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RE: [british_insects] Wrong IDs

It may be female Chironomid and there are certainly some that live in
brackish of fully salt water. Halocladius varians is quite common along the
Sussex coast as is Thalassosmitia thalassophila. The later, a small black
insect, often swarms around seaweed on rocks and breakwaters when the tide
goes out.

One of the most remarkable is Clunio marinus, again sometimes quite common
in Sussex at low tide. The tiny males fly about small rock pools, often
skating on the surface, whereas the females are wingless and usually hidden
in crevices but can be found by following the males.

I am not sure if anyone knows what happens to these intertidal insects when
the water comes in. Some believe they complete mating in the time
available, others that they might survive in air pockets (unlikely, I
think). I did once keep a male T. thalassophila and it lived for several
days, so they may go somewhere out of harm's way.

It reminds me of the smoke flies, Microsania spp. (Diptera: PLatypezidae)
that appear in our garden if we have a summer bonfire. They are well-known
in their predeliction for smoke, but are very rarely caught anywhere else
and I believe the early stages are still unknown, though they may breed in
fungi. They will, however, sometimes turn up in some quantities within a
very few minutes if a fire is lit. The males swarm in dense smoke that we
would find quite suffocating, and follow the column if it shifts in the
wind, but this strange habit makes an excellent protection from hungry
birds.

Patrick Roper



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> I expect it is a Chironomidae ?
> http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Midge080.jpg
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> Although, I am sure I have seen them before, it struck me as strange that
> they were on the surface film of full salinity seawater at Widewater.
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> Location: Widewater
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Having got two IDs wrong in quick succession (and I accept the corrections), I think I must stop trying to identify insects from photographs - it shows how...
Patrick Roper
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Aug 23, 2005
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Hello Patrick Don't stop! I know that photo's can be misleading but I value your knowledge of insects and would miss out from benefiting from it if you...
Ray Hamblett
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Aug 23, 2005
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... corrections), ... shows ... I don't think that you should stop. I appreciated your suggestion and I know that identification can be very difficult, which...
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Aug 23, 2005
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Only those who never suggest ID's don't make mistakes - or rather only make one! As long as we all understand that an ID from photos (whomever it come from, ...
Philippe Moniotte
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I agree with those who support Patrick. We all know how difficult it is to id. Any suggestion can be of assistance even if occasionally a mistake is made as it...
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Aug 23, 2005
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Hello I am glad I am not the only one that mistakes. Identifying from wild photographs in-situ is scientific knowledge. It might only be the genus level or...
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Hello, I expect it is a Chironomidae ? http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Midge080.jpg Although, I am sure I have seen them before, it struck me as strange that they...
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It may be female Chironomid and there are certainly some that live in brackish of fully salt water. Halocladius varians is quite common along the Sussex coast...
Patrick Roper
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Aug 24, 2005
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I mis-spelt 'Thalassomsmittia' in the e-mail below. It has two ts as it the previous sentence. Patrick...
Patrick Roper
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I Hope Patrick will forgive me if I risk embarrassing him by saying this is a sample of his encyclopedic knowledge There is a BBC visit to Romney Marsh where...
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Hello, Thanks for the suggestions, Patrick. I omitted to say (left out one word) that these insects were skating on the surface of the lagoon. ...
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