Hi Jerry,

It really depends on WHICH pink you male is.  When you say cream
female, I assume you mean pale fallow, right?  Are her toe nails a
clear pink or do they have some gray in them?  Same question for the
male.  Is there any gray in his nails?

Pink can mean cinnamon opaline, dun fallow opaline, or pale fallow
opaline.  Sometimes they are hard to tell apart by appearance.  You
have to look closely and know what to look for.

Anyway, we know the male is opaline.  Any of his opaline offspring
will be females and his non-opaline offspring will be males.

If the male is opaline pale fallow, then all of his daughters will be
pink and his sons will be cream (pale fallow).

If the male is opaline dun fallow (and not split to pale fallow),
then all of his daughters will be rosy split to dun fallow and cream
(pale fallow).  His sons will be normals split to opaline, dun fallow
and pale fallow.  I bring up this possibility because I paired a
"cream" male with a pink female thinking I would get creams and
pinks.  I got all rosies and normals.  The male and female carried
different fallow genes.  Their babies are split to both fallows.

If the male is opaline cinnamon, both of which are sex-linked, all of
his daughers will be opaline cinnamons split to pale fallow, and his
sons will be normals split to opaline, cinnamon, and pale fallow.

Both opaline and cinnamon are sex-linked.  Both pale fallow and dun
fallow are autosomal recessives.

Pale fallows will have pink toenails.  Dun fallow and cinnamon will
show some gray in the toe nails.  Cinnamon will show no gray in the
plumage, only browns for the areas with melanin.  Both fallows will
have quite pink eyes.  Cinnamons will have dark plum-red eyes, almost
black.  Of course, you have to have good light to be sure.

I hope this is some help.  I don't really want to confuse you, but
unless you are certain which actual mutations you are dealing with,
there are many possibilities.  You can post some photos of your birds
and we can see which mutations we think they actually express.

Carie


>
>What kind of babies will I get from a pink bourke male (Red eyes)
>and a cream bourke (red eyes) female? Please let me know.
>
>Jerry

What kind of babies will I get from a pink bourke male (Red eyes) and a cream
bourke (red eyes) female? Please let me know.

Jerry

I need a male lutino elegant keet, one male cinnamon splendid keet. Anyone in
the Los Angeles area or Calfornia please let me know if you have any available.

Thanks,

Jerry

We have had several new members join lately, so maybe we can get this group
going again.  Let me introduce myself.  My name is Carie Nixon and am moderator
of the group.  I live in central Illinois.  My website is
http://www.freewebs.com/snowbirdaviary.

I breed scarlet chested parakeets, red rumped parakeets, and my favorite,
Bourke's parakeets.  I also have a new pair of western rosellas that I hope to
breed in the spring.  I also breed parrotlets and finches, but the grass
parakeets are my main focus.

I have most of the Bourke's mutations, as well as normals.  I have rosies
(opaline), pale fallow, dun fallow, lutino, pink (both pale fallow opaline and
dun fallow opaline), and rubino.

I have four pair of scarlet chested parakeets, all normal.  Normals are my
favorites but would like to have some blues some day.  I have only seen one, and
it was gorgeous.

I have redrumps in normal, pallid, and Australian blue.  I am planning on
crossing the pallid and the Australian blues.  I love the pale blue birds from
this combination.  Nobody around here seems interested in breeding them so I am
starting from scratch.

I am a biologist and did my graduate work in ornithology.  I also love genetics,
and have taught it in both high school and college.  If anyone needs genetics
advice, I might be able to help.

I would love to hear from others.  Are you breeders?  Just enjoy them as pets? 
What do you keep?

Carie

It's illegal to ship them express mail!  And, I don't think you'll find a
GOOD breeder who will do so. Too much left to chance.
Pat
Aurora (male dusky pi) & Nila (female dusky pi)
Pandora (bh caique)
Boca (male, Timneh AG)
Scruffy (quaker)
Goliath (linnie)

----- Original Message -----
From: "karlyrau" <karlyrau@...>
To: <Neophema_GrassParakeets@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [Neophema_GrassParakeets] (unknown)


> New to the group.... my brand new heater in my brand new bird room
> malfunctioned last night and brought the room up to 126 degrees.. to say
> the least I lost all my canaries and bourkes... I was sick...
>
> looking for sexed Bourkes in Rosey, Lutino, maybe cream and rubino. ANy
> blues out there....
>
> Prefer to have shipped express mail
>
> thanks Karl in Maine

New to the group.... my brand new heater in my brand new bird room malfunctioned
last night and brought the room up to 126 degrees.. to say the least I lost all
my canaries and bourkes... I was sick...

looking for sexed Bourkes in Rosey, Lutino, maybe cream and rubino. ANy blues
out there....

Prefer to have shipped express mail

thanks Karl in Maine

I live in Illinois and need a male scarlet chested for a very nice adult hen. 
Is there anyone who has one nearby that I can pick up, or who can ship?  If you
ship, I prefer to have more than one shipped.

Carie

Hey everyone,

I hope you don't mind me sharing this, but I just heard The Perch Store is having a toy sale this week for 30% off all their toys. They have one of the largest selections I've ever seen! I've used them a few times before and their orders always come fast and the quality is fantastic. They also sell just about anything else you'll ever need for parrots & pet birds.

Their address is: http://www.theperchstore.net . I think the sale runs until Saturday night.

Mandy

Hey everyone,

I hope you don't mind me sharing this, but I just heard The Perch Store is
having a toy sale this week for 30% off all their toys.  They have one of the
largest selections I've ever seen!  I've used them a few times before and their
orders always come fast and the quality is fantastic.  They also sell just about
anything else you'll ever need for parrots & pet birds.

Their address is:    http://www.theperchstore.net .  I think the sale runs until
Saturday night.

Mandy

Hey everyone,

I hope you don't mind me sharing this, but I just heard The Perch Store is
having a toy sale this week for 30% off all their toys.  They have one of the
largest selections I've ever seen!  I've used them a few times before and their
orders always come fast and the quality is fantastic.  They also sell just about
anything else you'll ever need for parrots & pet birds.

Their address is:    http://www.theperchstore.net .  I think the sale runs until
Saturday night.

Mandy

The Hudson Valley Caged Bird Society  9th annual bird mart
Sunday June 7th
9-4
Holiday Inn, Rt. 9 Fishkill NY

Hi, My friend will be going to Tampa,Florida in a few weeks and wanted me to see
if anyone in Tampa or near Tampa has bourkes, elegant parakeets, scarlet chested
parakeets,or hooded parakeets for sale. Anyone please email me your contact
information. Angela specialpvcgirl@ yahoo.com

5 Cinnamon Scarlet Chesteds. One of them is already showing red on it's chest
(male) and also has a red belly. 5 Normal Scarlet Chesteds. And 1 Pied Scarlet
Chested. $1200 for the 11 Scarlet Chesteds. They are 3-5 months old, so most of
them are too young to sex for sure. We ship Delta Airlines. If you are
interested in part of this group, just ask for pricing. But they will be higher
per bird if you do not take the whole group. See our website at
www.dillardsaviary.com . If interested, please email me private at
sdcatbirdz@...

I have 2 normal male bourkes split to rubino. I have had them since late
October. They are a little past a year old. I Will not be able to ship. I am
located in WI. Any questions please email me off of the yahoo group. Thanks
Angela

What do you think is the color of this Bourke Chick?

Photo in "A Paul's birds"

Paul

Carie

The Orange is a single gene mutation, from my experience and genetic
knowledge.

I have bredt Orange, Opaline Orange and Lime Opaline Orange chicks
from a visually normal pair. That would imply that the cock split
for both Lime, Opaline and Orange and the hen split for Orange. All
the Opaline Orange and Lime Opaline Orange chicks are hens, but the
Normal Orange I have bredt in cocks and hens.

If it was a modification or intensification of pigmentation as in
the redfronted Turquoisine you would not be able to breed visually
Orange birds as the dad and the mom do not show any Orange.

In the Orange birds it is the Yellow that is replaced by Orange. The
red and the Green stay unaffected.

Paul


--- In Neophema_GrassParakeets@yahoogroups.com, Carie Nixon
<dragonfly@...> wrote:
>
> You have some that I have only seen in books or on the internet.
I
> am really interested in the orange red rumps.  I have a pallid red
> rump who has orange on his belly.  He had more when he was a
> nestling, but still has some as an adult.  I have assumed it is a
> suffused character.  Do your oranges act like a character that you
> selectively breed to enhance (probably multiple genes involved) or
is
> it all or nothing, like a single gene.  I have also had a few
females
> born with small amounts of red on their rumps.  Your birds are
> beautiful.  If this is a gene you are dealing with, do you know if
it
> occurs anywhere else other than South Africa?
>
> Carie
>
>
> >Carie
> >
> >I stay in South Africa. Internet is still very expensive here so
not
> >a lot of people have fulltime internet -- not a lot of active
> >members here.
> >
> >I breed the following birds:
> >
> >REDRUMPS: Opaline, Lutino, Blues, Orange and all the combinations.
> >
> >TURQUOISINES: Opaline, dilute, redfronted, dark green, Greygreen
and
> >the combinations.
> >
> >BOURKES: Opaline, Lutino, Rubino, "Blue" and "Green"
> >
> >LINNIES: Cobalt, Edged, CreamIno, Turquoise, Mauve and Violet in
all
> >the colors. The Violets are quit new to me. I have bredt the
> >following up to now --- SF Violet Cobalt, DF Violet Cobalt, SF
> >Violet Cobalt SF Edged, SF Violet Mauve, SF Violet Green and SF
> >Violet CreamIno.
> >
> >I also breed African Greys, Mealy rosellas, Budgies, Indian
> >Ringnecks, Eclectus parrots and Gauldian finches.
> >
> >I hope I can stir up a few people to participate again.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Paul Lubbe
>
> --
> Carie Nixon
> Tolono, Illinois
> http://www.freewebs.com/thedustbunny
> http://www.freewebs.com/snowbirdaviary
>

You have some that I have only seen in books or on the internet.  I
am really interested in the orange red rumps.  I have a pallid red
rump who has orange on his belly.  He had more when he was a
nestling, but still has some as an adult.  I have assumed it is a
suffused character.  Do your oranges act like a character that you
selectively breed to enhance (probably multiple genes involved) or is
it all or nothing, like a single gene.  I have also had a few females
born with small amounts of red on their rumps.  Your birds are
beautiful.  If this is a gene you are dealing with, do you know if it
occurs anywhere else other than South Africa?

Carie


>Carie
>
>I stay in South Africa. Internet is still very expensive here so not
>a lot of people have fulltime internet -- not a lot of active
>members here.
>
>I breed the following birds:
>
>REDRUMPS: Opaline, Lutino, Blues, Orange and all the combinations.
>
>TURQUOISINES: Opaline, dilute, redfronted, dark green, Greygreen and
>the combinations.
>
>BOURKES: Opaline, Lutino, Rubino, "Blue" and "Green"
>
>LINNIES: Cobalt, Edged, CreamIno, Turquoise, Mauve and Violet in all
>the colors. The Violets are quit new to me. I have bredt the
>following up to now --- SF Violet Cobalt, DF Violet Cobalt, SF
>Violet Cobalt SF Edged, SF Violet Mauve, SF Violet Green and SF
>Violet CreamIno.
>
>I also breed African Greys, Mealy rosellas, Budgies, Indian
>Ringnecks, Eclectus parrots and Gauldian finches.
>
>I hope I can stir up a few people to participate again.
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul Lubbe

--
Carie Nixon
Tolono, Illinois
http://www.freewebs.com/thedustbunny
http://www.freewebs.com/snowbirdaviary

Carie

I stay in South Africa. Internet is still very expensive here so not
a lot of people have fulltime internet  -- not a lot of active
members here.

I breed the following birds:

REDRUMPS: Opaline, Lutino, Blues, Orange and all the combinations.

TURQUOISINES: Opaline, dilute, redfronted, dark green, Greygreen and
the combinations.

BOURKES: Opaline, Lutino, Rubino, "Blue" and "Green"

LINNIES: Cobalt, Edged, CreamIno, Turquoise, Mauve and Violet in all
the colors. The Violets are quit new to me. I have bredt the
following up to now --- SF Violet Cobalt, DF Violet Cobalt, SF
Violet Cobalt SF Edged, SF Violet Mauve, SF Violet Green and SF
Violet CreamIno.

I also breed African Greys, Mealy rosellas, Budgies, Indian
Ringnecks, Eclectus parrots and Gauldian finches.

I hope I can stir up a few people to participate again.

Thanks

Paul Lubbe


--- In Neophema_GrassParakeets@yahoogroups.com, Carie Nixon
<dragonfly@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul, Welcome to the group.  There has not been much activity
here
> lately, but maybe some new blood will bring it back to life.   You
> have some gorgeous birds!  What species do you breed?  I see
> Bourke's, Turquoisines, red rumps, and linneolated in your photos.
> Where are you located?
>
> My name is Carie Nixon and I am in Illinois, USA.  I breed Red
Rumps
> (just had some hatch), Bourke's (really my specialty), and Scarlet
> Chesteds (the ones that got me started).  I also breed parrotlets
and
> society finches, and am seriously thinking about adding Lineolated
to
> the mix.
>
> Carie
>
>
> >Hi My name is Paul and I am new to the group. In A Paul's birds
are
> >some of my birds.
> >
> >Thanks
>

Hi Paul, Welcome to the group.  There has not been much activity here
lately, but maybe some new blood will bring it back to life.   You
have some gorgeous birds!  What species do you breed?  I see
Bourke's, Turquoisines, red rumps, and linneolated in your photos.
Where are you located?

My name is Carie Nixon and I am in Illinois, USA.  I breed Red Rumps
(just had some hatch), Bourke's (really my specialty), and Scarlet
Chesteds (the ones that got me started).  I also breed parrotlets and
society finches, and am seriously thinking about adding Lineolated to
the mix.

Carie


>Hi My name is Paul and I am new to the group. In A Paul's birds are
>some of my birds.
>
>Thanks

Hi My name is Paul and I am new to the group. In A Paul's birds are
some of my birds.

Thanks

----- Original Message -----

From: Angela

To: Neophema_GrassParakeets@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:31 PM

Subject: Re: [Neophema_GrassParakeets] Need some advice on blue red rump parakeets

Hi, I was shocked to see what the breeders (wife) had brought the bird in. I saw a cardboard box with a towel over it. When she removed the towel the bird was in a white flat cage ( not even close to a regular cage) and it was smushed. I had brought my own carrier for the bird. The entrance was so small I could not fit my hand in it. I don't even know how the seller fit this big bird into that container. After struggling a few times I was able to get the bird out of it and put him in my carrier. I thought I was going to have to cut the bird out with wire cutters. The cage looked like it was for a finch or canary. It was terrible. He is singing quite loud now and making sounds like a smoke detector. I thought they were quiet like bourkes. It seems like he is looking for a hen to respond to his sounds. I fell in love with him whether he was parent or handfed. It didn't matter to me at the time becuase the breeder said he didn't bite. I now wish he was handfed but I can't look back. I want to move on and have a beautiful baby boy blue red rump. I wish people wouldn't lie about the bird just to make a sale. I hope he will calm down. Angela

Hi, I was shocked to see what the breeders (wife) had brought the bird in. I saw a cardboard box with a towel over it. When she removed the towel the bird was in a white flat cage ( not even close to a regular cage) and it was smushed. I had brought my own carrier for the bird. The entrance was so small I could not fit my hand in it. I don't even know how the seller fit this big bird into that container. After struggling a few times I was able to get the bird out of it and put him in my carrier. I thought I was going to have to cut the bird out with wire cutters. The cage looked like it was for a finch or canary. It was terrible. He is singing quite loud now and making sounds like a smoke detector. I thought they were quiet like bourkes. It seems like he is looking for a hen to respond to his sounds. I fell in love with him whether he was parent or handfed. It didn't matter to me at the time becuase the breeder said he didn't bite. I now wish he was handfed but I can't look back. I want to move on and have a beautiful baby boy blue red rump. I wish people wouldn't lie about the bird just to make a sale. I hope he will calm down. Angela

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Pat B <rora.dora@...> wrote:

From: Pat B <rora.dora@...>
Subject: Re: [Neophema_GrassParakeets] Need some advice on blue red rump parakeets
To: Neophema_GrassParakeets@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 7:08 PM

Hi Angela,
Sounds a little extreme, but the main reason I hand feed most of my grass
keets is because of the thrashing around factor. I had a couple of hens that
I sold last year who had been parent raised. Silly me - I reached in for
one of them and got the snot bitten out of my hand - had to use a towel -
they do pack a mean bite for such a comparatively small bird! :-) But, they
were fairly calm for parent raised birds. How did he act when you picked
him up from the breeder? Poor thing. I guess all you can do is to move
slowly, talk softly - and hopefully he'll come around. :-)
Pat
Aurora (male dusky pi) & Nila (female dusky pi)
Pandora (bh caique)
Boca (male, Timneh AG)
Scruffy (quaker)
Goliath (linnie)

Hi Angela,
Sounds a little extreme, but the main reason I hand feed most of my grass
keets is because of the thrashing around factor. I had a couple of hens that
I sold last year who had been parent raised.  Silly me - I reached in for
one of them and got the snot bitten out of my hand - had to use a towel -
they do pack a mean bite for such a comparatively small bird! :-)  But, they
were fairly calm for parent raised birds.  How did he act when you picked
him up from the breeder?  Poor thing.  I guess all you can do is to move
slowly, talk softly - and hopefully he'll come around. :-)
Pat
Aurora (male dusky pi) & Nila (female dusky pi)
Pandora (bh caique)
Boca (male, Timneh AG)
Scruffy (quaker)
Goliath (linnie)

I have never had one react that badly, but I imagine he is terrified.
It might help if you cover all but the front of his cage so he feels
more secure (if you can do this without causing him to thrash himself
to pieces).  Hopefully he will settle down after a few days.  It's
hard to feed and clean the cage of a bird who reacts that strongly.
I also would love to have some blue red rumps.  I have normal and
pallid.  I would love to try to breed a pallid blue.

Carie


>Hi, I hope someone can help me out here. I have bourkes, linnies,
>scarlet chested parakeers and I wanted to get blue red rump parakeets.
>I purchased a male blue red rump parakeet that is about 5-6 months old.
>When I tried to put him in his new cage he bit so hard my hand swelled
>up. Now I can't even go into the room where he is because he thrashes
>all around his cage. I can't even peek at him without him acting crazy.
>Is this normal behavior of a red rump? I wanted to set him up when he
>got older to breed but I am not sure if he will be able to. I don't
>know what his life was like with the breeder before I purchased him.
>All I know is that he was still in the cage with his sister. I thought
>maybe he is lonely without a friend. The breeder said he was a good
>bird, doesn't bite and is calm. I got the total opposite. Any help
>would be greatly appreciated. Angela

This seasons harvest of Nemeth Farms spray millet is coming out of the
drying rooms.
I will have it available for sale starting Oct.31
Contact me privately with your zip code # and how many pounds you want
and I will quote you a price including shipping.
The millet doesn't get any fresher than this !

Karen Perna
NuFeathersAviary

Hi Joey,
Happy Easter to you too!  Nothing new here - all the babies I had are now
weaned - been keeping them on my dining room table so they'll at least get a
little interaction.  Two of the rr girls, in particular, love to attack my
fingers when I'm changing the food and water - so I grab them out and give
them a skritch, which they accept pretty willingly.  One thing I have
noticed is that the lutinos are generally friendlier, and stay friendlier,
than the normals.  Well, off to go buy Easter dinner - have a great weekend
all! :-)
Pat
Aurora (male dusky pi) & Nila (female dusky pi)
Pandora (bh caique)
Boca (male, Timneh AG)
Scruffy (quaker)
Goliath (linnie)
Sprouter and sprout mixes:  www.forfidssakes.com

Hey Group,

     I just wanted to wish each of you a Happy Easter.  Hope all is well and
every birdie is well.
Anyone have any new babies?  I'm up to two new baby red-rumpies.  Their
first time laying and both fertile eggs hatched and are being fed very well.

     Have a great and safe Easter Holiday  :  )

Joey B
Jonesboro, AR

http://www.southernlittlegems.com
contact@...
Group Owner:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Neophema_GrassParakeets/

Randy,

Welcome to the group. I hope you enjoy being with us.
I know a little about you and your birds but the rest of the group probably
doesn't know much, so would you introduce yourself and tell everyone what
you raise.

Thank You, and have a great night.

Joey B
Jonesboro, AR

http://www.southernlittlegems.com
contact@southernlittlegems.com
Group Owner:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Neophema_GrassParakeets/

I have a pair of normal Bourke's on eggs.  Last time I looked, there
were 5 of them in there.  This is a first time for this pair, but
both were paired with other mates last year.  I separated to give the
other hen a rest, and to try the hen with a different male as all her
eggs last year were infertile.  I need to get more nest boxes up.
Just too busy with work and my rabbits, horses, dogs... you get the
picture ;-).

Carie



>Hey Group,
>
>I've got a new baby red-rump. It hatched on Friday. She laid 5 eggs
>and only two were fertile, their first time breeding. Maybe I'll get
>another baby, if not, one is better than none. I've got two other pairs
>that have laid one egg each. Does anyone have anything going on?
>
>Have a great night
>
>Joey B
>Jonesboro, AR