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Trotting

Ok, When we got Joli she was a tolting machine. I never saw her trot.
We have had her for a year and this is what has changed. She has
lost at least 50 lbs or more, So her saddle probably fits different.
I know it isn't wide enough but she has lost so much weight that is
has to fit better than it did last summer and her prior history.
She is in better shape. I ride her more than she was used to. We go
up and down big hills etc. But she has a long way to go.
I don't use the flash around her mouth as tight.
I use a different farrier.
She may have issues with a leg and lameness. I cannot see it
clearly.But at times I think I feel her a little off. When we got her
she had a splint lameness to touch but it is gone and there is no
sensitivity to the leg at all.

She is goey at first and then she settles down to be almost to quiet
and you need to urge to go.

I remember reading some horses tolt better due to pain of the saddle????

So for all of you that know a heck of alot more than I do about
Icelandics and their gaits, what do you think?



Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:12 pm

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... Hi John, Oh that's interesting. Now, I'm curious: Do you ride in the 2-point position a lot (that seems to be the classic endurance rider's seat in a...
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Ok, When we got Joli she was a tolting machine. I never saw her trot. We have had her for a year and this is what has changed. She has lost at least 50 lbs...
Pam Hansen
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Aug 14, 2007
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I know less about Icelandics than all of you put together, but when our Twist, an off-track Standardbred, had a suspensory injury, he was only intermitantly...
Nancy Sturm
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Aug 14, 2007
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I've always thought a nice trot is a sign of a healthy back... Wanda...
Wanda Lauscher
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Aug 14, 2007
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... I think that depends on what's "normal" for the horse. I think there are horses with healthy backs that don't trot all that much. What's significant to...
Karen Thomas
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Aug 14, 2007
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... Nancy, did he happen to have a bump come up on his rump? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo...
Janice McDonald
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Aug 14, 2007
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... This is where having videos of before and after would be invaluable! Yes, it can happen. When the tolt is obtained from mechanical aids, it will not last. ...
Judy Ryder
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Aug 14, 2007
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head carriage can affect gait and a bit can affect head carriage. has the bit changed? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo...
Janice McDonald
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Aug 14, 2007
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... Yes the bit was changed from a linked snaffle to a full cheek snaffle. Her feet seem more toe than she had before and I believe Deadra had shoes on always....
Pam Hansen
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... Janice...good catch. Yes, a different bit could have a different type of balance forcing your horse to balance the bit differently in her mouth which...
Wanda Lauscher
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Aug 14, 2007
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... I think that's true for SOME horses. But, others I think are simply conformed to pace, and that's going to be what they do. For those few, it just is...
Karen Thomas
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Aug 15, 2007
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... Yes, but if they suddenly start trotting, I would tend to believe that there were a few issues/practises that may have not been the healthiest as far as...
Wanda Lauscher
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Aug 15, 2007
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... But that's assuming that trotting is always a good thing, no matter how the horse is conformed. I know that's a strongly held belief in the Icelandic...
Karen Thomas
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... I don't know. But when it happened with Hreggur (and this was gradually over time)...he was healthier and stronger and more willing to work. His attitude...
Wanda Lauscher
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Aug 15, 2007
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... It was true with Sina too, and to a much lesser extent, Loftur. What I'm not sure about is whether it's ALWAYS a good sign...? ... I feel the same way...
Karen Thomas
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... In what instances could you envision that it wouldn't be a good sign? A pacey horse becoming trotty....hmmm... You're thinking that a horse that is...
Wanda Lauscher
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... Some horses have bone structures that almost REQUIRE that they pace. Most soft-gaited horses aren't so extreme in their conformation, but some are. So,...
Karen Thomas
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... I understand what you're saying and I think that some horses never do trot....ever. However for the ones that start trotting on their own....I think that's...
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... Gat is very pacey but she will trot for Alex but before that the previous owner said Gat wouldn't trot. Gat has a long back, she's built downhill, and has...
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Hi Virginia, ... owner said Gat wouldn't trot. I would say that could be a contributor - along with the angle of the hip AND the way she was likely ridden and...
Robyn Hood
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Aug 15, 2007
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... things with her - isn't Alex jumping her a bit? That would all do her the world of good. I think there is just an infinite degree of gaitedness possible...
Karen Thomas
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Aug 15, 2007
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... Robyn, No I never saw her trot in the pasture. Also when lunging her a few times she tolted only. She had an awesome super fast tolt. I am worried. I...
Pam Hansen
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... For what it's worth, I AM pointing fingers when I talk about Mac - but I'm pointing at myself. I seriously planned to use him for a conformation model at...
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... I am thinking it is a bad sign that she is trotting. Even when she used to run out in the field it was a tolt. I have a good farrier but I am thinking...
Pam Hansen
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Hi Pam, ... used to run out in the field it was a tolt. Did you ever see her trot in the pasture? I must have missed the original post but while I don't think...
Robyn Hood
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I think if a horse hard paces he can stepping pace, and that is a way better gait for the bones. But so many want to press for speed and a stepping pace can...
Janice McDonald
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... That's really what I'm thinking - the magic is to find the easiest gait to ride that is also easy for the horse, and sometimes that may be a long way from...
Karen Thomas
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... Pam, I am VERY strongly opposed to trying to get gait by manipulating the hooves. The horse's feet should be trimmed in balance as required by his/her...
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Aug 16, 2007
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... do >it...or maybe even for the ones who just have to be pushed SLIGHTLY >to encourage trot. That's a gray area and I don't pretend to know >how to answer...
Kim Morton
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Aug 15, 2007
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... BTW, I've never seen that happen in a horse that is "hard-conformed" to pace. (I count "hard-wiring" as different - the influences that we aren't...
Karen Thomas
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