Nige, too bad it's not MY argument. It's YOUR argument. You talked yourself right into it by claiming that animals are no different than people. <br><br>Lack...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 30, 1999 11:35 am
No, there's no point in having this discussion at all, because you're wrong. Period.<br><br>Donny...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 30, 1999 6:59 am
You dismiss animals as being lesser beings because they breed and breed without regard to ecological constraints, but humans do exactly the same.<br><br>You...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 30, 1999 6:53 am
Ok - so where are your figures???<br><br>there is no point in having this discussion if you rebuff my factual remarks with subjective ones....
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 30, 1999 12:43 am
The impact of predators is minute compared to the impact of humans<<<< As a generalization, that is true, but should be qualified to include the ...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 30, 1999 12:00 am
No, obviously OUTDATED.<br><br>Next.<br><br>Longbowlio...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 29, 1999 9:30 pm
The impact of predators is minute compared to the impact of humans. It is humans that despoil the earth and who cannot control their numbers. Humanity will ...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 29, 1999 9:17 pm
The comparison of produce per acre comes from Soil & Water v 38 University of california cooperative extension 1978, and the 70% of grain fed to animals comes ...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 29, 1999 3:30 pm
And when natural predators are restored to the ecosystem and they are eating all your neighbors, then what are you going to do, smartguy?<br><br>We got ...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 29, 1999 3:26 pm
Ok... so what sources do you rely on to compare US grain consumption? Are you relying on ALF or PeTA fact sheets?<br> <br>Surely even you know that those ...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 28, 1999 11:58 pm
Oh, so mass extinction due to indifference is humane? Look, if the naimal becomes a liability, as you are proposing, then it becomes no more that a piece of...
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mapenneau
Sep 28, 1999 11:22 pm
Well you have a typical city person view of the way nature works.I have lived out in the country all my life,no nabores for a mile or so.I know first hand what...
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mapenneau
Sep 28, 1999 11:19 pm
You post some real good people that were veggis,but you miss out on the only country and group that baned animal experaments,guss what thay used ...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 28, 1999 10:15 pm
Animals keep their numbers in check rather well. Because humans get rid of predators, animals such as rabbits and deer can run amok. It's humans who can't...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 28, 1999 10:09 pm
And how many more pounds of protein do you get from your crops compared to meat on this 80 acre field? With cattle you have to feed them on something - so that...
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mapenneau
Sep 28, 1999 3:12 pm
Man I realy hate the same old AR argument about killing human animals and so called non-human amimals.There is a real big diferance between the two.<br><br>I ...
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mapenneau
Sep 28, 1999 3:01 pm
Great post long bow.Now lets talk about a 80 acer field of soy beans,or corn or wheat that is what I grow out here,along with a few cows.<br><br>Now depending ...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 28, 1999 9:47 am
DudeYou really need to take in what people are writing. Animals are not our equals, just like all people are not equal. That doesn't mean we eat people who are...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 28, 1999 12:17 am
No, my Grandma built tanks for the European Theatre in W.W.II.<br><br>Show me ANY example of the specie accomplishing the same feat? OR, an equal ...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 28, 1999 12:13 am
Ok Smartguy, lets do some math here. 10 tons of water = 3030 gallons. In a year's time, lets say the average cow gets to be 1200 lbs. Throw away half for ...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 27, 1999 6:56 pm
longbowlio <br>Your grandma never built a bridge, designed a building etc etc. Because individuals aren't technical doesn't mean they should have fewer rights....
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 27, 1999 12:43 pm
Now let me see. If a cow occupies a piece of land, that land cannot be used to grow crops, right? As the cow will need winter feed that has to be grown on ...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 27, 1999 11:30 am
How in the hell is my morning glass of milk responsible for civil wars in Ethiopia and the Sudan? For cryin out loud.. use an argument that you didn't just...
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nige_the_vegan
Sep 26, 1999 10:21 pm
crkelle<br>You say that animals don't know any better. Take a wild animal and put it in a cage. It will obviously try to escape so it does know better. If you...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 26, 1999 3:45 am
Show me the dolphin that built a bridge. Show me the deer that designed a building. Show me the monkey that developed a vaccine. Show me the dog that developed...
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drummergirl2001
Sep 25, 1999 5:48 am
Ok, I'm new to the club, but I have loved animals all my life. I wasn't an animal rights person, I just believed in the humane treatment of animals. But let me...
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Gr8Longbowlio
Sep 22, 1999 2:19 am
What have you been smoking? The deer in the highway is a kid chasing a ball? It has a "right" to be there? <br><br>Do you actually HEAR yourself talk? I don't...
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A_O_U
Sep 20, 1999 6:03 pm
Glad to see some life here! That is why I posted my message on this board entitled "No more issue??"<br><br>In light of some of the comments made here...
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crkelle
Sep 20, 1999 4:17 am
Well, I'll burst the animal rights bubble. you've been exposed for the extremists you are!! No one really cares about animal rights, except those who belong to...
