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----- Original Message -----

From: Just4Paws

To: TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TheSumnerFoundation] new to the group

Thanks for your reply Valerie.... It is so very sad. I just don't know what more to say.... I am so sorry for your pain and your losses.

 

Love, light and blessings,

Dana, Jazz and Cameo

I'm so sorry to hear about your pups..  Have you checked out the
blacksalveandpetswithcancer in yahoogroups?  Many of the members are
owners of rats, but there are other people who treated their cats and
dogs with black salve on that group list.  Their files have instructions
of what herbs, how to mix and use.  I had considered using this with
Charlie Brown, but he had such advanced hemanogiosarcoma that I didn't
think it was possible.

That might be an option for you.

Laura B., Bear, Sweet Pea & Little Pea
CO
http://home.att.net/~deaf.way/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html
(updated 11/15/04)


just4paws2 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Dana and I am owned by two amazing Goldens, Jazz and
> Cameo. Jazz will be 12 May 31 and Cameo will be 11 June 11. I have
> had the most devastating week. We found out that Cameo has an oral
> malignant melanoma and that my boy, Jazz, has a nasal tumor that has
> spread throughout his nasal cavity and behind his eye. I realize
> that this group is geared towards Hemangiosarcoma, in talking with
> Cameo's breeder since the diagnosis of the oral melanoma I
> discovered that Hemangio runs in their lines. Is there anyway to
> protect them against this? What signs, symptoms should I be watching
> for? Are there any regular diagnostic tests that I can run regularly
> to check for this sort of thing?
>
> Again, I realize that the group is geared towards Hemangio but if
> any one out there has had any experience or input at all that they
> can share with one of the other cancers I mentioned, I would greatly
> appreciate it..... As you can imagine, I am simply beside myself.
>
> Thanks and warm regards,
> Dana, Jazz and Cameo

----- Original Message -----

From: just4paws2

To: TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:31 PM

Subject: [TheSumnerFoundation] new to the group

Hi,

My name is Dana and I am owned by two amazing Goldens, Jazz and
Cameo. Jazz will be 12 May 31 and Cameo will be 11 June 11. I have
had the most devastating week. We found out that Cameo has an oral
malignant melanoma and that my boy, Jazz, has a nasal tumor that has
spread throughout his nasal cavity and behind his eye. I realize
that this group is geared towards Hemangiosarcoma, in talking with
Cameo's breeder since the diagnosis of the oral melanoma I
discovered that Hemangio runs in their lines. Is there anyway to
protect them against this? What signs, symptoms should I be watching
for? Are there any regular diagnostic tests that I can run regularly
to check for this sort of thing? 

Again, I realize that the group is geared towards Hemangio but if
any one out there has had any experience or input at all that they
can share with one of the other cancers I mentioned, I would greatly
appreciate it..... As you can imagine, I am simply beside myself.

Thanks and warm regards,
Dana, Jazz and Cameo

Hi,

My name is Dana and I am owned by two amazing Goldens, Jazz and
Cameo. Jazz will be 12 May 31 and Cameo will be 11 June 11. I have
had the most devastating week. We found out that Cameo has an oral
malignant melanoma and that my boy, Jazz, has a nasal tumor that has
spread throughout his nasal cavity and behind his eye. I realize
that this group is geared towards Hemangiosarcoma, in talking with
Cameo's breeder since the diagnosis of the oral melanoma I
discovered that Hemangio runs in their lines. Is there anyway to
protect them against this? What signs, symptoms should I be watching
for? Are there any regular diagnostic tests that I can run regularly
to check for this sort of thing?

Again, I realize that the group is geared towards Hemangio but if
any one out there has had any experience or input at all that they
can share with one of the other cancers I mentioned, I would greatly
appreciate it..... As you can imagine, I am simply beside myself.

Thanks and warm regards,
Dana, Jazz and Cameo

----- Original Message -----

From: valerieconsoli

To: TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:41 PM

Subject: [TheSumnerFoundation] Popping in to say hello

How is everyone doing?  Are you having good days or bad days?  Please
feel free to share with us here.  I am finding days a little better
though I am still crying several times a week.  Yesterday was ten
weeks since losing Sumner.  Sometimes I want to much to talk to my
husband about Sumner and share memories or thoughts but when I bring
Sumner up, my husband just cries and I feel so bad for having said
anything.  I always just hope that we can talk about him and share
our feelings.  But it's been so hard.

How is everyone doing?  Are you having good days or bad days?  Please
feel free to share with us here.  I am finding days a little better
though I am still crying several times a week.  Yesterday was ten
weeks since losing Sumner.  Sometimes I want to much to talk to my
husband about Sumner and share memories or thoughts but when I bring
Sumner up, my husband just cries and I feel so bad for having said
anything.  I always just hope that we can talk about him and share
our feelings.  But it's been so hard.

Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing.  If anyone
wants to talk I am here.

Valerie
ListMom

Have you thought of putting Kingsley onto a raw food based diet?  Very
very few animals get cancer on this type of diet (hence my theory of
what we're feeding the dogs is killing them in the long run).  Out of
curiosity, what were George, Vixen and Kingsley fed with?

I've tried everything under the sun for Bear and my past dogs (they had
other problems).  Although Bear is now on Eagle Pack dog food with
enzymes, I know it's not the "best" diet for him.

How has Kinglsey coped with the passing of George and Vixen?

Laura B., Bear & Sweet Pea
CO
http://home.att.net/~deaf.way/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html



Suzanne Ferrio wrote:
> Valerie,
>
> Thank you so much for your kind words.  Yes, this has been a devasting
> time for both my husband and me.
>
> We still have our 4 year old springer Kingsley.  For his sake (and in
> memory of George and Vixen), I want to do everything I can to avoid this
> happening again.  At this point, though, it looks like little can be done.
>
> Hopefully, through your website and this list, many of us can come
> together and maybe bring more awareness to this problem.  For my part, I
> am going to be writing a letter to the English Springer Health
> Foundation.  They have not done a comprehensive health survey in a
> number of years.  Hopefully, I can convince them that this is something
> that needs to be done on a periodic basis.  How else can we find out
> if hemangiosarcoma or some other disease is on the rise in our
> springers?  My friend Sherry who lost her springer in January is joining
> me in writing this letter.  Once we get it submitted, I'll keep you
> posted on any progress we may make with the health foundation.
>
> I have posted a photo of George and Vixen taken about 5 years ago in the
> photo section.  We used it for our Christmas card that year.
>
> Thanks again for your kind words.  I know how difficult it is for all of
> us, but hopefully we can make a difference.
>
> Suzanne
>
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That's hard when you have to go through that. This is definitely a
cancer I would not wish upon on any animal.  Bear has this, but he's
still with me at the moment (and very incensed that I brought home an
adopted cat yesterday *smile*).  We'll have a little talk via an animal
communicator on Monday.

I hope with the surge of cancers in pets will convince the
researchers/scientists/vets to seriously look at nutrition.  I may be
wrong, but I feel it's how we feed (processed dog kibble) animals over
long periods of time that also creates new and deadly kinds of cancer.

Laura B., Bear & Sweet Pea
CO
http://home.att.net/~deaf.way/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html


Suzanne Ferrio wrote:
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm so glad I found this website.
>
> I lost two of my springers to this terrible disease:  George on July
> 23 and Vixen on September 30.  It was a terrible shock to say the
> least.
>
> George would have been 12 in December.  He had no obvious symptoms,
> although he had seemed to be slowing down a little.  My vets and I
> (I have 2 vets - one traditional and one holistic) never saw
> anything of concern.  His bloodwork last September had been great.
>
> The morning of July 23 he ate his breakfast as usual.  About an hour
> later he started coughing blood.  The xrays taken at the vets showed
> blood in his lungs, so we initially thought we were treating for
> some type of blood clotting disorder.  He was given fluids, oxygen
> and blood transfusions.  He just kept going downhill.  Later when he
> started bleeding in other organs his stomach doubled in size.  This
> was when the tumor on his spleen was discovered.  It was hidden in
> the first xray, but the swelling of his stomach evidently made it
> move and it was now very obvious.
>
> As he continued downhill, the vet at the emergency room felt he
> wouldn't make it through the night.  He was in too critical
> condition for any type of surgery.  I couldn't bear the thought of
> him dying in the oxygen chamber, alone.  So we made the decision
> that was best for him.  He quietly left with my husband and I
> holding him and talking to him.
>
> Vixen, who would have been 11 in December, left us the morning of
> September 30.  She had shown absolutely no signs of anything -
> believe me, after what had happened to George, I would have probably
> rushed her to the vet if her nose twitched funny.
>
> She woke us up that morning with her usual morning greeting -
> barking and jumping.  I let her outside and the minute she walked
> back in I knew something was terribly wrong.  I looked at her gums
> and they were totally white.  I rushed her to the emergency vet.  By
> the time we arrived her breathing was very labored and her stomach
> was distended.  The vet's initial diagnosis was that she had a tumor
> that had ruptured and she was bleeding internally.  My husband
> arrived about 20 minutes later - the vet wasn't even sure she would
> last that long.  But she did - I know she needed to say goodbye to
> her daddy.  Vixen was gone in just a little over an hour from
> onset.  Autopsy showed a golf ball size tumor on her spleen that was
> split open.  She also had two pea size tumors on her spleen and two
> pea size tumors on her liver.
>
> Believe me, I've been searching the web for answers.  This is
> something I had never encountered before.  George and Vixen were not
> related, so the genetic factor is ruled out.  Environmentally, my
> husband and I have maintained an organic yard for years, I've used a
> lot of holistic methods with my dogs.  They received minimal
> vaccinations.  My water is filtered.  I have since found out about
> two other springers in my area - one who died in January and one who
> has just been diagnosed.  I know that this disease has in the past
> been more common in larger breed dogs, and notably in Goldens and
> German Shepherds.  Hopefully, this is not the start of a trend among
> Springers.
>
> Sorry this was so long.
>
> Suzanne Ferrio
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi!

I'm so glad I found this website.

I lost two of my springers to this terrible disease:  George on July
23 and Vixen on September 30.  It was a terrible shock to say the
least.

George would have been 12 in December.  He had no obvious symptoms,
although he had seemed to be slowing down a little.  My vets and I
(I have 2 vets - one traditional and one holistic) never saw
anything of concern.  His bloodwork last September had been great.

The morning of July 23 he ate his breakfast as usual.  About an hour
later he started coughing blood.  The xrays taken at the vets showed
blood in his lungs, so we initially thought we were treating for
some type of blood clotting disorder.  He was given fluids, oxygen
and blood transfusions.  He just kept going downhill.  Later when he
started bleeding in other organs his stomach doubled in size.  This
was when the tumor on his spleen was discovered.  It was hidden in
the first xray, but the swelling of his stomach evidently made it
move and it was now very obvious.

As he continued downhill, the vet at the emergency room felt he
wouldn't make it through the night.  He was in too critical
condition for any type of surgery.  I couldn't bear the thought of
him dying in the oxygen chamber, alone.  So we made the decision
that was best for him.  He quietly left with my husband and I
holding him and talking to him.

Vixen, who would have been 11 in December, left us the morning of
September 30.  She had shown absolutely no signs of anything -
believe me, after what had happened to George, I would have probably
rushed her to the vet if her nose twitched funny.

She woke us up that morning with her usual morning greeting -
barking and jumping.  I let her outside and the minute she walked
back in I knew something was terribly wrong.  I looked at her gums
and they were totally white.  I rushed her to the emergency vet.  By
the time we arrived her breathing was very labored and her stomach
was distended.  The vet's initial diagnosis was that she had a tumor
that had ruptured and she was bleeding internally.  My husband
arrived about 20 minutes later - the vet wasn't even sure she would
last that long.  But she did - I know she needed to say goodbye to
her daddy.  Vixen was gone in just a little over an hour from
onset.  Autopsy showed a golf ball size tumor on her spleen that was
split open.  She also had two pea size tumors on her spleen and two
pea size tumors on her liver.

Believe me, I've been searching the web for answers.  This is
something I had never encountered before.  George and Vixen were not
related, so the genetic factor is ruled out.  Environmentally, my
husband and I have maintained an organic yard for years, I've used a
lot of holistic methods with my dogs.  They received minimal
vaccinations.  My water is filtered.  I have since found out about
two other springers in my area - one who died in January and one who
has just been diagnosed.  I know that this disease has in the past
been more common in larger breed dogs, and notably in Goldens and
German Shepherds.  Hopefully, this is not the start of a trend among
Springers.

Sorry this was so long.

Suzanne Ferrio

I'm so very sorry to read of your dog suffering from this terrible
cancer!  I've just gone through it myself with a not quite 6 year
old Newfoundland dog, the love of my life!
My heart and thoughts are with you....and if there is anything I can
do, I'm here...to support!
Kathy Ebony....and my Bear who is in heaven now!

--- In TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com, "deaf.way"
<deaf.way@w...> wrote:
>
> Hi, a little introduction of myself and the dogs.  :)  Bear is a
14 year
> old Chinese Shar Pei, also a certified hearing ear dog.  Sweet Pea
is a
> 8 months old adopted Great Dane puppy.  She's under training to
become a
> service dog.
>
> My first exposure to hemangiosarcoma was with Charlie Brown, the
rescued
> adopted Shar Pei before Sweet Pea. CB was approximately between
the age
> of 4 to 8 yrs old - no one really knew his age and teeth/health
> examination was never successful because he had the strength of
> PCP-users (Superman style)to battle 5 people at once to prevent
being
> poked by a needle or examined by a vet.... Vet recommended that CB
be
> put to sleep upon finding out that he had hemangiosarcoma, but I
wasn't
> prepared for the news at the time since he was a hyper, super-
aggressive
> doggie assasian that the thought of him being so still was unheard
of.
> So I said no, and to go ahead with surgery in March 2004.  He
became the
> water cooler subject at the clinic because they were rather
fascinated
> with the tumor they removed from his abs - thought it was attached
to
> the spleen, but it turned out that it was a HUGE unbroken tumor
that
> went from his spine to the bottom part of the belly. Took up all
the
> space in his abs. Then of course, there was the fact that he bit a
> stupid vet tech the day after surgery, who had to go to the ER to
get
> stitches and I got reprimanded to "quarantined" my dog by the
county
> animal warden (nevermind the fact that I made it clear to every
single
> tech and vet there that they CANNOT poke needles in him without me
being
> there or place a muzzle on him).
>
> Anyway, the surgery gave me at least 3 weeks of quality time with
him
> before I had to put him to sleep.  He was such a trooper.  Bear
was with
> me when CB was put to sleep. I don't believe in preventing other
animals
> from witnessing their companions to be put to sleep because how
can you
> explain to the cat or dog that their companion is forever gone?
When
> they witness it, they understand right away and can process their
> grieving unlike those constantly stressing out "where" is their
> companion/"why" is companion gone/"when" is companion coming back
since
> they were not there at the time of death.
>
> Now unfortunately, it seems Bear has hemangiosarcoma. Same
symptoms as
> Charlie Brown.  This time, there will be no surgery.  I will make
him
> comfortable as much as possible and when it is obvious that he
is "out
> of his body" or in "la la land" more than being "present", then it
will
> be time to put him to sleep.
>
> It is a little unusual to have two Shar Pei with hemangiosarcoma
> (they're not related), but Bear is old enough.  For Charlie Brown,
I
> don't know if it was genetic or his immune system simply went
haywire
> with the move to CO from VA, city life, drastic changes in life
(he does
> not handle change very well), etc etc.  Shar Pei tend to have
different
> kinds of cancer run in the breed, not hemangiosarcoma.
>
> It makes me sad, but I keep in mind that Bear has had a looooong
rich
> life. At least I've been through this once and know what to do
this time
> with Bear.  I'm glad to see this grouplist formed.  Sharing info,
> stories, education tibits helps.
> :)
> --
> Laura B., Bear & Sweet Pea
> CO
> http://home.att.net/~deaf.way/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html

Hi, a little introduction of myself and the dogs.  :)  Bear is a 14 year
old Chinese Shar Pei, also a certified hearing ear dog.  Sweet Pea is a
8 months old adopted Great Dane puppy.  She's under training to become a
service dog.

My first exposure to hemangiosarcoma was with Charlie Brown, the rescued
adopted Shar Pei before Sweet Pea. CB was approximately between the age
of 4 to 8 yrs old - no one really knew his age and teeth/health
examination was never successful because he had the strength of
PCP-users (Superman style)to battle 5 people at once to prevent being
poked by a needle or examined by a vet.... Vet recommended that CB be
put to sleep upon finding out that he had hemangiosarcoma, but I wasn't
prepared for the news at the time since he was a hyper, super-aggressive
doggie assasian that the thought of him being so still was unheard of.
So I said no, and to go ahead with surgery in March 2004.  He became the
water cooler subject at the clinic because they were rather fascinated
with the tumor they removed from his abs - thought it was attached to
the spleen, but it turned out that it was a HUGE unbroken tumor that
went from his spine to the bottom part of the belly. Took up all the
space in his abs. Then of course, there was the fact that he bit a
stupid vet tech the day after surgery, who had to go to the ER to get
stitches and I got reprimanded to "quarantined" my dog by the county
animal warden (nevermind the fact that I made it clear to every single
tech and vet there that they CANNOT poke needles in him without me being
there or place a muzzle on him).

Anyway, the surgery gave me at least 3 weeks of quality time with him
before I had to put him to sleep.  He was such a trooper.  Bear was with
me when CB was put to sleep. I don't believe in preventing other animals
from witnessing their companions to be put to sleep because how can you
explain to the cat or dog that their companion is forever gone? When
they witness it, they understand right away and can process their
grieving unlike those constantly stressing out "where" is their
companion/"why" is companion gone/"when" is companion coming back since
they were not there at the time of death.

Now unfortunately, it seems Bear has hemangiosarcoma. Same symptoms as
Charlie Brown.  This time, there will be no surgery.  I will make him
comfortable as much as possible and when it is obvious that he is "out
of his body" or in "la la land" more than being "present", then it will
be time to put him to sleep.

It is a little unusual to have two Shar Pei with hemangiosarcoma
(they're not related), but Bear is old enough.  For Charlie Brown, I
don't know if it was genetic or his immune system simply went haywire
with the move to CO from VA, city life, drastic changes in life (he does
not handle change very well), etc etc.  Shar Pei tend to have different
kinds of cancer run in the breed, not hemangiosarcoma.

It makes me sad, but I keep in mind that Bear has had a looooong rich
life. At least I've been through this once and know what to do this time
with Bear.  I'm glad to see this grouplist formed.  Sharing info,
stories, education tibits helps.
:)
--
Laura B., Bear & Sweet Pea
CO
http://home.att.net/~deaf.way/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html

It is horrible, I know just how you feel.  Bear was my life and I
feel so empty without him.  Oh we have other animals, a house full of
them.  I have kids....4 of them ages 16 to 24, two in the house and
two out of it.  That doesn't change what Bear meant to me...he was my
shadow, my life, my buddy, my love!  I too lost a sister to cancer
just a couple years ago.  To watch her suffer on her death bed,
begging for help to end her life was almost unbearable....but I think
just maybe, watching my Bear and loosing him hurts more if that is
possible!  I pray he is okay!!!  I know just how you feel.
As for my Ebony, although we had her as a pup, she was never the
same.  She is not my shadow, she doesn't hug...or follow, or listen
for that matter...she is just my sweet Ebony with a personality all
her own.  She did however love Bear when she was not bossing him
around.  Now she seems like an empty shell.  She just lies around,
won't waggle her tail....or eat, or perk up.  She seems so sad.  I
can't take her to bed with me at night...because her little legs are
so sore, she can't climb stairs so she is alone.  She was alone
before all this, but she didn't care...and I'm not so sure she cares
now either....she is just so depressed.  I'm trying the walks, treats
(we have to be careful with cause she is 150 lbs) and lots of hugs,
but nothing is helping.  I guess we all will get through
this...especially Ebony and I....time will heal.
I'm glad you are raising awareness for this disease....it really
needs to be done!  Maybe one day, they will have a way to diagnose it
sooner, and maybe more dogs will have a chance.
Prayers go out to our Sumner and Bear...and all the others that
suffer this horrible disease.
Love to Mollie...and Ebony hoping they too will be okay.

--- In TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com, Valerie
<valerieconsoli@o...> wrote:
> I'm so sorry you are going through this too.  Mollie was quite
sulky for a
> little over a week, we tried everything we could to keep her
cheered, going
> for rides in the car, paying lots of attention to her, lots of hugs
and
> kisses.  Like you had said, its the same here, Sumner was a big
much, he was
> always leaning right up against me, or laying in the middle of it
all (he
> was 100 lbs) so that you had to step around him...Mollie grew up
her first
> year someplace else and we adopted her when she was 1, she is very
> independent.  I love her but its not that deep soul connection like
with
> Sumner.   She is a very sweet girl, but Sumner was connected to me
the
> moment we saw each other, when he was 4 weeks old.   He was always
right at
> my side, nudging my arm to hug him, laying on top of me (and he's
basically
> bigger than me!  LOl), so much of the love is gone from our house
now.  Just
> a big empty space.  and I don't know that I'll ever be able to have
another
> Golden, I lose them all too soon.  My first Golden, Micky, died of
cancer
> when he was ten, it was a diagnosable cancer but back then in the
80's there
> weren't so many treatments like now.  When I went looking for
Sumner I
> wanted to get him from a good bloodline, one that didn't have
cancer, I was
> told there was no history of cancer, which I know now is bull
because this
> cancer is genetic.  It is passed down through the bloodline.  I
lost Sumner
> even younger and faster than Micky.  I pray to God that none of
this happens
> to Mollie.  Both my boys died in pain from cancer.  I lost both my
parents
> to it as well, and at this point, I just don't have any room inside
me for
> any more pain and sadness.
>
> Its good you put your baby to sleep, he would have passed soon in
pain
> anyway, like Sumner did.  By the time he started having the
seizures,
> shortly after, maybe an hour, he was starting to cough up the
bloody phlegm,
> then we were going to take him to the emergency hospital  and I
think he
> knew and didn't want to do, so he let go at home, within maybe
twenty
> minutes, right as we were about to take him.  I came in the room
and he was
> seizing up again and I just jumped down on top of him and wrapped
my arms
> around him, my husband was outside getting the car.  and Sumner was
coughing
> up more blood and then he passed.  Its a vision I can't get out of
my head,
> it haunts me.  I was screaming for my husband but he couldn't hear
me.  I
> ran outside to him and he just knew.  I'm glad he wasn't there to
see it, I
> don't think he would have been able to handle seeing how horrible
it was.
> but I wouldn't have had it any other way, even if I have to be
haunted til
> the day I die, I would never have let him die alone and scared.  he
was my
> child, my dearest child, we  raised him just as we would have a
human child,
> and I loved him as deeply.  I don't know for sure, but I think this
is
> harder than even when I lost my Mom.  Its horrible.
>
> I wrote to Oprah last week about this disease, I thought maybe she
has
> Goldens and other dogs and loves them, perhaps she could help bring
> awareness to this horrible disease.  The more people that know
about it, the
> better the cances of fighting it and finding a cure.  I even made a
list of
> celebrities that have Goldens (Goldens and shepherds get it most
often) with
> the thought of contacting them somehow and asking them to help the
Sumner
> Foundation reach more people.  But I don't have a printer to make
> professional looking letters so I haven't yet.
>
> Ok I've babbled enough.
>
>
>
> Valerie
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> would be if you lost everything you have right now, and then got it
back
> again."-Frances Rodman
>
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> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 10/12/04 10:07:29
> To: TheSumnerFoundation@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TheSumnerFoundation] Hello again
>
>
> I'm so sorry to read about Summer, I know just how you are
feeling.
> It is the worst, emptiest feeling I've ever felt in my life.  On
top
> of it, to have to decide to have the vet come and put my Bear down,
> to kill my Bear...that was such a hard decision to make.  I am not
> one to kill any living thing, but here I was making the choice to
> have my baby put to sleep, the worse thing I've ever had to do.  I
> still don't know if it was the right choice or not...I would have
> much rather he died in his sleep on his own, but to see him
> suffer...at the time I didn't think he wished to live!  He would
have
> gone soon I'm sure because now that I think of it, the night before
> he too had a seizure.  He laid on his bed...and his body stiffened
up
> and he shook from head to toe.  It only lasted a minute and I
didn't
> know what to think of it.  He was lost when it stopped....so sad
and
> so sick.
> Anyway I wanted to ask you please, I read you have another baby
> there...how did your other dog take it?
> I too have another dog, Ebony...another Newf. Ebony is younger..she
> is 4 right now.  Ebony always was different, she is not as loving
as
> Bear was, she is more independent (where Bear was my shadow).
Ebony
> has hip and elbow displasia severely in all four legs.  As a pup
when
> we found out...our breeder wanted us to have her put to sleep
because
> of it, but as you know....they become your kids and I wouldn't hear
> of putting her down just because she had sore legs.  Well she is
now
> 4....and I am sure she is missing Bear as much as I am.  The life
has
> gone out of her, she eating next to nothing, and moping around.
The
> only time she comes to live is during her walks (which are short
> because of her legs).
> Did your other pup have a hard time with Summer's death?
> Thanks...
>
>
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I'm so sorry to read about Summer, I know just how you are feeling.
It is the worst, emptiest feeling I've ever felt in my life.  On top
of it, to have to decide to have the vet come and put my Bear down,
to kill my Bear...that was such a hard decision to make.  I am not
one to kill any living thing, but here I was making the choice to
have my baby put to sleep, the worse thing I've ever had to do.  I
still don't know if it was the right choice or not...I would have
much rather he died in his sleep on his own, but to see him
suffer...at the time I didn't think he wished to live!  He would have
gone soon I'm sure because now that I think of it, the night before
he too had a seizure.  He laid on his bed...and his body stiffened up
and he shook from head to toe.  It only lasted a minute and I didn't
know what to think of it.  He was lost when it stopped....so sad and
so sick.
Anyway I wanted to ask you please, I read you have another baby
there...how did your other dog take it?
I too have another dog, Ebony...another Newf. Ebony is younger..she
is 4 right now.  Ebony always was different, she is not as loving as
Bear was, she is more independent (where Bear was my shadow).  Ebony
has hip and elbow displasia severely in all four legs.  As a pup when
we found out...our breeder wanted us to have her put to sleep because
of it, but as you know....they become your kids and I wouldn't hear
of putting her down just because she had sore legs.  Well she is now
4....and I am sure she is missing Bear as much as I am.  The life has
gone out of her, she eating next to nothing, and moping around.  The
only time she comes to live is during her walks (which are short
because of her legs).
Did your other pup have a hard time with Summer's death?
Thanks...

I'm sorry for all those that have to watch their companion go
through this cancer!
Our beloved Newfoundland dog named Bear passed away with the help of
our vet on October 7th 2004.
Bear was a very tall Newf, and underweight weighing only 125 lbs
which for his size was not enough. He was not quite 6 when we
noticed he had a bump on his spine. With in a week another bump
appeared. We took him to the vet for surgery to remove these bumps
and have them tested. The results came back stating he had
hemangiosarcoma, most likely metastatic. Bear seemed fine up until
two days before his surgery. Two days before, he started limping
slightly. I figured it was the bumps on his spine.
The vets told us he had 3 weeks to 6 months to live. Well they were
wrong. Bear was diagnosed with this cancer on September 30. He
continued to become worse, getting very weak, not eating, wasn't
happy. Bear refused dog food, so we made everything from chicken,
steak, potatoes...all his favourites trying to get him to eat. We
had to coax him into eating daily...
One week after his dignose of cancer...Bear couldn't get up off the
ground, he tried...but his feet buckled under him and he fell. We
helped him to his feet using towels under his body as supports for
us to lift him with...but he would continue to fall. His breathing
was rapid, his tail between his legs, his head down and eyes
drooping. He had no life left in him. He could barely moves his
head from one side to another. In one weeks time...my Bear went
from my loving puppy, full of life to a dog so sick and weak, he
couldn't move. He couldn't get up to go outside and relieve
himself...my poor Bear.
We decided to call the vet, have him come to our home to put our
baby to sleep forever!
How can one make the decission to end a life...one we love so much?
Do we have the right to decide his fate?
We sat with our Bear, my husband, my daughters and myself. Bear's
head hugged in my arms...while my husband and daughters pet him on
his back...and the vet started his job. My Bear passed quickly. My
Bear....I can't get over it...he was or seemed so healthy, we
thought he would live forever. So young...gone so early. I miss
him more than words can tell...he was my shadow, he was not your
average Newf for Bear was very scared most of his life...he always
stuck to me like glue, he was my shadow...everywhere I went, there
was Bear. My shadow is gone...and I feel so terrible that we had to
put down our friend. Did he wish to go...??? Is he afraid with out
me there...??? I worry about him so much....and miss him even
more!
I hope no other animal goes through what my Bear did.