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Tans are easily one of the most inquisitive breeds. They are an
intelligent, active and tactile breed. Because of their natural
activity level, they require more cage space than the average rabbit.
Given the opportunity, they will play with all kinds of rabbit safe
toys. Toys are hours of entertainment, both for the Tan and also for
you watching the Tan play with the toys. Because Tans are a very
smart rabbit, you must have a cage that is secure (they will figure
out how to open the door if the latch isn't secure). Being a very
tactile rabbit, it is not uncommon to find them chewing on their cage
wire. Giving them blocks of wood will sometimes redirect their
attention from the wire. On average, they usually don't do much, if
any damage to their teeth.

Tans are one of five arched breeds recognized by the American Rabbit
Breeders Association. Because of it's very natural ability to present
itself on the show table, this breed is judged by being allowed to
move naturally on the show table, never posed. If you plan to show,
working with your Tans between shows is recommended. You want them to
know when turned out on the carpet on the judging table, it's time to
strut their stuff. If you have a Tan for a pet, letting them out to
run in the house on your carpet is excellent exercise (never leave
them unattended or they will get into everything).

Often you will hear Tans referenced as not being a good companion
rabbit - it's a bad rap for an incredible breed. True statement,
there are Tans out there that don't make good pets.  A lot of that
has to do with their temperament.  Temperament is affected by two
major areas:  first, the selection practices of the breeder they come
from and secondly, the way they were raised.  Make sure you do your
homework before bringing one home - ask around about the Tans from a
particular breeding program.  The right Tan will make an exceptional
pet. The right Tan will also burn up the show tables AND be gentle
off the table.

This breed is not the sit in your lap while you watch TV kind of
breed.  This is an interactive breed that wants to experience the
world first hand.  Personally speaking, they make all the other
breeds simply boring.

#30

From: "simmonskathiej@..." <simmonskathiej@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:28 pm
Subject: RE: CA to convention...

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I am hoping to drive from California again with my trailer full of rabbits. I
bought a larger vehicle as my Saturn Vue burned up it's trany last year. With
gas prices so high I assume that I will have to raise the price. Last year it
was roughly $25/rabbit each way. I'll be looking for someone or two to go with
as well as transports. All breeds accepted including cavys.

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From: pac_soup [mailto: pac_soup@...]
To: TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:01:34 -0000
Subject: [TANrabbits] Speaking of convention...

             Has anyone looked into flying rabbits to convention this fall yet?
Rumor has it Delta is raising their accompanied baggage fees again.
Frontier Airlines is limiting the number of rabbits flown as
accompanied baggage to two per kennel.  Seems the options for
transporting rabbits to convention are becoming more and more limited
as time goes by so I am hoping someone has found a reasonable
alternative.

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#29

From: "simmonskathiej@..."<simmonskathiej@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: Tan Litter need some help

simmonkj

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I haven't read all the other mail but it does sound like a milk problem. I don't
think tans are the best mothers but they usually feed their babies if they have
milk. The velveteens just ignor them or worse. Having another doe is my stategy
and I have save many kits this way.  Get a couple of black tan does that like to
have babies and you will have someone to turn to if this happens again.

  --- On Thu 03/20, l_sohns < l_sohns@... > wrote:
From: l_sohns [mailto: l_sohns@...]
To: TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:11:46 -0000
Subject: [TANrabbits] Re: Tan Litter need some help


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             <p>Unfortunately I've lost the entire litter.  I was really looking
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forward to having these babies, so I feel like I did something wrong. <br>
She must not have fed them, because they were being kept warm. This <br>
afternoon one by one they just started to die, so I'm not sure what <br>
happened to them.  Any ideas on what could have gone wrong?  I'm going <br>
to rebreed her tonight and see if she is better at keeping the 2nd <br>
litter.  Normally if one of my French Lops lose an entire litter I <br>
breed them again right away, so I'm assuming I can do that with the <br>
Tan.  If anyone in Minnesota, Iowa or Wisconsin has a chocolate tan <br>
brood doe(or 2) for sale, I'd be interested in purchasing them.  I <br>
currently have the one chocolate doe and a lilac buck. It's always <br>
nice to have a couple doe's with litters at the same time so I can <br>
foster babies if necessary.  Fostering a tan to a French Lop doe may <br>
not work, the other kits are just to big for the tan kit to compete <br>
with. Thanks for all the advice and I'll start using the calf manna.  <br>
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#28

From: "Glenn Claar" <gsclaar@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:08 am
Subject: RE: Re: Tan Litter need some help

gsclaar

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Hello,
We are the Claar's.  We have been working with Bonnie Wagoner for about 2
1/2 years now.  She has grown to be a very close friend.  How soon do you
need to have the does?  We live in northern Indiana. close to South Bend.
We are making arrangements to ship some rabbits to Arizona and could
possibly meet you part way.  If you would like we can call you or you can
call us.  We have unlimited long distance.    Our phone # is 574-538-2330.
Thanks
Glenn and Stephanie Claar


>From: "l_sohns" <l_sohns@...>
>Reply-To: TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com
>To: TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [TANrabbits] Re: Tan Litter need some help
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:11:46 -0000
>
>Unfortunately I've lost the entire litter.  I was really looking
>forward to having these babies, so I feel like I did something wrong.
>She must not have fed them, because they were being kept warm. This
>afternoon one by one they just started to die, so I'm not sure what
>happened to them.  Any ideas on what could have gone wrong?  I'm going
>to rebreed her tonight and see if she is better at keeping the 2nd
>litter.  Normally if one of my French Lops lose an entire litter I
>breed them again right away, so I'm assuming I can do that with the
>Tan.  If anyone in Minnesota, Iowa or Wisconsin has a chocolate tan
>brood doe(or 2) for sale, I'd be interested in purchasing them.  I
>currently have the one chocolate doe and a lilac buck. It's always
>nice to have a couple doe's with litters at the same time so I can
>foster babies if necessary.  Fostering a tan to a French Lop doe may
>not work, the other kits are just to big for the tan kit to compete
>with. Thanks for all the advice and I'll start using the calf manna.
>
>Laural
>

#27

From: "l_sohns" <l_sohns@...>
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Tan Litter need some help

l_sohns

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Unfortunately I've lost the entire litter.  I was really looking
forward to having these babies, so I feel like I did something wrong.
She must not have fed them, because they were being kept warm. This
afternoon one by one they just started to die, so I'm not sure what
happened to them.  Any ideas on what could have gone wrong?  I'm going
to rebreed her tonight and see if she is better at keeping the 2nd
litter.  Normally if one of my French Lops lose an entire litter I
breed them again right away, so I'm assuming I can do that with the
Tan.  If anyone in Minnesota, Iowa or Wisconsin has a chocolate tan
brood doe(or 2) for sale, I'd be interested in purchasing them.  I
currently have the one chocolate doe and a lilac buck. It's always
nice to have a couple doe's with litters at the same time so I can
foster babies if necessary.  Fostering a tan to a French Lop doe may
not work, the other kits are just to big for the tan kit to compete
with. Thanks for all the advice and I'll start using the calf manna.

Laural

#26

From: "pac_soup" <pac_soup@...>
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: Tan Litter need some help

pac_soup

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Average Tan litter size is 4 - 5.  Largest I know about is nine.

#25

From: "tanrabbits" <tanrabbits@...>
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Tan Litter need some help

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Something that will help restimulate your doe's appetite is some calf
manna (aka rabbit candy).  It's also known as milk starter (similar
product for a fraction of the price).  It is a pinkish pellet that
smells sort of like licorice.  Most rabbits will eagerly eat calf manna
even when they are off feed.  Mind you, it's high in protein and
calories so use sparingly.  You'll find it helps milk production on
nursing does.  I also give calf manna sparingly to the rest of my herd
as a treat - side benefit is a beautiful gloss to their coats and
because they think it's a treat, when it's time to worm they eagerly
snarf it down even with wormer on it.

#24

From: Laural Sohns <l_sohns@...>
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Tan Litter need some help

l_sohns

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Thank you for the advice. I bet she did have problems kindling, she still isn't eating normal. She is drinking water and eating hay, but not interested in her pellets.

She is a very mild mannered doe and has not been agressive when we check her kits, but

did notice this morning she growled a little when I petted her. That's the Mom instinct kicking in.

Do tans normally have smaller litters, I thought a litter of 6 was good sized for as small a rabbit as she is. I raise French Lops, so I'm rather new to the smaller breeds. I think the Tan's are a beautiful rabbit and hopefully the remaining babies will survive. She is a chocolate tan bred to a lilac buck.

I took the nest box out of the cage and I'll return it tonight and then early tomorrow morning. I'm just not sure when she is feeding them but they have been fed.

Thanks again for the advice.

--- On Thu, 3/20/08, tanrabbits <tanrabbits@...> wrote:

From: tanrabbits <tanrabbits@...>
Subject: [TANrabbits] Re: Tan Litter need some help
To: TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 20, 2008, 11:04 AM

Contrary to what you were told, usually Tan does are superb mothers.
Every once in a while I have a doe that does the same thing though,
usually on their first litter. After that, they usually figure it all
out and it's smooth sailing. On first litters, it's not unusual for
the does to have some "mis-queue's" especially if it's a young doe.
Often you will find when the babies are scattered like that and the doe
didn't pull much hair, she was having some problems kindling.

Ok, on to the solution for this litter... what I would do is remove the
nest box from the cage and keep it in a safe spot (away from other
household pets). I personally keep mine in the bathroom in the tub for
several reasons. Biggest reason is they are out of normal traffic so
they are left undisturbed and I can close the door to insure they are
out of harms way (we have house cats who are excellent mousers and kits
resemble mice at this age). The other reason is if the babies happen
to jump out of the next box when they are a little older, I know
exactly where to find them (the tub) instead of having to go searching
for them. And lastly, in the summer my bathroom is the coolest place
in the house. FYI, in the dead of winter I bring in all my litters
until they have a good coat of fur. Takes a bit more effort on my part
but I've never lost a litter in the cold of the winter or blazing heat
of the summer.

Keep in mind, does usually only nurse once a day so you can return the
nest box whenever it is you usually feed your rabbits. When she's done
nursing and cleaning the babies, remove the nest box again. Repeat
daily for about a week. Usually by then the doe won't sit with the
babies so you can try leaving the nest box in her cage.

If you have a good relationship with your does, most don't mind having
their babies checked up on from time to time although keep in mind,
they are hard wired to protect their litters so if the doe seems to be
a bit aggressive towards you when they are young, she's just doing her
job.

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#23

From: Kathy Rariden <wildharegal@...>
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: Tan Litter need some help

wildharegal

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I don't think Tans are any harder to raise than most other breeds. We've had them for more than 8 years, & have only had 1 doe that was difficult. Actually, she was evil! We have also had many that were excellent moms.

We had 1 years ago, that was the foster mom of the year. One of her litters had 4 Tans of her own, 2 Harlequins, & a Mini Rex. Quite an interesting group! Over the years, she fostered close to 2 dozen off-breed kits.

We don't have any more trouble getting them bred, either. I think the weather plays a bigger part in breeding trouble than the actual breed.

JMO

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#22

From: "tanrabbits" <tanrabbits@...>
Date: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: Tan Litter need some help

tanrabbits

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Contrary to what you were told, usually Tan does are superb mothers.
Every once in a while I have a doe that does the same thing though,
usually on their first litter.  After that, they usually figure it all
out and it's smooth sailing.  On first litters, it's not unusual for
the does to have some "mis-queue's" especially if it's a young doe.
Often you will find when the babies are scattered like that and the doe
didn't pull much hair, she was having some problems kindling.

Ok, on to the solution for this litter... what I would do is remove the
nest box from the cage and keep it in a safe spot (away from other
household pets). I personally keep mine in the bathroom in the tub for
several reasons.  Biggest reason is they are out of normal traffic so
they are left undisturbed and I can close the door to insure they are
out of harms way (we have house cats who are excellent mousers and kits
resemble mice at this age).  The other reason is if the babies happen
to jump out of the next box when they are a little older, I know
exactly where to find them (the tub) instead of having to go searching
for them.  And lastly, in the summer my bathroom is the coolest place
in the house.  FYI, in the dead of winter I bring in all my litters
until they have a good coat of fur.  Takes a bit more effort on my part
but I've never lost a litter in the cold of the winter or blazing heat
of the summer.

Keep in mind, does usually only nurse once a day so you can return the
nest box whenever it is you usually feed your rabbits.  When she's done
nursing and cleaning the babies, remove the nest box again.  Repeat
daily for about a week.  Usually by then the doe won't sit with the
babies so you can try leaving the nest box in her cage.

If you have a good relationship with your does, most don't mind having
their babies checked up on from time to time although keep in mind,
they are hard wired to protect their litters so if the doe seems to be
a bit aggressive towards you when they are young, she's just doing her
job.

Bonny Wagoner
Urban Rabbits

#21

From: "l_sohns" <l_sohns@...>
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:13 pm
Subject: Tan Litter need some help

l_sohns

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My tan doe had 6 babies yesterday, this is her first litter.  She had
a great time gathering hay, but didn't pull much fur.  She did scatter
her litter all over the cage and I picked them up, cleaned them, added
nesting material and placed all the babies in one spot. I'm in
Minnesota and it's still cold here so Mom and babies are in the
basement.  This morning 2 were dead and she keeps sitting on them.
It's not as if she's feeding them she just sits on them. Normally they
leave then nest box and only go in to feed the babies.  I'm trying to
leave her alone as much as possible because I don't want her getting
nervous, but I do check them twice a day.  Someone told me tans are
difficult to raise, is this true or am I bothering her to much?  I
normally check food and water twice a day, so she is used to that.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks

#20

From: "pac_soup" <pac_soup@...>
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:01 am
Subject: Speaking of convention...

pac_soup

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Has anyone looked into flying rabbits to convention this fall yet?
Rumor has it Delta is raising their accompanied baggage fees again.
Frontier Airlines is limiting the number of rabbits flown as
accompanied baggage to two per kennel.  Seems the options for
transporting rabbits to convention are becoming more and more limited
as time goes by so I am hoping someone has found a reasonable
alternative.

#19

From: "simmonskathiej@..." <simmonskathiej@...>
Date: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:27 am
Subject: Re: Welcome, welcome!!

simmonkj

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I transported a tan nethie to convention and kept doing a double-take whenever I
looked at it. I couldn't imagine why I had entered such a weird looking tan in
the show.

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From: pac_soup [mailto: pac_soup@...]
To: TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:37:49 -0000
Subject: [TANrabbits] Re: Welcome, welcome!!

             I forgot to mention in my previous post, I primarily work with Black
Tans along with some Blues and Lilacs.

I've heard of the Black and Tan Belgium Hares in England.  It's a
beautiful rabbit but then pretty much anything Black and Tan catches my
eye.  I'm looking forward to the day they can be shown here.

Speaking of Black and Tans, there's a breeder down south working on a
Tan Mini Rex - I believe so far he's worked out Blacks and Blues and is
preparing to begin the Black presentation cycle at this convention.

Bonny Wagoner

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#17

From: Joe C <nobadhareday@...>
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome, welcome!!

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Hey everyone.

I just joined your group, and I might be the only one on here that doesn't actually have tans. I love the breed!...... I did have them for many years as a kid. I currently raise Black and tan hares. (not yet recognized) Both parents were brought over from the UK. They are amazing animals. I currently have a litter of 10.

A little history about myself:

My very first rabbit was a Choc. tan buck who became a GC after his third show under a well respected judge in the old days named Bob Herschbach. That rabbit was my very first 4-H project.

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#16

From: "tanrabbits" <tanrabbits@...>
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

tanrabbits

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Hi Glenna -

For those of you folks who don't know who I am, I'm Bonny Wagoner in
northwest Oregon.  I was talking to a Tan breeder in California who
works for an oil company a couple days ago.  She told me the primary
reason our gas prices are rising and will continue to rise is the
value of our dollar is dropping.  Oil costs aren't actually rising
much but on the world market, it takes more of our dollars (thanks to
our current economy) to buy the oil.  She fully expects if the
economy doesn't pick up soon, we will be paying $4 a gallon by the
end of the year.  Dreadful prediction but that's what we are all
looking at unfortunately.

With entry costs rising at the same time (not complaining - I
understand the cause and effect thing happening) and feed prices
jumping in tandem, it makes us think twice about how far we can/will
go to show.  I'm pretty much off the beaten track so trying to
carpool with other breeders isn't an option.  In Oregon I can still
find gas at $3.35 a gallon in my area.  Just over the river from
here, I found it to be 40 cents more a gallon this past weekend
already.  That 40 cents difference is quite the eye opener when you
see the total of what you just put in the tank.  Recently I took up
riding a motorcycle again... it might very well become my primary
mode of transportation at this rate.  It's not the kind of bike I can
attach a trailer to... yes, I did ponder for a moment the option for
shows but I'd have to have a different style of bike to do something
like that.  In the meantime, until I see how things pan out I've
reduced my breeding plans to reflect a much smaller show schedule and
driving radius.

#15

From: "hend_rex" <hend_rex@...>
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

hend_rex

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Hi, I'm Glenna and I live in North Idaho.  I just joined the group a
few days ago.  I raise mostly black and chocolate tans but I will
keep and show any color that pops up in my litters so long as they
are of quality.  I had a super nice lilac buck last year.

Gas prices have made a huge impact on my ability to go to shows.  In
fact its making it more and more difficult just to keep raising the
rabbits at all.  Due to rising fuel costs I have seen a huge increase
in feed costs.  The feed I order from work (and pay cost for) was
$10.82 a bag last month.  It is now $14.70 COST! for the same bag of
feed.  I am faced with cutting my herd down to less than half of what
I used to raise and I raise two breeds. I'm switching feed this week
to something more affordable.  I just hate having to compromise my
feed quality to keep this hobby going. I usually don't use show
suppliments though so it looks like I may have to start.

The travel costs for judges has gone up as well and we are seeing a
big increas in entry fees also.  I normaly show 5 - 8 rabbits per
show between the tans and the rex.  This time I could only afford to
take 2 rabbits and I only went because a group of us were sharing a
ride.

I dread to think what's to come as fuel prices continue to rise.
It's currently $3.40 a gallon and rising in my town.

Glenna

--- In TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com, "marrabbits" <marrabbits@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com, "Franco" <francorios2000@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Win,
> >
> > We used to go to rabbit shows in a Camry! 2 adults, 3 youth, and
8-
> 10
> > rabbits in carriers setting on the boys laps!
> >
> > Show gear and lunch in the trunk.
> >
> > Have a good day!
> > Franco Rios
> > Sacramento, CA
> >
> > --- In TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com, "Win Rogers" <rogerso@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, it does affect our ability to travel.  I only have a
> Corolla, but
> > > still...
> > >
> >I hear you both. I have a small truck and a diesel van but with
gas
> at $3.60/ gal and diesel almost $4.00 it's gonna hurt.All the shows
> are at least two hours away for me so yes it affects me in a big
way.
> Bonnie
>

#14

From: "pac_soup" <pac_soup@...>
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:44 pm
Subject: Welcome, welcome!!

pac_soup

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Welcome everyone who has joined this group of Tan rabbit enthusiasts.
Please feel free to invite anyone else you know of working with Tans to
join us also. I've been a bit busy around here lately and haven't been
able to individually greet you all as you joined the group.  Once we
are a little more established, I have a couple of projects for this
wonderful breed I am collaborating on and I would like your
thoughts/assistance as we work on them.

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#13

From: "l_sohns" <l_sohns@...>
Date: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:48 pm
Subject: First Litter of Tans

l_sohns

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Hi,

  I'm in Minnesota and unfortunately there are not many tan breeders in
this area. I have a chocolate doe and a lilac buck that I won at
Nationals last year. The doe is going to have her first litter today
or tomorrow and I'm hopeful that she does well as a Mom. She's been
gathering hay and building a nest so I think she will be just fine.
Nice to see a tan group.

#12

From: "simmonkj" <simmonskathiej@...>
Date: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:06 pm
Subject: NEW MEMBER

simmonkj

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I have been raising tans for 4 or 5 years in Northern California and
finally have all 4 colors.  I am expecting a few litters next week and
look forward to having some some young seniors to take to Kentucky.
I'll be breeding some more to have juniors that are close to 6 months
then. I'm looking forward to showing in Stockton at the end of the
month.  The show is sanctioned so there may be some tans besides me.
I'm glad to see a Yahoo group just for tanners.

#11

From: "marrabbits" <marrabbits@...>
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2008 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

marrabbits

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--- In TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com, "Franco" <francorios2000@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Win,
>
> We used to go to rabbit shows in a Camry! 2 adults, 3 youth, and 8-
10
> rabbits in carriers setting on the boys laps!
>
> Show gear and lunch in the trunk.
>
> Have a good day!
> Franco Rios
> Sacramento, CA
>
> --- In TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com, "Win Rogers" <rogerso@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it does affect our ability to travel.  I only have a
Corolla, but
> > still...
> >
>I hear you both. I have a small truck and a diesel van but with gas
at $3.60/ gal and diesel almost $4.00 it's gonna hurt.All the shows
are at least two hours away for me so yes it affects me in a big way.
Bonnie

#10

From: "Photo Credit: Martin Bauer (aus Deutschland)" <sparcplug@...>
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2008 6:06 am
Subject: Sparcplug(y) - new member saying Hi!

sparcplugy

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Great idea for a group.
I'm a pet owner, glad to have taken in a few tans to live with me.
They are great fun.  I posted a few pic's of one I called Sissilitta
(RIP), in a new album called "Pets".  Her real name is "Wagoner's Sense
of Humor", and you will be able to tell from the pic's what a sweet,
funny little bunny she was.

From: "marrabbits" <marrabbits@...>
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:22 am
Subject: Tans for sale

marrabbits

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Hey Everyone,
I have some Chocolate Seniors for sale in the San Diego/Temecula area.
I give 4H and FFA as well as new breeder discounts. If you are
interested please contact me privately at marrabbits@...

From: "Franco" <francorios2000@...>
Date: Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:08 am
Subject: Re: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

francorios2000

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Hi Win,

We used to go to rabbit shows in a Camry! 2 adults, 3 youth, and 8-10
rabbits in carriers setting on the boys laps!

Show gear and lunch in the trunk.

Have a good day!
Franco Rios
Sacramento, CA

--- In TANrabbits@yahoogroups.com, "Win Rogers" <rogerso@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, it does affect our ability to travel.  I only have a Corolla, but
> still...
>

From: "tanrabbits" <tanrabbits@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:47 pm
Subject: Applying the Standard to your Tan

tanrabbits

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Bonny Wagoner's Basic Tan Diagram

The Standard is what is used to measure whether or not our Tans meet the current breed criteria. It is especially hard for beginners in the breed to apply the verbiage in the Standard as it is currently written to the Tan rabbit in front of them. Several years ago I put together a handy reference chart to help identify the areas referred to in the Standard. Please refer to your Standard for the ARBA definition of those areas and the points that are assessed to each area. Get your Tans out in front of you and let them run just like they would at the shows so you are looking at them just like the judges are.

Bonny Wagoner
Urban Rabbits

From: "Win Rogers" <rogerso@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:15 pm
Subject: Tan buck with pedigree Stockton, California

o2rabbitry

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One of my 4-H kids could not keep her rabbit anymore.  A black Tan
buck, with pedigree.  I don't know Tans, a friend knowledgeable about
Tans said she didn't consider him competitive.  He *is* a friendly and
handle-able boy.  I have been boarding him for four weeks and haven't
seen any hint of any malady.  I can deliver him to Grass Valley show
March 16, 2008.  Or email me if interested in seeing him.

Win Rogers

From: "Win Rogers" <rogerso@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

o2rabbitry

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Yes, it does affect our ability to travel.  I only have a Corolla, but
still...

From: "tanrabbits" <tanrabbits@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

tanrabbits

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Our family has reduced our show radius quite a bit as a result of the
rising gas prices.  We used to travel to neighboring states and Canada
for shows.  Now we pretty much stick to a three hour or less commute
radius.  The downside of reducing our show radius is it has about cut
our show schedule in half but it's becoming cost prohibitive to do the
longer distance shows when we take into account how much it costs just
to get there on top of the rising cost of entries.  Out of necessity,
we are very selective about which long distance shows we go to - we can
now count them on one hand.

We are located in the Northwest.

From: "pac_soup" <pac_soup@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 4:30 pm
Subject: Fuel prices - how does it affect your show schedule?

pac_soup

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With fuel prices rising at an alarming rate, is it having an impact on
how many upcoming shows you plan to attend in your area?  When you
reply, please note your geographic area (NW, NE, SW, SE or Foreign).

Thank you.

From: "Franco" <franco.rios-kit@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:34 pm
Subject: Rabbitgeek checks in

francorios2000

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Hi there!

Wish your next group much success!

Have a good day!
Franco Rios
http://www.rabbitgeek.com

From: "pac_soup" <pac_soup@...>
Date: Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:29 pm
Subject: Welcome

pac_soup

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Welcome to a brand new group to discuss the wonderful breed of Tan
rabbits.  This group is not affiliated with any clubs or other groups
so there is no requirements to participate. Everyone is welcome to join
in regardless if you just own a Tan as a pet/companion or if you show
competitively. Please share your stories and experiences working with
this delightful breed.  Also, if you have some photo's, please consider
sharing them here so folks not as familiar with the breed can see this
beautiful rabbit.

Thank you for stopping by and I hope you enjoy this forum as folks jump
in to share their Tan experiences.