Mona,

When you are directed to a yahoo groups site, don't
you have to subscribe to get into it?  That puts me
off when I want to know more but have to put in my
name, email address, interests, etc. 

Suzanne


--- Douglas Delgado <Dougandmona@...> wrote:

> Okay.....
>
> Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the Seattle
> Flyers because Bird
> Talk had heard about the group and was interested in
> it.    A friend
> referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with
> Rose, one of Bird Talk's
> editors.
>
> Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.  
> She is going to put our
> group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants a
> good picture of Babylon
> flying to go with the news item.  (She has a Senegal
> - and I wish I had
> better pictures, darn!)
>
> I told her that we have two fly groups in Seattle
> but that we are the only
> one that has a building.  I emphasized that the name
> of our group was
> Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could contact
> us by joining the
> yahoogroups.
>
> I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight and I
> told her that our group
> was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told her
> that our health policy
> is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a vet
> check by a veterinarian
> that specialized in avians and we will also require
> well bird exams every 18
> months thereafter.  I also told her that we would
> prefer that the avian vet
> be board certified but that we do understand that
> there are excellent avian
> vets out there that are not board certified and that
> some areas do not have
> a board certified vet available so we will make
> exceptions as long as the
> vet has a good reputation.
>
> She asked me questions like "How did the group get
> started?"  "Why do I
> fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to flying
> in a group?"
>
> I told her that I first heard about it through the
> freeflight list and I
> told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the
> reason I fly is because I
> just love having my birds do big loops and come back
> to me.   I told her
> that the drawbacks are that health issues can become
> contentious and that it
> is difficult to find A) A group of people who want
> to fly their birds and B)
> a building.     I also suggested National Guard
> Armories and she said that
> she knew a lot of bird groups were using them for
> bird fairs, etc. in
> Florida and other states.
>
> We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I can't
> remember everything I
> said....I know I was very enthusiastic about flight
> and I was encouraging
> her to work with her Senegal so he can become
> flighted.   He is a five year
> old rescue.
>
> So....This first little bit is just going to come up
> as a "news item".   In
> April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and
> offered to write some
> articles on flight training and working with birds
> in a fly building.   Bird
> Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I
> emailed it to Rose....so, they
> may want me to write some more articles but she has
> to meet with her group
> and they will decide.
>
> So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.
>
>
> Mona in Seattle
> Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
> Pretty Rita Cockatiel
> Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
> Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>


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Well, Birdtalk just emailed me and now they want me to write an article on
how to teach recall, targeting to a perch and flighted retrieves.....

I guess I gotta get to work....LOL.....

Thanks Tom for the encouragement.

Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with Bird Talk Magazine
>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:59:37 -0700
>
>You did good Mona.  We are going to let you continue representing our group
>:-)
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Douglas Delgado
>   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:51 AM
>   Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with Bird Talk Magazine
>
>
>   Okay.....
>
>   Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the Seattle Flyers because Bird
>   Talk had heard about the group and was interested in it.    A friend
>   referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with Rose, one of Bird Talk's
>   editors.
>
>   Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.    She is going to put
>our
>   group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants a good picture of
>Babylon
>   flying to go with the news item.  (She has a Senegal - and I wish I had
>   better pictures, darn!)
>
>   I told her that we have two fly groups in Seattle but that we are the
>only
>   one that has a building.  I emphasized that the name of our group was
>   Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could contact us by joining the
>   yahoogroups.
>
>   I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight and I told her that our
>group
>   was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told her that our health
>policy
>   is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a vet check by a
>veterinarian
>   that specialized in avians and we will also require well bird exams
>every 18
>   months thereafter.  I also told her that we would prefer that the avian
>vet
>   be board certified but that we do understand that there are excellent
>avian
>   vets out there that are not board certified and that some areas do not
>have
>   a board certified vet available so we will make exceptions as long as
>the
>   vet has a good reputation.
>
>   She asked me questions like "How did the group get started?"  "Why do I
>   fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to flying in a group?"
>
>   I told her that I first heard about it through the freeflight list and I
>   told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the reason I fly is because
>I
>   just love having my birds do big loops and come back to me.   I told her
>   that the drawbacks are that health issues can become contentious and
>that it
>   is difficult to find A) A group of people who want to fly their birds
>and B)
>   a building.     I also suggested National Guard Armories and she said
>that
>   she knew a lot of bird groups were using them for bird fairs, etc. in
>   Florida and other states.
>
>   We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I can't remember everything
>I
>   said....I know I was very enthusiastic about flight and I was
>encouraging
>   her to work with her Senegal so he can become flighted.   He is a five
>year
>   old rescue.
>
>   So....This first little bit is just going to come up as a "news item".  
>In
>   April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and offered to write some
>   articles on flight training and working with birds in a fly building.  
>Bird
>   Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I emailed it to Rose....so,
>they
>   may want me to write some more articles but she has to meet with her
>group
>   and they will decide.
>
>   So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.
>
>
>   Mona in Seattle
>   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
>   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
>   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
>   Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
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>
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthwestAvianFlyers/
>
>     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
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>Service.
>

Mona,

When you are directed to a yahoo groups site, don't
you have to subscribe to get into it?  That puts me
off when I want to know more but have to put in my
name, email address, interests, etc.

Suzanne


--- Douglas Delgado <Dougandmona@...> wrote:

> Okay.....
>
> Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the Seattle
> Flyers because Bird
> Talk had heard about the group and was interested in
> it.    A friend
> referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with
> Rose, one of Bird Talk's
> editors.
>
> Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.
> She is going to put our
> group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants a
> good picture of Babylon
> flying to go with the news item.  (She has a Senegal
> - and I wish I had
> better pictures, darn!)
>
> I told her that we have two fly groups in Seattle
> but that we are the only
> one that has a building.  I emphasized that the name
> of our group was
> Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could contact
> us by joining the
> yahoogroups.
>
> I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight and I
> told her that our group
> was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told her
> that our health policy
> is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a vet
> check by a veterinarian
> that specialized in avians and we will also require
> well bird exams every 18
> months thereafter.  I also told her that we would
> prefer that the avian vet
> be board certified but that we do understand that
> there are excellent avian
> vets out there that are not board certified and that
> some areas do not have
> a board certified vet available so we will make
> exceptions as long as the
> vet has a good reputation.
>
> She asked me questions like "How did the group get
> started?"  "Why do I
> fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to flying
> in a group?"
>
> I told her that I first heard about it through the
> freeflight list and I
> told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the
> reason I fly is because I
> just love having my birds do big loops and come back
> to me.   I told her
> that the drawbacks are that health issues can become
> contentious and that it
> is difficult to find A) A group of people who want
> to fly their birds and B)
> a building.     I also suggested National Guard
> Armories and she said that
> she knew a lot of bird groups were using them for
> bird fairs, etc. in
> Florida and other states.
>
> We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I can't
> remember everything I
> said....I know I was very enthusiastic about flight
> and I was encouraging
> her to work with her Senegal so he can become
> flighted.   He is a five year
> old rescue.
>
> So....This first little bit is just going to come up
> as a "news item".   In
> April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and
> offered to write some
> articles on flight training and working with birds
> in a fly building.   Bird
> Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I
> emailed it to Rose....so, they
> may want me to write some more articles but she has
> to meet with her group
> and they will decide.
>
> So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.
>
>
> Mona in Seattle
> Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
> Pretty Rita Cockatiel
> Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
> Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>


__________________________________________________
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I second Tom's remark Mona!  I always thought you were
the best representative a group could possibly have
when advertising to the public.

Suzanne



--- Douglas Delgado <Dougandmona@...> wrote:

> Well, Birdtalk just emailed me and now they want me
> to write an article on
> how to teach recall, targeting to a perch and
> flighted retrieves.....
>
> I guess I gotta get to work....LOL.....
>
> Thanks Tom for the encouragement.
>
> Mona in Seattle
> Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
> Pretty Rita Cockatiel
> Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
> Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
> >Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with
> Bird Talk Magazine
> >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:59:37 -0700
> >
> >You did good Mona.  We are going to let you
> continue representing our group
> >:-)
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Douglas Delgado
> >   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:51 AM
> >   Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with
> Bird Talk Magazine
> >
> >
> >   Okay.....
> >
> >   Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the
> Seattle Flyers because Bird
> >   Talk had heard about the group and was
> interested in it.    A friend
> >   referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with
> Rose, one of Bird Talk's
> >   editors.
> >
> >   Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.
>   She is going to put
> >our
> >   group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants
> a good picture of
> >Babylon
> >   flying to go with the news item.  (She has a
> Senegal - and I wish I had
> >   better pictures, darn!)
> >
> >   I told her that we have two fly groups in
> Seattle but that we are the
> >only
> >   one that has a building.  I emphasized that the
> name of our group was
> >   Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could
> contact us by joining the
> >   yahoogroups.
> >
> >   I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight
> and I told her that our
> >group
> >   was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told
> her that our health
> >policy
> >   is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a
> vet check by a
> >veterinarian
> >   that specialized in avians and we will also
> require well bird exams
> >every 18
> >   months thereafter.  I also told her that we
> would prefer that the avian
> >vet
> >   be board certified but that we do understand
> that there are excellent
> >avian
> >   vets out there that are not board certified and
> that some areas do not
> >have
> >   a board certified vet available so we will make
> exceptions as long as
> >the
> >   vet has a good reputation.
> >
> >   She asked me questions like "How did the group
> get started?"  "Why do I
> >   fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to
> flying in a group?"
> >
> >   I told her that I first heard about it through
> the freeflight list and I
> >   told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the
> reason I fly is because
> >I
> >   just love having my birds do big loops and come
> back to me.   I told her
> >   that the drawbacks are that health issues can
> become contentious and
> >that it
> >   is difficult to find A) A group of people who
> want to fly their birds
> >and B)
> >   a building.     I also suggested National Guard
> Armories and she said
> >that
> >   she knew a lot of bird groups were using them
> for bird fairs, etc. in
> >   Florida and other states.
> >
> >   We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I
> can't remember everything
> >I
> >   said....I know I was very enthusiastic about
> flight and I was
> >encouraging
> >   her to work with her Senegal so he can become
> flighted.   He is a five
> >year
> >   old rescue.
> >
> >   So....This first little bit is just going to
> come up as a "news item".
> >In
> >   April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and
> offered to write some
> >   articles on flight training and working with
> birds in a fly building.
> >Bird
> >   Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I
> emailed it to Rose....so,
> >they
> >   may want me to write some more articles but she
> has to meet with her
> >group
> >   and they will decide.
> >
> >   So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.
> >
> >
> >   Mona in Seattle
> >   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
> >   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
> >   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
> >   Doug (spousal unit)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthwestAvianFlyers/
> >
> >     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an
> email to:
> >
> NorthwestAvianFlyers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> the Yahoo! Terms of
> >Service.
> >
>
>
>




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Well, Birdtalk just emailed me and now they want me to write an article on
how to teach recall, targeting to a perch and flighted retrieves.....

I guess I gotta get to work....LOL.....

Thanks Tom for the encouragement.

Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with Bird Talk Magazine
>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:59:37 -0700
>
>You did good Mona.  We are going to let you continue representing our group
>:-)
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Douglas Delgado
>   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:51 AM
>   Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with Bird Talk Magazine
>
>
>   Okay.....
>
>   Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the Seattle Flyers because Bird
>   Talk had heard about the group and was interested in it.    A friend
>   referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with Rose, one of Bird Talk's
>   editors.
>
>   Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.    She is going to put
>our
>   group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants a good picture of
>Babylon
>   flying to go with the news item.  (She has a Senegal - and I wish I had
>   better pictures, darn!)
>
>   I told her that we have two fly groups in Seattle but that we are the
>only
>   one that has a building.  I emphasized that the name of our group was
>   Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could contact us by joining the
>   yahoogroups.
>
>   I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight and I told her that our
>group
>   was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told her that our health
>policy
>   is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a vet check by a
>veterinarian
>   that specialized in avians and we will also require well bird exams
>every 18
>   months thereafter.  I also told her that we would prefer that the avian
>vet
>   be board certified but that we do understand that there are excellent
>avian
>   vets out there that are not board certified and that some areas do not
>have
>   a board certified vet available so we will make exceptions as long as
>the
>   vet has a good reputation.
>
>   She asked me questions like "How did the group get started?"  "Why do I
>   fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to flying in a group?"
>
>   I told her that I first heard about it through the freeflight list and I
>   told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the reason I fly is because
>I
>   just love having my birds do big loops and come back to me.   I told her
>   that the drawbacks are that health issues can become contentious and
>that it
>   is difficult to find A) A group of people who want to fly their birds
>and B)
>   a building.     I also suggested National Guard Armories and she said
>that
>   she knew a lot of bird groups were using them for bird fairs, etc. in
>   Florida and other states.
>
>   We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I can't remember everything
>I
>   said....I know I was very enthusiastic about flight and I was
>encouraging
>   her to work with her Senegal so he can become flighted.   He is a five
>year
>   old rescue.
>
>   So....This first little bit is just going to come up as a "news item".
>In
>   April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and offered to write some
>   articles on flight training and working with birds in a fly building.
>Bird
>   Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I emailed it to Rose....so,
>they
>   may want me to write some more articles but she has to meet with her
>group
>   and they will decide.
>
>   So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.
>
>
>   Mona in Seattle
>   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
>   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
>   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
>   Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthwestAvianFlyers/
>
>     b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>     NorthwestAvianFlyers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>Service.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:51 AM

Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Intereview with Bird Talk Magazine

Okay.....

Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the Seattle Flyers because Bird
Talk had heard about the group and was interested in it.    A friend
referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with Rose, one of Bird Talk's
editors.

Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.    She is going to put our
group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants a good picture of Babylon
flying to go with the news item.  (She has a Senegal - and I wish I had
better pictures, darn!)

I told her that we have two fly groups in Seattle but that we are the only
one that has a building.  I emphasized that the name of our group was
Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could contact us by joining the
yahoogroups.

I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight and I told her that our group
was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told her that our health policy
is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a vet check by a veterinarian
that specialized in avians and we will also require well bird exams every 18
months thereafter.  I also told her that we would prefer that the avian vet
be board certified but that we do understand that there are excellent avian
vets out there that are not board certified and that some areas do not have
a board certified vet available so we will make exceptions as long as the
vet has a good reputation.

She asked me questions like "How did the group get started?"  "Why do I
fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to flying in a group?"

I told her that I first heard about it through the freeflight list and I
told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the reason I fly is because I
just love having my birds do big loops and come back to me.   I told her
that the drawbacks are that health issues can become contentious and that it
is difficult to find A) A group of people who want to fly their birds and B)
a building.     I also suggested National Guard Armories and she said that
she knew a lot of bird groups were using them for bird fairs, etc. in
Florida and other states.

We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I can't remember everything I
said....I know I was very enthusiastic about flight and I was encouraging
her to work with her Senegal so he can become flighted.   He is a five year
old rescue.

So....This first little bit is just going to come up as a "news item".   In
April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and offered to write some
articles on flight training and working with birds in a fly building.   Bird
Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I emailed it to Rose....so, they
may want me to write some more articles but she has to meet with her group
and they will decide.

So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

Okay.....

Liz Wilson was looking for a contact for the Seattle Flyers because Bird
Talk had heard about the group and was interested in it.    A friend
referred Liz to me and Liz put me in touch with Rose, one of Bird Talk's
editors.

Rose and I talked for about an hour last night.    She is going to put our
group into Bird Talk as a news item.  She wants a good picture of Babylon
flying to go with the news item.  (She has a Senegal - and I wish I had
better pictures, darn!)

I told her that we have two fly groups in Seattle but that we are the only
one that has a building.  I emphasized that the name of our group was
Northwest Avian Flyers and that people could contact us by joining the
yahoogroups.

I also showed her Nate's www.flyday.org sight and I told her that our group
was very similar in makeup to Nate's.    I told her that our health policy
is a lot less restrictive.   We will require a vet check by a veterinarian
that specialized in avians and we will also require well bird exams every 18
months thereafter.  I also told her that we would prefer that the avian vet
be board certified but that we do understand that there are excellent avian
vets out there that are not board certified and that some areas do not have
a board certified vet available so we will make exceptions as long as the
vet has a good reputation.

She asked me questions like "How did the group get started?"  "Why do I
fly?" and "What are some of the drawbacks to flying in a group?"

I told her that I first heard about it through the freeflight list and I
told her about Chris Biro.   I told her that the reason I fly is because I
just love having my birds do big loops and come back to me.   I told her
that the drawbacks are that health issues can become contentious and that it
is difficult to find A) A group of people who want to fly their birds and B)
a building.     I also suggested National Guard Armories and she said that
she knew a lot of bird groups were using them for bird fairs, etc. in
Florida and other states.

We talked about a lot of other stuff.....but I can't remember everything I
said....I know I was very enthusiastic about flight and I was encouraging
her to work with her Senegal so he can become flighted.   He is a five year
old rescue.

So....This first little bit is just going to come up as a "news item".   In
April 2004, I sent Bird Talk a Query letter and offered to write some
articles on flight training and working with birds in a fly building.   Bird
Talk never acknowledged the query letter so I emailed it to Rose....so, they
may want me to write some more articles but she has to meet with her group
and they will decide.

So....that's all I know....Thanks guys.


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 AM

Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] in Parrots Magazine

Hi guys....I wrote this article about six months ago.....but FYI, it's going
to be in the upcoming Parrots Magazine.   I think the photos came from
Andrew, Bonnie and my friend Ron......

FYI.....Thx

________________________________________________


Hi Mona

This is just a quick email to let you know that your article is
going to
appear in issue 90 (July) of Parrots magazine, which is at the
printers at
the moment. Can you please send me your full address?

Many thanks,
Jess

Jess White
Editor, Parrots magazine
Imax Limited





Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:45 PM

Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Suggested Reading File

I modified the Suggested Reading file that is sent to all new members that
join freeflight (I wrote it) and I added it to the Northwest Avian Flyers.  
It will be sent out to any new members.

You guys can take a look at it by going into yahoogroups and into
files......See if you think I should add or take anything out.....

Thanks.


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

That is a good one.


--- Douglas Delgado <Dougandmona@...> wrote:

> Here's a diet website I found....What do you guys
> think about this?
>
> http://www.whitewingsfarm.com/feedfeathers.html
>
>
>
> Mona in Seattle
> Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
> Pretty Rita Cockatiel
> Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
> Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Douglas Delgado" <Dougandmona@...>
> >Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
> >To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Dr. Bennett's
> health recommendations are in
> >the file
> >Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:45:50 -0700
> >
>
>
>




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No...It's a yahoogroups called Feeding Feathers....I thought maybe you were
on it....

Maybe I'm just mixed up....LOL..

Thx



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: The Goodwin's <ksgoodwin@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Dr. Bennett's health recommendations
>are in the file
>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
>

--- Douglas Delgado <Dougandmona@...> wrote:

> link?    I'm not on
> Feeding Feathers (yahoogroups).  I think you are on
> it Suzanne, How is it?
>
Do you mean feathered forum?





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Here's a diet website I found....What do you guys think about this?

http://www.whitewingsfarm.com/feedfeathers.html



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Douglas Delgado" <Dougandmona@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Dr. Bennett's health recommendations are in
>the file
>Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:45:50 -0700
>

I posted Dr. Bennett's health recommendations into the file along with her
credentials.

At this point, they are just in the files.   I'm not going to set them up to
go out to new members or anything yet...(not that we have any new members -
grin)

I want to make a statement to the effect that the best defense against viral
diseases is a good offense.    In other words, it is important to develop
the bird's immune system.   This can be done through diet and exercise.

Do any of you guys know a good diet website we could link?    I'm not on
Feeding Feathers (yahoogroups).  I think you are on it Suzanne, How is it?

I am still waiting for Dr. Ritchie's book on avian viruses to come in the
mail and I'm still waiting to see what Dr. Bennett emails regarding all of
this stuff.   I think once we get that info., I can borrow passages, etc.
for a welcome message.   Just some thoughts........

Thanks.


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the NorthwestAvianFlyers
group.

   File        : /Welcome to Northwest Avian Flyers.doc
   Uploaded by : dougandmona <Dougandmona@...>
   Description : Suggested Readings on the Web

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthwestAvianFlyers/files/Welcome%20to%20Northwes\
t%20Avian%20Flyers.doc

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

dougandmona <Dougandmona@...>

Hi guys....I wrote this article about six months ago.....but FYI, it's going
to be in the upcoming Parrots Magazine.   I think the photos came from
Andrew, Bonnie and my friend Ron......

FYI.....Thx

________________________________________________


Hi Mona

This is just a quick email to let you know that your article is
going to
appear in issue 90 (July) of Parrots magazine, which is at the
printers at
the moment. Can you please send me your full address?

Many thanks,
Jess

Jess White
Editor, Parrots magazine
Imax Limited





Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:12 PM

Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Something a little light.....

I read this on another list.

The DEA found a large shipment of marijuana.   They decided to take the
shipment and burn it on the beach immediately.    There happened to be a
flock of terns nearby.   To their horror, the DEA found that the terns were
flying in and out of the smoke as the pot burned.   The DEA did an
investigation and found their worst fears were realized,  they found that no
tern was left unstoned......

I forget jokes after two days so I had to send this out soon....LOL.....

Sorry...Thx


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

I modified the Suggested Reading file that is sent to all new members that
join freeflight (I wrote it) and I added it to the Northwest Avian Flyers.
It will be sent out to any new members.

You guys can take a look at it by going into yahoogroups and into
files......See if you think I should add or take anything out.....

Thanks.


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

I read this on another list.

The DEA found a large shipment of marijuana.   They decided to take the
shipment and burn it on the beach immediately.    There happened to be a
flock of terns nearby.   To their horror, the DEA found that the terns were
flying in and out of the smoke as the pot burned.   The DEA did an
investigation and found their worst fears were realized,  they found that no
tern was left unstoned......

I forget jokes after two days so I had to send this out soon....LOL.....

Sorry...Thx


Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

Thx



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photos
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:42:17 -0700
>
>Done,
>tb
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Douglas Delgado
>   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:15 PM
>   Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photos
>
>
>   I'd rather have the photo of Elliott but I can't upload it because I
>have to
>   save it to my computer and then it comes up as a .bmp and I can't upload
>   .bmp's....
>
>   Would you mind uploading it, Tom?   Just go into
>Management.....Description
>   and Appearance.....when you hit that you will see the photo of Gary and
>   Mango.....just hit the edit button and it should let you upload the
>picture
>   of Elliott......
>
>   You sent me a .jpg but I can't upload from email and in the process of
>   transferring it to my C drive it becomes a .bmp for some odd
>reason......
>
>   Thx
>
>
>
>   Mona in Seattle
>   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
>   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
>   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
>   Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
>   >From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
>   >Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
>   >Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photos
>   >Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:58:50 -0700
>   >
>   >I have a couple of Elliott flying but he is kind of small in the
>pictures.
>   >Tom
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Douglas Delgado
>   >   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:41 PM
>   >   Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photo
>   >
>   >
>   >   I put a photo of Gary and Mango on the NWflyers list.   My friend
>Ron
>   >took
>   >   the picture.
>   >
>   >   If you guys have any of your birds in flight....go ahead and replace
>it.
>   >   I
>   >   just felt bad that we didn't have a picture up yet......and this one
>was
>   >the
>   >   only one I had here at work that was a .jpg of a flighted
>bird.......
>   >
>   >   Thanks.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   Mona in Seattle
>   >   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
>   >   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
>   >   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
>   >   Doug (spousal unit)
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
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>   >
>   ><< ElliottLooking.jpg >>
>   ><< CopyofElliott1.jpg >>
>
>
>
>
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>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photos

I'd rather have the photo of Elliott but I can't upload it because I have to
save it to my computer and then it comes up as a .bmp and I can't upload
.bmp's....

Would you mind uploading it, Tom?   Just go into Management.....Description
and Appearance.....when you hit that you will see the photo of Gary and
Mango.....just hit the edit button and it should let you upload the picture
of Elliott......

You sent me a .jpg but I can't upload from email and in the process of
transferring it to my C drive it becomes a .bmp for some odd reason......

Thx



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photos
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:58:50 -0700
>
>I have a couple of Elliott flying but he is kind of small in the pictures.
>Tom
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Douglas Delgado
>   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:41 PM
>   Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photo
>
>
>   I put a photo of Gary and Mango on the NWflyers list.   My friend Ron
>took
>   the picture.
>
>   If you guys have any of your birds in flight....go ahead and replace it.
>   I
>   just felt bad that we didn't have a picture up yet......and this one was
>the
>   only one I had here at work that was a .jpg of a flighted bird.......
>
>   Thanks.
>
>
>
>   Mona in Seattle
>   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
>   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
>   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
>   Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
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><< ElliottLooking.jpg >>
><< CopyofElliott1.jpg >>

I'd rather have the photo of Elliott but I can't upload it because I have to
save it to my computer and then it comes up as a .bmp and I can't upload
.bmp's....

Would you mind uploading it, Tom?   Just go into Management.....Description
and Appearance.....when you hit that you will see the photo of Gary and
Mango.....just hit the edit button and it should let you upload the picture
of Elliott......

You sent me a .jpg but I can't upload from email and in the process of
transferring it to my C drive it becomes a .bmp for some odd reason......

Thx



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Tom Beard" <tomasbeard@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: <NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photos
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:58:50 -0700
>
>I have a couple of Elliott flying but he is kind of small in the pictures.
>Tom
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Douglas Delgado
>   To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:41 PM
>   Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photo
>
>
>   I put a photo of Gary and Mango on the NWflyers list.   My friend Ron
>took
>   the picture.
>
>   If you guys have any of your birds in flight....go ahead and replace it.
>   I
>   just felt bad that we didn't have a picture up yet......and this one was
>the
>   only one I had here at work that was a .jpg of a flighted bird.......
>
>   Thanks.
>
>
>
>   Mona in Seattle
>   Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
>   Pretty Rita Cockatiel
>   Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
>   Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>
>
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>
>     a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
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>
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>     NorthwestAvianFlyers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>     c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
>Service.
>
><< ElliottLooking.jpg >>
><< CopyofElliott1.jpg >>

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:41 PM

Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Photo

I put a photo of Gary and Mango on the NWflyers list.   My friend Ron took
the picture.

If you guys have any of your birds in flight....go ahead and replace it.   I
just felt bad that we didn't have a picture up yet......and this one was the
only one I had here at work that was a .jpg of a flighted bird.......

Thanks.



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

I put a photo of Gary and Mango on the NWflyers list.   My friend Ron took
the picture.

If you guys have any of your birds in flight....go ahead and replace it.   I
just felt bad that we didn't have a picture up yet......and this one was the
only one I had here at work that was a .jpg of a flighted bird.......

Thanks.



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

Yuck....Hang in there.....

Hopefully, you will get some good medications and lots of good sleep.

I found a lot of good websites on PBFD yesterday and I read and read and
read.  If anybody gets bored, the BEST index on the web to find just about
anything having to do with parrots is:

http://www.oldworldaviaries.com/text/bookmarks/bookmark.html

From everything that I read, the majority of birds that contract the virus
shed it and then gain immunity.   The big problem with the disease is in a
nursery environment because the babies absorb the virus into their
bursas....(I'm not sure but I think that's around the choacal area).   Some
babies develop immunity and some do not.   One article that I read said that
a lot of the danger is past after the bird fledges.

Another article I read said that you can do a lot of tests but that the
tests have no way to know whether the virus is "alive" or "dead".......since
virus aren't alive, I guess they mean "active" or "inactive'.     They said
that a lot of these tests pick up the "dead" virus.......

Anyway, I read quite a few articles from people who had nursery environments
infected by the disease.    With the exception of the lories - which is a
completely different strain and decimated the Tacoma Zoo exhibit - (very
interesting story) - PBFD would kill the infected birds and although the
other birds in the home would test positive for the disease, most of these
birds eventually shed the virus and tested negative.    From everything that
I have read, I have to think that PBFD is extremely dangerous in a nursery
environment - and any breeder that has it is extremely unfortunate -( but
they shouldn't be persecuted because it can happen to any breeder really).
Also, most important, PBFD is NOT a death sentence and a lot of birds test
positive but never contract the disease.    A positive test does NOT equal
the disease.    Also, the disease is not really that common....and it is on
the decline in the U.S. (despite the fact that apparently the viral
particles are everywhere...especially if you read Ernie Colaizzi's article
about the extreme dangers of bird fairs - and apparently reptile exhibits,
raffle tables (without birds present), bird club meetings (without birds
present), etc......  LOL).....

Best prevention is: Get your babies from a closed aviary.   Feed a good
diet.   Help your birds develop a good strong immune system via exercise,
diet, etc.......

Okay....Take care Suzanne.   I hope that root canal goes easy.

Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: The Goodwin's <ksgoodwin@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] Dr. Bennett's Health Recommendations
>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT)
>

Mona, glad you found them.  They look pretty sound to
me.  I'd still like to collect people's papers and
store them in a binder.  Maybe not in the fly building
though since that box gets ravaged regularly it
appears.  I'd like each person's papers stored in a
separate glassine.  The binder can be held by either
you or me, but I'm a good organizer, and don't like to
post much, so it would give me a job to do, unless you
would prefer to do it.

I'm having a root canal done today and will be home
afterwards - taking the day off from work.  Wish me
luck!

Suzanne



--- Douglas Delgado <Dougandmona@...> wrote:
> .....and since I finally found this in my
> files...I'm going to repost Dr.
> Bennett's recommendations for health requirements
> for the flyers.   I think
> these are good veterinarian guidelines and anybody
> who flies should be aware
> of them:
>
> Recommendations for Seattle Fliers
>
> 1. Exam performed by an avian veterinarian, annually
>
> 2. CBC (Complete Blood Count), annually
>
> 3. Chemistries (liver values, kidney, Total protein,
> Calcium, Ck,
> cholesterol), annually
>
> 4. Cultures (choana and cloaca) annually
>
> 5. PBFD test if under 1 year of age or newly
> purchased (less than 6 months)
> and is an old world species, one time.
>
> 6. I recommend Eclectus have the polyoma vaccine for
> their own protection
> due to their high susceptibility to this disease.
>
> 7. I would not allow birds under 1 year of age or
> newly purchased birds
> (under 6 months) into the club until they are older
> or have been in the home
> over 6 months and had the above tests.  For young
> birds this is for their
> own protection as well.
>
> 8. If a member acquires a new bird they must
> quarantine for at least 3
> months and have an avian veterinarian check after
> quarantine(As well as
> completing above tests).
>
> 9. Unfortunately I would recommend that Budgies,
> Lovebirds and Parrotlets
> not be allowed in the club with larger parrots (if
> there is enough interest
> maybe they could have their own session and we could
> recommend specific
> testing for those species at that time)and that
> cockatiels initially have a
> Chlamydiophila panel (including PCR) since they are
> known carriers of this
> disease.
>
> 10. I would have a veterinarian review new members
> on a case-by-case basis
> and recommend further testing if indicated.
>
> 11. I would devise a health card where the
> veterinarian can make a statement
> like "to the best of my ability this bird appears
> healthy and free of
> contagious disease".  Also I would have check boxes
> for recommended tests
> and a place for the DVM to indicate if further
> testing was done.  I would
> also have blanks for subsequent years so the DVM can
> easily fill it in.  I
> think it is OK to give people 1 year to 18 months to
> complete annual exams
> once they are an established member.
>
> 12. I would ask members not to take their birds
> anywhere else where the bird
> will be in the same immediate area as untested birds
> (pet stores, bird clubs
> etc) or allow untested birds in their home.  Also, I
> would ask members only
> to board their birds at places that require testing
> (Denise's, Wings N'
> Things, Charlene Lamb, others?).
>
> Lastly, I want everyone to understand that this will
> never be a guaranteed
> disease free situation and that each member needs to
> weigh the physical and
> mental benefits against the possibility of disease.
> I believe the plan I've
> laid out is a reasonable one that minimizes the risk
> of disease since you
> can NEVER totally eliminate that risk anytime an
> animal is in close
> proximity to other animals.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Tracy Bennett DVM Diplomate ABVP - avian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mona in Seattle
> Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
> Pretty Rita Cockatiel
> Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
> Doug (spousal unit)
>
>
>



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----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Delgado

To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:32 PM

Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] First....Test Message

Okay...I think I am going to try and set you both up as co-moderators in a
bit....

That way, if anybody has a good picture to set up on the Group
Description....you can!

Thanks.



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

.....and since I finally found this in my files...I'm going to repost Dr.
Bennett's recommendations for health requirements for the flyers.   I think
these are good veterinarian guidelines and anybody who flies should be aware
of them:

Recommendations for Seattle Fliers

1. Exam performed by an avian veterinarian, annually

2. CBC (Complete Blood Count), annually

3. Chemistries (liver values, kidney, Total protein, Calcium, Ck,
cholesterol), annually

4. Cultures (choana and cloaca) annually

5. PBFD test if under 1 year of age or newly purchased (less than 6 months)
and is an old world species, one time.

6. I recommend Eclectus have the polyoma vaccine for their own protection
due to their high susceptibility to this disease.

7. I would not allow birds under 1 year of age or newly purchased birds
(under 6 months) into the club until they are older or have been in the home
over 6 months and had the above tests.  For young birds this is for their
own protection as well.

8. If a member acquires a new bird they must quarantine for at least 3
months and have an avian veterinarian check after quarantine(As well as
completing above tests).

9. Unfortunately I would recommend that Budgies, Lovebirds and Parrotlets
not be allowed in the club with larger parrots (if there is enough interest
maybe they could have their own session and we could recommend specific
testing for those species at that time)and that cockatiels initially have a
Chlamydiophila panel (including PCR) since they are known carriers of this
disease.

10. I would have a veterinarian review new members on a case-by-case basis
and recommend further testing if indicated.

11. I would devise a health card where the veterinarian can make a statement
like "to the best of my ability this bird appears healthy and free of
contagious disease".  Also I would have check boxes for recommended tests
and a place for the DVM to indicate if further testing was done.  I would
also have blanks for subsequent years so the DVM can easily fill it in.  I
think it is OK to give people 1 year to 18 months to complete annual exams
once they are an established member.

12. I would ask members not to take their birds anywhere else where the bird
will be in the same immediate area as untested birds (pet stores, bird clubs
etc) or allow untested birds in their home.  Also, I would ask members only
to board their birds at places that require testing (Denise's, Wings N'
Things, Charlene Lamb, others?).

Lastly, I want everyone to understand that this will never be a guaranteed
disease free situation and that each member needs to weigh the physical and
mental benefits against the possibility of disease.  I believe the plan I've
laid out is a reasonable one that minimizes the risk of disease since you
can NEVER totally eliminate that risk anytime an animal is in close
proximity to other animals.



Sincerely,



Tracy Bennett DVM Diplomate ABVP - avian









Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)

Wah Lah!  You are both co-moderators!

In this group, we are all the kings!  LOL.....

Okay....so, if anybody has a good flight picture, go ahead and add it to the
group profile.   I looked through my photos and I don't have any really good
photos of my birds flying here at work.....I have some nice photos, but they
are of Babylon eating a cherry....cute to me....but not quite what I think
we should have on the description page.

Anybody else?  I th ink we need a good picture of a flying bird.....If you
guys don't have any, I do have some pictures that Andrew took of Lonn flying
Shredder at the old fly building but I thought it would be nice to use one
of your birds.......

Thanks

Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)




>From: "Douglas Delgado" <Dougandmona@...>
>Reply-To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>To: NorthwestAvianFlyers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [NorthwestAvianFlyers] First....Test Message
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:32:35 -0700
>

Okay...I think I am going to try and set you both up as co-moderators in a
bit....

That way, if anybody has a good picture to set up on the Group
Description....you can!

Thanks.



Mona in Seattle
Phinneus Fowl (aka Phinney) TAG
Pretty Rita Cockatiel
Babylon (Senegal Poicephalus)
Doug (spousal unit)