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Re: RPW in Caribbean

Dear Hugh!
Yes, you understood right. It was also a surprise for me that they
transport over such a long distance.
A similiar case exist with a hotel complex at the West Coast of
Mexico.
Regarding your question "why", for profit and that new hotel
complexes want to serve the tourists with Bahama feeling for economy
discount. It´s the same game like in southern Europe. The customers
need big palm trees and the price make the decision easy. Mostly the
importers have no knowledge about the risks, but if they are
informed they fear for the loss of benefit and try to play with
pesticides. They fail in general in due to limited informations
regarding the capabilities of the Red Palm Weevil. So they keep the
ball low (like we in Germany say) and underestimate our six legs
friend (enemy).
Regarding your question "who", a landscape gardener with roots in
Europe there I was wondering how he got a contact to Egypt.
The kind of process you can watch also in a lot of regions in
infestations regions in Europe. I got/get a lot of requests from
German palm traders regarding the fact that they do every year
shopping trips for importing palms to Germany (smaller ones there
mostly only greenhouse and room cultivating is possible). When they
are in Spain or Italy like Almeria, Valencia or Catania (only
examples, it´s valid for much more countries and regions) the
distributors of the palms have never a problem with RPW. It´s ever a
guy in neighbour town :-).
The feeding of the own mouth is closer than any responsibility to
the society.
I don´t know how to breakthrough such social defect. Like everybody
know here, the later economic damages for the community are much
higher than any loss of a failed deal.

Best regards,
Benedikt



--- In RPWgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Harries" <harrieshc@...>
wrote:
>
> Benedikt
>
> If I understand you correctly, someone sent thirty date palms from
> Egypt to Curacao?
>
> Why? Who?
>
> More details, please?
>
> Hugh
>
> --- In RPWgroup@yahoogroups.com, "bvonlaar" <laar@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all!
> > The chances for the presence of RPW are very high there I got a
> > request around 2 years ago from
> > an importer of palms. They importet palms from Egypt because
they
> > are cheaper...(so far their arguments).
> > If I remember right then the number of importet palms was 30.
Some
> > of them showed the presence of the
> > blind passenger short after arriving/planting. I advised to
remove
> > this palms at once including a proper waste
> > management and take the other into quarantine for observation.
> > Also they should inform the officials/government about this
> > potential risks.
> > I never heared again something from this guy.
> > Now I resume that they don´t followed the advise and now they
have
> > quite fine problem.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Benedikt von Laar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In RPWgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Harries" <harrieshc@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Vidyasagar
> > >
> > > The picture posted in the Willemstad report appears to be that
of
> > RPW
> > > - but the photo was not from Curacao!
> > >
> > > A Google image search for Rhynchophorus ferrigineus attributes
the
> > > same picture to www.palms.org where it is number one of ten
> > pictures
> > > in an article in the International Palm Scoiety journal
> > > <http://www.palms.org/palmsjournal/2002/ferry_1.jpg>
> > >
> > > With all due respect to Gerard van Buurt, Head of the Fisheries
> > > Sector, Department of Agriculture, Animal Husbandry and
Fisheries,
> > > Curaçao, <gvbuurt@> we need to know made the
> > > identification of the Curacao Rhynchophorus as ferriguneus
[note
> > > mispelling] before going any further.
> > >
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > > --- In RPWgroup@yahoogroups.com, "vidyasagar49"
<vidyasagar49@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Dr. Hugh Harries,
> > > > The vector of red ring disease caused by nematode,
> > Bursaphelenchus
> > > > cocophilus, is Palm weevil, Rhynchophorus palmarum. This
species
> > is
> > > > known to occur in this region for a long time. However, the
> > report from
> > > > Willemstad, Curacao is about Red Palm Weevil, Rhynchophorus
> > ferriguneus.
> > > > The RPW is not implicated in transimission of nematode
> > diseases. The
> > > > picture posted in the Willemstad report appears to be that
of
> > RPW.
> > > > Hence, it should be considered as the appearance of a new
> > species in
> > > > that region.
> > > >
> > > > Vidyasagar, PSPV
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In RPWgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Harries" <harrieshc@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Khalid
> > > > >
> > > > > The article is reporting palm weevil in Curacao but it has
> > been in the
> > > > > Caribbean since the 1960s - in Trinidad, where it is
> > implicated in the
> > > > > spread of the nematode that causes red ring of coconut.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hugh
> > > > > Coconut Time Line http://cocos.arecaceae.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In RPWgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Khalid" alhudaib2002@
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Members:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RPW in Caribbeanş, for more information please go to
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
http://www.redpalmweevil.com/newlook/RPWReport/Caribbean.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dr. Khalid Alhudaib
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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Dear Members: RPW in Caribbeanş, for more information please go to http://www.redpalmweevil.com/newlook/RPWReport/Caribbean.htm Regard Dr. Khalid Alhudaib...
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Khalid The article is reporting palm weevil in Curacao but it has been in the Caribbean since the 1960s - in Trinidad, where it is implicated in the spread of...
Hugh Harries
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Jan 30, 2009
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Dear Dr. Hugh Harries, The vector of red ring disease caused by nematode, Bursaphelenchus cocophilus, is Palm weevil, Rhynchophorus palmarum. This species is ...
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Jan 30, 2009
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Dear Vidyasagar The picture posted in the Willemstad report appears to be that of RPW - but the photo was not from Curacao! A Google image search for...
Hugh Harries
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Jan 31, 2009
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Dear all! The chances for the presence of RPW are very high there I got a request around 2 years ago from an importer of palms. They importet palms from Egypt...
bvonlaar
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Jan 31, 2009
5:44 pm

Benedikt If I understand you correctly, someone sent thirty date palms from Egypt to Curacao? Why? Who? More details, please? Hugh...
Hugh Harries
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Feb 1, 2009
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Dear Hugh! Yes, you understood right. It was also a surprise for me that they transport over such a long distance. A similiar case exist with a hotel complex...
bvonlaar
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Feb 1, 2009
1:44 pm

Dear All, From the information provided, the weevil in the Caribbean is RPW. We agree with the comments of Dr. Benedikt that landscapers in several counties...
Dr. Aziz Ajlan
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Feb 9, 2009
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Dear All We have deviated quite a bit away from our main topic of discussion.  Here the point we want to know is whether the report of R. ferrugineus from...
Dr. Vidyasagar
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Feb 13, 2009
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http://www.redpalmweevil.com/newlook/RPWReport/Caribbean.htm <http://www.redpalmweevil.com/newlook/RPWReport/Caribbean.htm> ... Here the point we want to know...
Dr. Aziz Ajlan
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