Dave,
This discussion on Epsom salts is all well and good. Who uses them and
who doesn't believe that it is absolutely necessary to use them. The
benefits and the hazards of using too much is all being discussed here is in
itself a beneficial thing for the novices to read and to learn from them.
This information is coming from some top flyers from Canada and the USA and
from the UK, guys that know what they're doing, in other words experienced
fanciers.
I have not given my kits epsom salts for many years now and have had
some decent flying results just the same. Fanciers, such as Nino, can
achieve success without the use of epsom salts. I tend to agree with Nino.
More fanciers should come forward and reveal whether they give their kits
epsom salts prior to a contest.

All the best,

Stan

----- Original Message -----
From: "david fuller" <thefullers@...>
To: <TipplerTalk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TipplerTalk] Epsom Saltsdave f


> Hi Neen,
> Glad you piped up. But I am shocked you are going againest all
> recommendations by your dare. Shame on you. If you want to know
> something
> more about Epsom Salts, please go to the Epsom Salts Council at
> http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/index.htm and spit your venom at them. I
> am
> not writing that anyone is right or wrong here, only that there is
> conflicting evidence. Of course there could be some harm if used
> improperly
> as you propose. But not one of the old boys recommends the use of epsom
> salts as you propose. Take it easy Nino, no one is fighting, this is only
> a
> discussion. And from the evidence found all over the internet, there is a
> lot of benifit to the use of epsom salts, including a laxitive, which is
> the
> only way it was recommended by the old boys, and only once. I would also
> like to point that many flyers only fly their kits once or twice in
> competition per year. And if used in a reasonable way only once or twice,
> and in a resonable amount, there should be no problem with it's use. And
> again, as I have written in all my salts messages, over use is not the
> proper way to use anything. You write that it's a crock to listen to me,
> but you dare me to use the product in a dangerous way. Come on Neen is
> that
> all ya got?
> Let's continue to be friendly and move on, I don't think anyone is going
> to
> write anyone else into changing their opinion on epsom salts. Use it
> properly or not, that's the best I've got... :-)
> Yours in the sport,
> Dave
>
>
>
>>From: "Nino" <nino@...>
>>Reply-To: TipplerTalk@yahoogroups.com
>>To: <TipplerTalk@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [TipplerTalk] Epsom Saltsdave f
>>Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:03:00 -0500
>>
>>David,
>>
>>The vet is renowned for his work, or I guess that means nothing to you.
>>You
>>and the "OLD BOYS" no better I guess !!
>>
>>What a crock listening to your shit man. I tell you what, you Mick and
>>others think it can do no harm, and by the mere fact that the birds flew
>>some great times seems to be your ticket here. So I have two proposals
>>here, first put your breeders on the salts for just one week while feeding
>>youngsters, second before you fly your kit put them on it for the last
>>three days before you intend to fly them for a long days flying.
>>
>>Come on guys, its not harmed any in the past !! They still fly all day !
>>
>>Nino
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "david fuller" <thefullers@...>
>>To: <TipplerTalk@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 6:52 PM
>>Subject: RE: [TipplerTalk] Epsom Saltsdave f
>>
>>
>> > Hi Wayne,
>> > Sorry, I didn't see any research in Nino's article. And just because a
>> > Vet
>> > writes an article does not mean it is researched, and how do we know
>> > the
>> > research was not flawed? And how do we know it was not just his
>>opinion?
>> > Then researched to fit the issue. There has been lots of research that
>> > proves that vehicles are detrimental to our health. In fact, I think
>>they
>> > kill more people than most other threats. Pigeons break records after
>> > being
>> > given Epsom Salts. And that's a fact. All I'm saying is that we seem
>>to
>> > have conflicting facts here. As usual, heh, heh.
>> > Yours in the sport,
>> > Dave
>> >
>>
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