fuzzy one)

At 03:38 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote:

>I just took my little "Lumpy" home from the vet after getting him
>neutered. The doc gave me "Torbugesic" to give to him 3 times a day
>. Has anyone had this before? Should I
>give him anything else, like Motrin or something? If so, should I mix
>the two? I feel somewhat confident in my vet, however, I am still not

Torgugesic is safe for bunnies although, because it is a narcotic, it can "gork
out" bunnies who are especially sensitive to drugs. Although NSAIDs (like Motrin
or aspirin) can be given with Torb in cases of severe pain, I would not add one
after surgery (unless instructed to do so by your vet) because they have
blood-thinning properties.

I would play it by "ear" as to whether he needs pain medication once you get
home. I always like to have it on hand after a neuter but, honestly, many boy
bunnies don't even know they had "parts" removed and the challenge is more about
keeping them "quiet" for a few days.

Good luck.

Kathy Smith


One good thing that came out of it is he stopped running under our
> feet :) If you're unsure about giving your bun Torbugesic, maybe 1 baby
> aspirin 3 times a day would be better.
>
> Good luck with Lumpy!
> Carolyn and Domino (the fuzzy one)
>
> At 03:38 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote:
>
> >I just took my little "Lumpy" home from the vet after getting him
> >neutered. The doc gave me "Torbugesic" to give to him 3 times a day
> >. Has anyone had this before? Should I
> >give him anything else, like Motrin or something? If so, should I mix
> >the two? I feel somewhat confident in my vet, however, I am still not
>
>
>


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This is Michelle in Pa. Looking for a vet to neuter my bunny
Netherland Dwarf. How do I find a bunny vet? I dont just want any vet.


Thanks,
Michelle

Could someone please tell me what this  might be on one of our

rabbits? At first, I was   scared to death that it was

flystrike But we noticed it several days ago, and surely  we

would have seen maggots by now,right? He (Whodini)  acts

fine, it seems a little tender to him but he  is still playful

and pretty much acts like he always has.We had  our rabbits outside

in there  rabbit runs that we made for them,He got into a little

scuffle with  another male we have (Oreo) about a week ago and

it looked like Oreo nipped him but  he  acted fine. I just

cant hardly  imagine  that would cause   it. I don't know, I

don't have the   money to take him to the vet right now,or  we

would have been there 3 days ago. Can anyone  offer any

suggestions as to what it looks like, what kind of treatment I

can do for him at home, anything ???I would be so grateful. I

posted 4 pictures
http://my.opera.com/pcgrl30/albums/show.dml?id=638237
which  were kind of blurry, so I made a
little video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBE6BtbDlfM
It was worse than the pics, but there are a few places  where

you can see it pretty good.

Thank you in advance for any help or  suggestions.

Lori

Michelle,

There's some information here:
http://www.rabbit.org/vets/vets.html

Also, if you go to www.rabbit.org and find your local House Rabbit
Society chapter, their web site may have some information on rabbit
vets in your area. Or you may be able to find contact information for
a chapter staff person who can recommend someone.

Hope this helps,

Penny

Michelle wrote:
> This is Michelle in Pa. Looking for a vet to neuter my bunny
> Netherland Dwarf. How do I find a bunny vet? I dont just want any vet.

It might be an abscess...in that case, you can use Bicillin. Most
vets will work out a payment plan, so it's best to get your bunny
checked out to determine what is wrong (difficult to see in blurry
video). Keep us posted!

Peaceful wishes,

Nancy
animalauthor@...
Think it's tough putting on a condom? Try doing it with paws and
claws! Please spay/neuter your pet.






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Lori,

IMHO, that looks like an abcess and Whodini needs to be seen by a vet ASAP. 
Abcesses are nasty things and can cause major systemic infection if left
untreated.  I can understand the $$ situation as I am in the same boat myself,
however give your vet a call and see if he or she can work with you.  The gang
here is wishing you and Whodini the best of luck and sending lots of bunny get
well vibes.

Donna McKnight

Easter is no fun for buns!  
www.makeminechocolate.org
           




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Thanks for everyones help. I found a vet near me that does surgeries
on rabbits.



Michelle

--- In HouseBun@yahoogroups.com, "lilhorn83" <lilhorn83@...> wrote:
>While I am still new to rabbits, my parents had their kitten neutered
a few months ago. Neutering is not nearly as invasive as spaying, and
their cat barely needed any pain meds at all.
  He was more confused than anything. ("Am I missing something? I
thought there was something there, and now it's gone. Oh well.
*shrugs*")
  I know it's an awful feeling to not know if your pet is in pain, and
how much pain, but I think it's more like a mild discomfort. The
stitches might be a little itchy, but I think he'll be okay.
   Hope this helps!
~Kendra

This morning I noticed my dwarf mix holding one eye shut. There is no
discharge but the eye is red and irritated. A little later I noticed a
small bump on the upper eyelid. It is the normal color of the skin
around his eye. He is eating and moving around normally, just holding
the eye closed most of the time. Any ideas what this might be and how
I should treat it?

Hi,

We have a 5 month old rabbit with pretty sever malocclusion of the front teeth. 
We are committed to taking him to have his teeth clipped every few weeks.  I
wondered if anyone has a rabbit with this issue that does the teeth clipping at
home?

Nikki

A member of this list used to do it:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/HouseBun/message/1696

I had a rabbit who needed his upper incisors trimmed at least once a
month (he had had a lower incisor removed due to abscess) and asked my
vet to teach me how to do it. He said no, I believe because of
concerns about the possibility of the teeth shattering, infection
occurring, etc. He did offer me a low price and threw in nail trims
for free.

The one time time I watched the trimming being done (by another vet),
pliers-style clippers were used.

After reading the above-linked post, you may conclude it's not the
easiest thing to do anyway.

So I would say consult with your vet about this.

Hope this helps,

Penny

Nikki Leopold wrote:

> We have a 5 month old rabbit with pretty sever malocclusion of the front
teeth.
>We are committed to taking him to have his teeth clipped every few weeks.
>I wondered if anyone has a rabbit with this issue that does the teeth
>clipping at home?

Hi Everyone,
This is Marcy from SaveABunny Rabbit Rescue, www.saveabunny.org
I am moderating the list this week and it is so quiet, I wanted to test
it to make sure it's working.
Thanks!
Marcy

<<We have a 5 month old rabbit with pretty sever malocclusion of the
front teeth.  We are committed to taking him to have his teeth clipped
every few weeks.  I wondered if anyone has a rabbit with this issue
that does the teeth clipping at home? >>

I have a foster bun that I am caring for that had horribly maloccluded
incisors growing sidways.  I'm fortunate to have an excellent rabbit-
savvy vet who is experienced with this kind of dental work. The
incisors were removed a few months ago, and he's done quite well
without them.  Just needs his salads cut up a bit into because he can't
tear them apart as well------but he eats everything.

He was getting more reluctant to be held or come close to anyone for
fear that they would be doing more and more work on his teeth.  He was
quickly losing trust in being handled, and is still a very shy
boy.....but loves attention more and more now.

Continuously clipping the teeth causes them to grow even more wonky, as
it torques on the roots----causing them to turn more as they grow out.
In the long-run, this regular procedure is not only upsetting to the
rabbit, but also is not good for the teeth.  Using a diamond dental
drill is the best way on the teeth----however still you're going to
upset the rabbit continuosly.  If you want him to trust
you.........just get the teeth out and be done with it.  In the long-
run, you'll be saving money, and doing the rabbit and yourself a BIG
favor.

I've had several foster rabbits with denatl issues (I volunteer with a
shelter, and also with a couple of rabbit rescues locally).  I strongly
recommend finding a GOOD rabbit vet that can help you.  If they say
just to clip them-----you are not going to a vet who knows much about
rabbits, or teeth!

kindest regards, and good luck with your bunny's teeth,
Chris

I have also had several rabbits with this problem. The first was Smokey who had
upper teeth that curled around like the tusks on a warthog. His teeth were
trimmed with clippers. At first they had to be done every 2-3 weeks. By the time
he was diagnosed with cancer 3 1/2 years later, they required trimming only
twice a year.

I have had incisors removed on two rabbits since then -- both by the same
wonderful vet. The first lived another 8 years to the ripe old age of 12 1/2.
The other came through surgery just fine, but died a couple of weeks later
(necropsy was inconclusive). Surgery is a risk, even with the best surgeon --
and if even the smallest bit of the root is left, the incisors can grow back.
Not all veterinarians are going to be comfortable recommending this procedure
(and, frankly, not all owners can afford it). That doesn't mean they aren't good
rabbit vets or good caregivers.

Find a vet you trust, discuss options with him/her, and make the decision that
feels right to YOU, whether it is having the incisors removed or learning to
clip them yourself. My vet does clip incisors ... and one of my local friends
who normally uses another vet who insists on dremelling under anesthesia ...
goes to my vet for incisor care!

Kathy Smith



> Continuously clipping the teeth causes them to grow even more wonky, as
> it torques on the roots----causing them to turn more as they grow out.
> In the long-run, this regular procedure is not only upsetting to the
> rabbit, but also is not good for the teeth. Using a diamond dental
> drill is the best way on the teeth----however still you're going to
> upset the rabbit continuosly. If you want him to trust
> you.........just get the teeth out and be done with it. In the long-
> run, you'll be saving money, and doing the rabbit and yourself a BIG
> favor.
>
> I've had several foster rabbits with denatl issues (I volunteer with a
> shelter, and also with a couple of rabbit rescues locally). I strongly
> recommend finding a GOOD rabbit vet that can help you. If they say
> just to clip them-----you are not going to a vet who knows much about
> rabbits, or teeth!
>
>


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This topic was discussed at this year's rabbit care conference
sponsored by the NYC HRS chapter. The vets om the panel didn't discuss
trimming v removing (that I remember) but they did say that removing
the teeth may be the best solution for some buns and to be sure that
the vet got the whole root.  One mentioned that if the tooth starts to
grow back get right back to the vet to have the root removed.
Martha

--- In HouseBun@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <CNorlund@...> wrote:
....I have a foster bun that I am caring for that had horribly
maloccluded
> incisors growing sidways.  I'm fortunate to have an excellent rabbit-
> savvy vet who is experienced with this kind of dental work. The
> incisors were removed a few months ago, and he's done quite well
> without them.  Just needs his salads cut up a bit into because he
can't
> tear them apart as well------

Hello,

Our bunny is suddenly acting very restless and skittish. This morning
she was totally normal and especially playful. When we returned, she
didn't get out of her cage for several hours (which is unusual upon
our return) and seemed as though she could not get comfortable in her
cage.

A few hours later she got out of her cage, but her restless,
uncomfortable behavior stayed the same. When we try to give her
attention, she eventually hops away to be by herself. When she does
get to a spot, she tries to lay out flat, but can't seem to stay
comfortable in that position very long. She's receptive to being
petted, and it doesn't seem to cause her pain to have her mid-section
rubbed.

Additionally, she occasionally seems to be breathing more rapidly than
usual. She is passing fecal pellets, but they seem quite dry.

Whether any of this is related, i'm not sure.

Does this sudden behavioral change signal something medically wrong
with our bunny?

Is there any advice you could provide?

Thank you very much,

Jane

I would suspect a GI problem. It may be simply a bad "gas attack", but to be
safe I would try to get in to see a bunny savvy vet today. GI problems can
sometimes become life-threatening in less than 24 hours. Better safe than sorry!

Kathy Smith



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>
> A few hours later she got out of her cage, but her restless,
> uncomfortable behavior stayed the same. When we try to give her
> attention, she eventually hops away to be by herself. When she does
> get to a spot, she tries to lay out flat, but can't seem to stay
> comfortable in that position very long. She's receptive to being
> petted, and it doesn't seem to cause her pain to have her mid-section
> rubbed.
>
> Does this sudden behavioral change signal something medically wrong
> with our bunny?
>
> Is there any advice you could provide?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Jane
>
>
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