I cant tell you how happy and relieved I am that the two are doing so
well.I am dying to see pics of her progress!I adopted Stacik right
before the pics of her surfaced.I fell in love with Stacik and could
not believe that a human being could let a dog get to this
condition.I was truly broken hearted, wondering how she felt
inside,and wondering if she could ever be her true self again.Thank
you again for updating me and please,if you can,post some pics!
Niki and Stacik
PS-Stacik is still doing great here in his new home too,just trying
to keep the big bubba cool an comfy in this 95 degree weather!Ill
will post some cut pics soon!

Divo, which means Miracle, is in her new home for the
past month now.  She is growing, gaining weight,
getting new hair on the bald spots, running and
playing freely on the 50 acre farm, and being indoors
during the hot hours and at night with her adoring
owner.  She rides in the back seat of the truck with
him everywhere he goes, has a playmate or two of the
doggie variety that she loves romping with, and has a
new glow of good health about her now.  The biggest
difference I can see is the HOPE in her
eyes...everyday is a pleasure to wake up to, filled
with only good things, happy things, and all the love
and care and attention she can handle.  Her retired
owner spends all his time with her, and he is THRILLED
with  "the most intelligent dog" he has ever
encountered.  "No bad habits" he says...just a puppy
(age confirmed by the vet at 18 months or less) full
of life and love and energy.  They come to visit me
regularly, and while watchful of her owner, Divo is
certainly not aggressive or hostile...just loving.
She thinks this is heaven, and is enjoying every
minute of her life now.  After all the horrible
suffering, where her true heart and courage to survive
were all that kept her going, she has found a loving
home for life.  Never again does she have to be cold
or wet or starved and abused.....she is treated like a
much beloved child, petted, pampered, spoiled and
indulged.  She is the focus of this man's life.  We
should all have it as good as Divo.

Thanks for your concern....Divo (Whitie) is in the
very BEST of homes, happy right down to her bones.
Vic
--- "Nicole S." <NICKALEENA@...> wrote:
> Hi I was just wondering how that poor girl was
> doing.Last I heard
> someone was going to give her a loving home.I hop
> all worked out for
> her an I would love to see pics of her progress if
> possible?
> Niki and Stacik in Michigan
>
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The SRO is doing great in Georgia gaining weigth and
is protecting the farm/house/owner.

He said she is priceless.

Jeannine

P>S the CAO rescue turned in with the SRO is also
doing well despite severe problems with skin rashes

--- "Nicole S." <NICKALEENA@...> wrote:
> Hi I was just wondering how that poor girl was
> doing.Last I heard
> someone was going to give her a loving home.I hop
> all worked out for
> her an I would love to see pics of her progress if
> possible?
> Niki and Stacik in Michigan
>
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Hi I was just wondering how that poor girl was doing.Last I heard
someone was going to give her a loving home.I hop all worked out for
her an I would love to see pics of her progress if possible?
Niki and Stacik in Michigan

--- Deany1961@... wrote:

>  it is not through anna
> or any small time importer.

Anna is not a small importer
She imports tons of dog of all breeds and exports as
well. She has had crates STUFFED to the gills with
pups in poor condition to arrive here for RESALE.

<  soon you will see the shaggy SRO

The only way SRO will wind up in pet stores like CAO
and CO have is with the help of your friend Anna
Frumina
She has sold every dog from every litter for breeding
we are now on 3 generations she stated of shifty dogs
in rescue. She brokered the SRO to that other woman
you mention and SRO were shot and put in rescue now
how in the hell would the dog wind up dead if Anna did
not broker the dogs to begin with!!!

Without the puppymills we would not have pet store
dogs..You dont get that do you!
Stop the mills Stop store got dogs/.

So in other words without Anna Frumina we would not of
had the CAo-CO DDbX- that she bred found in pet
stores.

You believe in treating the disease I believe in
wiping out the cause of the infection and thus saving
many pain suffering and sometimes death.

You go "wipe" the nose of the dogs dying
I will stop the breeders who bred the dying dog
and save a few on my way & with each save their is 2x
more killed and that makes me angrey!!

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You just dont get it SRO are not a breed that can be
bred this way the temperament and memory is too
strong!!

IF not bred correctly in correct envrioments they are
nothing more than a loaded weapon set to go off at any
time at any one.

You do not have enough work with this breed to take
200 poorly bred SRO and place them in the uSA
Why? cause if their was 200 qualfied homes for the
breed any where in teh world in one place or country
the SAME mills you talk of would have sALES vs
rescues.

Maybe you need to stick with the OEM's you know
nothing of what you do with sRO and you better hold on
to your political favors cause the 1st time a SRO you
placed kills someone the new laws state they can come
after you....

"i got them" Diane no one can follow you convo I
woudld NEVER be so niave & stupid to

A Bring in 200 poorly breed SRO or any breed into this
country
B Work with a known puppymill to do this like you want
to
C Sign my life away knowing when NOT if these dogs go
off I will be held accountable

D you have been talking shit about these so called
rescues that ANNA only Anna informs you about for over
a year.

I know enough people in RKF now sure send me the names
of these people who need help I bet they do not
resemble you 1/4 what you wrote her.
I will call the Pres of the SRO club Elena and call a
conference with RKF if this so called mass rescue
effort of SRO even exist.


JD



--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> JD,
>        > a brush or bath, or regular meal that fill
them up.
> Macree my pure bred OES
> is a former pup millers stud, shorter than my
> sheltie from 9 years in the
> cage.  visit, i can get yopu in. it is an experience
> you really will never
> forget. gives me nightmares. a coule hundred dogs
> line up in what i think
> are "rabbit cages" never released unless to breed!
> seen it been there! now
> an independant pet store owner ? they can get you
> in! see it! Go There!  see
> a puppy mill! see what i fight against.    it will
> happen with the SRO with
> cash. there is cash!   wrong  sure, but i believe
> what i hear from a good
> source.  if you have the $ outbid them! i can not
> stop incoming dogs. wait,
> pray and save what i can!   if this makes me crazy,
> i will be stark raving
> before i willing let a dog die i can help.   i will
> not get all. i beleive in
> reality. some will get great homes that will deal
> with whatever, some will
> die in shelters, some will just die, others we will
> save. (some you will find
> in the petstore dumpster).    you want me to fight a
> mole hill when a
> mountain is in front of me!  onlu on breed in my 27
> 1/2 years of rescue has
> resisted ( credit to breeders) the cash offered to
> mass importe. that was
> several years ago. the french Briard. at the release
> of a chuck norris movie
> staring one(top dog or something like that) the pet
> store importers tried and
> failed! no movie, just a large shaggy white dog they
> figure they can sell
> here.   and i am pulling my Liubka off websites to
> avoid making her look
> pretty and easy! pretty she is! easy she is not!  i
> wait! you critisize if
> you like. if i am wrong hang me! if i am right i
> expect to see you diving in
> to save right along with me! more geography than i
> can cover!    it will not
> be along wait. pup in store, to shelters. and i have
> been sent 3 that may be
> sro pups in a shelter now. closer to you than me.
> save them! sent to vic as
> well, maybe she got them out by now!  shelter put on
> petfinder after emailing
> so not tough to find.
>                  diane amm
> oh, hey you've got them by now so no worries!
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Okay now you are telling people to buy dogs let alone
SRO threw pet stores?????
God this is worse than I thought.


P>S My mall stores do NOT allow puppy sales
I helped close the puppy stores than did by standing
in picket lines at kings plaze mall back in the early
80's
Puppymills supply pet stores and many dogs died
And yes many had AKC pedigrees most of them DIED with
it on their graves!!

Since you can NOT seem to quote a email either with
text or reference I will just have to GUESS what you
are replying too!!

I have seen other emails you have left the previous
message on the bottom so it seems you remove it so the
others can NOT follow the conversation.





  Deany1961@... wrote:
> JD,
>    < show has nothing to do with anything.>>
> petstore give out a
> certificate with a gold sticker, no health
> guarentees, no show pup. good God,
> visit your local mall stores!
>                      diane amm
> i have an akc pedigree on my wheaten terrier with
> tale and a tail! her
> original owner purchased her through petland.
> traded the mgr. for roofing
> work.
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Mass producing SRO's to feed kids and not having any
homes for them in Russia but having to ship them in
truckloads to the  USA for rescue cheap or free is NOT
cost effective and it is STUPID!!

In addition this breed should NEVER be mass produced
for any reason .
Their temperament if not properly bred and or
socialized from a correct breeder could mean a USA kid
will be killed.

So to any SRO adoptees you have kids and want a SRo
suggest you DO not adopt from a truck loud of
refugee's bred only for the purpose of feeding
starving Russian kids- for a adoption price I suggest
you buy from a real legiT SRO  breeder who knows their
lines their dogs and are willing to match you with a
puppy from generations of tested SRO!!

This reasoning is clear insanity!!

Since the TOp breeders of SRO's can NOT be the top of
their game if they are BROKE

FACT: it takes MONEY to breed any breed that is why
Prof breeders do NOT make MONEY!!!!

and Jesus the show grooming supplies and shampoo for a
SRO is enough to break the bank for most average
russian people.

THus if they are broke SRO breeeders they are not
breeders they are farmers of SRO and who in hell would
want a farmed SRO living in their family?

T


--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> maybe you should tell the starving people in russia
> that selling their dogs
> to feed kids is not a good thing. get that pasport
> now!
>                           diane amm
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Diane I will no longer talk to u since it is clear you
are talking to yourself and having a good time of it.
And you are the only person understanding your emails
and to everyone writing me _I have no idea what she is
saying since it is all jibberish.

When you wish to have a adult convo and can learn
proper email protocals I will resume!

Jeannine



--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> not anna, screw anna, hoped to stop flow, then i
> found out others bigger than
> Anna bring in by the pound!
>                                  diane amm
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The dog is saved DONT YOU GET ITTTTTTTT.

My request is to make it clear to HUMANS who try to
follow you insanity of emails

Jeannine
P.S Diane S did no wrong!!!!!
Diane S did NOT try to PROVE it was NOt a ANna Dog
Diane S only cared about the dog
Only you cared more about Anna Frumina reputation and
friendship with its relationship to these rescues!!
So why in gods name would I attack a TRUE SRO rescue
person who did NO harm!!!


--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> does your request matter to the dog? nope!
>                                diane amm
>  maybe diane cared about the dog as i do. and she is
> blameless here, attack
> me. never her. but i can prove!
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Diane fine -I will tell you this you write like a
insane committed verifiable mad hatter
And I need help? You need to see a shrink!!!

I hate anyone who kills dogs you on the other hand
make packs with dog killers to save dogs of the breeds
you love and screw the rest!!

And to us that is insanity!!

Jeannine

--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> have you concidered seeing a shrink about the hate
> you seem to feel. the
> intollerance or others?
>                                       diane amm
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Like any one can understand this you dont need to
reply to each line you need to send back the email you
are replying TOO!!!!!!
Unless you just wish to confuse the hell out of
everyone to create a smoke screen around your
words of support for Anna Frumina---

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Deany1961@... wrote:
> you are wrong vic, never did !  like i said , i
> thought you knew me better!
>                                 diane amm
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Diane what in gods name is wrong with you??
Do you need some help? with understanding things?????

YOu attacked Vic on a public list when she PRIVAtly
told you to stay away from any dog she is helping
since you stated you are friends with ANNNNNNNA
Frumina

We do not sell out souls to the devil herself to save
200 SRO/ssss
Gods name if their is not enough homes for 200 SRO
then teh Russian breeders should NOT be breeding
them!!!!!


JD






--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> and vic i did contact you as soon as diane sent me
> the email on the dog. 4-7.
> yes, i still have the email.  contacted anna only
> after you accused her and
> then only generically.  but just in case in made an
> offer so i would know
> where all went and it pissed you off.  well as i
> said in another email be
> prepared for the food of SRO's a majot pet store has
> bid on 200 over next two
> years. all yours vic. my sources ( and not anna or
> even know her) could be
> wrong, even if never before.
>                                diane amm
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From shelter stating on 4/30 the SRO is being taken
care of.

On 5 NOT 4  May 7th Diane contacted Vic asking for the
LOCATIOn of the shelter to find out the tattoo on the
dog!



--- Dessin Animal Shelter <dessin@...> wrote:
> From: "Dessin Animal Shelter" <dessin@...>
> To: "FoxFire Farms Central Asians"
> <dogoflegends@...>
> Subject:  Central Asian Ovcharka
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:45:27 -0500
>
> Hi-
>    I just wanted to let you know that things are
> looking good for Whitie,
> the SRO.  Victoria Evans has been very instrumental
> in helping with this
> one.  So, keep your fingers crossed.
>
>
> Thanks for your help
> Sue
>
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This is like trying to talk to MO larry and CUrly at
the same time

1st you ask who told Diane S
I reply I did
Then you state Diane S told you
Then I tell you what dates I told Diane S
and asked her NOT to involve YOU!!!!!

How Can the shelter Volunteer who BTU is not the
person contact for this rescue she is a paid
employeee!!!

Tell you about a rescue that you
A. Had to ask Diane S about for the 1st time on Troika
2 weeks later
B You had to ask Vic for the shelter in just last week

You are clearly not understanding anything written or
that you write!

Jeannine

I am contacting the shelter again on Monday and
gettign a written statement

YOU WERE NEVER CONTACTED BY THE SHELTER


--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> back, foster volunteer caled me on cel phone. she is
> getting dog. you can not
> tell time or do not know when this began.
>                                   diane amm
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Jesus Christ if you were contacted for help and given
the location on 4/7

You would NOT of posted that email on Troika 3 weeks
later asking about the dogs location>>

You would of known the location!!

Thus you were NOT involved and the problems came when
I posted pictures of the dogs in my gallery and
rusdogs name was on them!

You Anna Frumian persona PR person set out to be her
savior due to your own personal connection with her
NOT mine

My email to DS says do not contact Diane IN the USA
Because I want no direct or indirect involement with
the person who sold these rescues threw you!!!

DO you get this?>???!!!!!

Jeannine





--- Deany1961@... wrote:
> J.D.
>       i was contacted 4/7/03 at email time 4:03:44
> eastern time about this
> dog. well before 4/30/ by DS. funny, asking me to
> help you.  wrote vic as i
> did not have you email info. you have the dog!
> congrats. place well! (into a
> forever and loving home).
>                                 diane amm
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