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Re: Novice question regarding breeding minis

No matter what generation the one mini is, when you breed it back to a Nigerian the offspring would be 1 generation.  You can’t have a percentage mini out of a purebred animal, therefore it must return to a first generation.

 

 

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Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:42 am

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Good morning, I am new to breeding Mini Obers and have a question. I realize that in order to work on breed character that sometimes it is necessary to breed a...
desertnanny
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Aug 15, 2009
3:54 pm

Without looking up a rule book, I was told by a board member of TMGR that the offspring will be whatever is the lowest.  So if you bred a Nigerian buck to an...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 16, 2009
2:56 am

Lyne,   Thanks so much for your input! I would hope that if one had the Ober breed character already, that breeding back to a purebred Nigerian buck would...
Sharon Warren
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Aug 16, 2009
4:20 am

Yes, it would be allowed.  In fact I have a buck that is 3/4 Nigerian and "registered" as F1.  He is a handsome fellow and I keep deciding I need to use him...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 16, 2009
3:22 pm

Wonderful input, thank you so much! There is a lot to think about. I'm also wondering if having a first gen doe that is very small is such a good idea. Have...
Sharon Warren
desertnanny
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Aug 16, 2009
3:35 pm

Ironically, the only kid weve had to pull was out of the extra large mini.  That wasn't even her fault.  She was four years old when I got her and supposedly...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 16, 2009
3:53 pm

There is one other good reason to continue buying F1 minis from Oberhasli breeders that breed all their yearlings to a good Nigerian buck.  We get the best...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 16, 2009
4:02 pm

I have noticed this too. I was able to breed my buck to some awesome junior Obers. It helped the Ober breeder to get her young juniors fresh so that she...
Sharon Warren
desertnanny
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Aug 16, 2009
10:02 pm

I like what you said, "I like them just they way they are."  What more could we ask?  If it looks and tastes like chicken...  ^_^  I agree that I am making...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 16, 2009
11:53 pm

No matter what generation the one mini is, when you breed it back to a Nigerian the offspring would be 1 generation. You can't have a percentage mini out of a...
Andrea Green
ajudgoats
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Aug 16, 2009
9:44 am

Those big white splashes can sometimes happen in a purebred Oberhasli. I saw 2 such does being shown as Recorded Grades, even tho they were infact many...
Barbara Stewart
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Aug 16, 2009
5:18 pm

Wonderful input, thank you so much! There is a lot to think about. I'm also wondering if having a first gen doe that is very small is such a good idea. Have...
Andrea Green
ajudgoats
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Aug 17, 2009
1:53 pm

Thanks for this information, Andrea. I have noticed that the 1st generation does have great ribbing and lots of body depth. I guess this might be a factor. ...
Sharon Warren
desertnanny
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Aug 17, 2009
3:54 pm

Dang, doesn't this conversation make you want to look at each others herds?!?!?  Why do we have to be so far apart?  I haven't posted a current photo on my...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 17, 2009
4:09 pm

Lyne,   I've posted baby pics on my web and just recently clipped them. Problem is, I can't get decent pictures because my "handler" can't pose them properly...
Sharon Warren
desertnanny
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Aug 17, 2009
6:35 pm

Just took a look at your site Sharon. The Mini Obers look great and are sooooo cute! I bet you look forward to seeing how the udders turn out! Eliya ...
eliyaforster
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Aug 18, 2009
1:17 pm

Good morning mini lovers I think a factor in ribbing and body depth might be a similar look between Lynes and Sharons 1st gen since all their dams excel in...
Flora911@...
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Aug 17, 2009
4:22 pm

Well, you SHOULD be proud of the effect your Mother Ship Oberhasli does have had on the mini breed.  ^_^  When the F1s, like from your herd, are so good, it...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 17, 2009
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I'm glad to hear that so many of you are getting correct mini's in the first generation. I agree that the herdbooks should continue to allow 1st gens for a...
eliyaforster
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Aug 18, 2009
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Knock on wood, but all my F2s and F3s look like their F1s - no throw backs to either extreme size.  I'm guessing that Mother Nature thinks a midsize is the...
Lyne Peterson
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Aug 18, 2009
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Hi Sandy!   I know that Bell and Colorado are beauties (got `em from you). I recently clipped them and they are stunning. Dairy character rules!   Congrats...
Sharon Warren
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Aug 17, 2009
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