Hi Bobby

what is Levy's herbal book, have never heard of it. Hope you enjoy reading MM.

I have now put my kitten on Ronaxon antibiotic to see if helps his eyes.

Best Wishes
Di
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bobby y
   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:03 AM
   Subject: [felineherpes] Re: macleod's mm and Day's book


   Just received the MM in the mail today-also got Levy's herbal book
   and ordered some more homeopathic tablets-
   thank you for recommendation-
   Snowy is beginning to feel better again-but he is still tear staining
   a lot-I am also afraid to give him a bath-I don't want to add any
   stress-this little guy has already been through too much-
   I am hoping to get one of those combs with a blade to see if i can
   take off his mats the way the vet did-tried electric clipper again but
   this time Snowy wasn't receptive
   Bobby
   --- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
   > Hi Bobby
   >
   > Dosage for nosodes.  200c once a day for 3 days wait a week and
   repeat as needed.
   >
   > Yes you are right about Silicea it does move things, that is way it
   is good for a cat who has discharge up it nose and in the eyes, it
   pushes it out, and keeps it flowing, so it doesn't stuff the nose up.
   >
   > I have also read  phos acid is good for debilitated cats.
   > Di  Laming
   > Brindi Siamese & Orientals
   > dilaming@b...
   >
   >
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Just received the MM in the mail today-also got Levy's herbal book
and ordered some more homeopathic tablets-
thank you for recommendation-
Snowy is beginning to feel better again-but he is still tear staining
a lot-I am also afraid to give him a bath-I don't want to add any
stress-this little guy has already been through too much-
I am hoping to get one of those combs with a blade to see if i can
take off his mats the way the vet did-tried electric clipper again but
this time Snowy wasn't receptive
Bobby
--- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
> Hi Bobby
>
> Dosage for nosodes.  200c once a day for 3 days wait a week and
repeat as needed.
>
> Yes you are right about Silicea it does move things, that is way it
is good for a cat who has discharge up it nose and in the eyes, it
pushes it out, and keeps it flowing, so it doesn't stuff the nose up.
>
> I have also read  phos acid is good for debilitated cats.
> Di  Laming
> Brindi Siamese & Orientals
> dilaming@b...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Bobby

Dosage for nosodes.  200c once a day for 3 days wait a week and repeat as
needed.

Yes you are right about Silicea it does move things, that is way it is good for
a cat who has discharge up it nose and in the eyes, it pushes it out, and keeps
it flowing, so it doesn't stuff the nose up.

I have also read  phos acid is good for debilitated cats.
Di  Laming
Brindi Siamese & Orientals
dilaming@...


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Day says the above remedies might help build our kitty cats up after
being debilitated-
he also warns re dehydration
thank goodness I see Snowy drinking
lately I have been buying mineral water for all of them-
(ps reminds me years ago when I was in Italy how my Italian friend
kept on telling me to drink it drink it and it aids digestion :-)
Bobby

please post it re dosage etc-but I am still hesitant-Hamilton and
Day warn re nosodes if kitty cat(cat always sounds too harsh for me)-
isn't well-Snowy is always getting sick -
Lita from pets4homeopathy warned me big time re use of silcea-she said
it is very powerful-really moves things-so I know your kitty cat
doesn't have a foreign object to dispel-
Day recomes calc fluor for yellow or thick green discharge
-- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
> Hi Bobby
>
> I think The Veterinary MM, is a very good book to have, it tells
you
in more depth  about what remedies to use for most problems.
>
> I would use a 200c nosode on Snowy. If you want the dosing, let me
know and I will post it.
>
> My kittens eyes are now all clear from redness and discharge, but
he
now has green discharge coming from his nose again. I am now going to
put him on a course of Silicea, which expels things from the body.
>
> Chat Soon
> Di
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bobby y
>   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:46 PM
>   Subject: [felineherpes] Re: re nosodes euphrasia
>
>
>   Hi-
>   I have both macleod's dog and cat book-do you think I should
>   get the Veterinary MM?
>   I feel so much anguish when I see Snowy and Morgy and any animal
>   for that matter suffering-
>   I don't have euphrasia mother tincture-guess I will buy it-I made
>   a bilberry eyebright herbal mix-but even though I diluted big time
>   in saline solution-it seemed to bother Snowy-
>   Don Hamilton warned re nosodes-not that they weren't great-but
>   possibly you needed a professional to work with you-
>   page 164-Macleod in CATS- immune/defence system, treatment will
at
>   best be speculative...The use of a nosode prepared from infected
>   blood
>   or infested material should materially assist the action of
selected
>   remedies"- if I order the nosodes should I get both or the 200c
since
>   poor snowy is chronic -
>   today he finally perked up-
>   have you tried the tea bags?
>   also I just refuse to give him any antibiotics unless he is
seriously
>   ill-
>   the hopeful part is he hasn't needed them for about four months
now-
>   at least he has ability to recover-whereas when he was very young-
>   he couldn't-
>   The product I wrote about from Dr. Gloria Dodd-didn't contain
nosodes
>   but remedy to counteract vaccinations-Snowy has been too sick for
>   vaccinations-thank goodness-then there would be total chaos in his
>   "immune system"-
>   I am also investigating constitutional remedies-I want to feed him
>   raw-but I can't- tried and he had diahrrea-I am terrified at the
sign
>   of diahrrea in this prolapse kitty cat-I have already rushed him
the
>   vet I think twice-when he had it
>   also will never again give him slippery elm-he had a colitis like
>   attack-
>   I also have Pitcairn's book,Herbs for Pets,Hamilton's book,Day's
>   book,Woollf's book and Dr. goldstein's book-the trouble with Dr.
>   Goldstein's book is that he is so optimistic-I think it is
misleading-
>   bwdik
>   Bobby
>   re feline lymphtrophic lentivrus
>   --- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
>   > Hi Bobby
>   >
>   > Yes I have Macleod homeopathic book, I have had it for years
and
it
>   is one of the best, I also have his other book called Veterinary
>   Materia Medica and Clinical Repertory, which is also worth having.
>   >
>   > For eyes I use Euphrasia drops, easy to make up you use
Euphrasia
>   mother tincture, its one drop of mother tincture to 10 drops of
water.
>   >
>   > Nosodes are very safe to use, don't be worried about using
them,
I
>   have been using the 30 c nosode for both flu virus. I have been
told
>   by a qualified homeopathic to use 200c when you are dealing with
>   severe caseses of Herpes. So am waiting to receive the 200c to
start
>   the course.
>   >
>   > I have had to drop his vit C down as he started to get diarroha.
>   >
>   > Have been onto some of the sites you recommend, they have some
>   really useful information.
>   >
>   > Chat soon
>   > Regards Di
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: bobby y
>   >   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:55 AM
>   >   Subject: [felineherpes] re Macleod homeopathic book
>   >
>   >
>   >   do you have any homeopathic books-I have five now-his book is
>   >   awesome-he lists all the symptoms and tells the remedies-
>   >   Here in the US,you can get the book for under 12 dollars-
>   >   Bobby
>   >
>   >
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Hi Bobby

I think The Veterinary MM, is a very good book to have, it tells you in more
depth  about what remedies to use for most problems.

I would use a 200c nosode on Snowy. If you want the dosing, let me know and I
will post it.

My kittens eyes are now all clear from redness and discharge, but he now has
green discharge coming from his nose again. I am now going to put him on a
course of Silicea, which expels things from the body.

Chat Soon
Di
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bobby y
   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:46 PM
   Subject: [felineherpes] Re: re nosodes euphrasia


   Hi-
   I have both macleod's dog and cat book-do you think I should
   get the Veterinary MM?
   I feel so much anguish when I see Snowy and Morgy and any animal
   for that matter suffering-
   I don't have euphrasia mother tincture-guess I will buy it-I made
   a bilberry eyebright herbal mix-but even though I diluted big time
   in saline solution-it seemed to bother Snowy-
   Don Hamilton warned re nosodes-not that they weren't great-but
   possibly you needed a professional to work with you-
   page 164-Macleod in CATS- immune/defence system, treatment will at
   best be speculative...The use of a nosode prepared from infected
   blood
   or infested material should materially assist the action of selected
   remedies"- if I order the nosodes should I get both or the 200c since
   poor snowy is chronic -
   today he finally perked up-
   have you tried the tea bags?
   also I just refuse to give him any antibiotics unless he is seriously
   ill-
   the hopeful part is he hasn't needed them for about four months now-
   at least he has ability to recover-whereas when he was very young-
   he couldn't-
   The product I wrote about from Dr. Gloria Dodd-didn't contain nosodes
   but remedy to counteract vaccinations-Snowy has been too sick for
   vaccinations-thank goodness-then there would be total chaos in his
   "immune system"-
   I am also investigating constitutional remedies-I want to feed him
   raw-but I can't- tried and he had diahrrea-I am terrified at the sign
   of diahrrea in this prolapse kitty cat-I have already rushed him the
   vet I think twice-when he had it
   also will never again give him slippery elm-he had a colitis like
   attack-
   I also have Pitcairn's book,Herbs for Pets,Hamilton's book,Day's
   book,Woollf's book and Dr. goldstein's book-the trouble with Dr.
   Goldstein's book is that he is so optimistic-I think it is misleading-
   bwdik
   Bobby
   re feline lymphtrophic lentivrus
   --- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
   > Hi Bobby
   >
   > Yes I have Macleod homeopathic book, I have had it for years and it
   is one of the best, I also have his other book called Veterinary
   Materia Medica and Clinical Repertory, which is also worth having.
   >
   > For eyes I use Euphrasia drops, easy to make up you use Euphrasia
   mother tincture, its one drop of mother tincture to 10 drops of water.
   >
   > Nosodes are very safe to use, don't be worried about using them, I
   have been using the 30 c nosode for both flu virus. I have been told
   by a qualified homeopathic to use 200c when you are dealing with
   severe caseses of Herpes. So am waiting to receive the 200c to start
   the course.
   >
   > I have had to drop his vit C down as he started to get diarroha.
   >
   > Have been onto some of the sites you recommend, they have some
   really useful information.
   >
   > Chat soon
   > Regards Di
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: bobby y
   >   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
   >   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:55 AM
   >   Subject: [felineherpes] re Macleod homeopathic book
   >
   >
   >   do you have any homeopathic books-I have five now-his book is
   >   awesome-he lists all the symptoms and tells the remedies-
   >   Here in the US,you can get the book for under 12 dollars-
   >   Bobby
   >
   >
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Hi-
I have both macleod's dog and cat book-do you think I should
get the Veterinary MM?
I feel so much anguish when I see Snowy and Morgy and any animal
for that matter suffering-
I don't have euphrasia mother tincture-guess I will buy it-I made
a bilberry eyebright herbal mix-but even though I diluted big time
in saline solution-it seemed to bother Snowy-
Don Hamilton warned re nosodes-not that they weren't great-but
possibly you needed a professional to work with you-
page 164-Macleod in CATS- immune/defence system, treatment will at
best be speculative...The use of a nosode prepared from infected
blood
or infested material should materially assist the action of selected
remedies"- if I order the nosodes should I get both or the 200c since
poor snowy is chronic -
today he finally perked up-
have you tried the tea bags?
also I just refuse to give him any antibiotics unless he is seriously
ill-
the hopeful part is he hasn't needed them for about four months now-
at least he has ability to recover-whereas when he was very young-
he couldn't-
The product I wrote about from Dr. Gloria Dodd-didn't contain nosodes
but remedy to counteract vaccinations-Snowy has been too sick for
vaccinations-thank goodness-then there would be total chaos in his
"immune system"-
I am also investigating constitutional remedies-I want to feed him
raw-but I can't- tried and he had diahrrea-I am terrified at the sign
of diahrrea in this prolapse kitty cat-I have already rushed him the
vet I think twice-when he had it
also will never again give him slippery elm-he had a colitis like
attack-
I also have Pitcairn's book,Herbs for Pets,Hamilton's book,Day's
book,Woollf's book and Dr. goldstein's book-the trouble with Dr.
Goldstein's book is that he is so optimistic-I think it is misleading-
bwdik
Bobby
re feline lymphtrophic lentivrus
--- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
> Hi Bobby
>
> Yes I have Macleod homeopathic book, I have had it for years and it
is one of the best, I also have his other book called Veterinary
Materia Medica and Clinical Repertory, which is also worth having.
>
> For eyes I use Euphrasia drops, easy to make up you use Euphrasia
mother tincture, its one drop of mother tincture to 10 drops of water.
>
> Nosodes are very safe to use, don't be worried about using them, I
have been using the 30 c nosode for both flu virus. I have been told
by a qualified homeopathic to use 200c when you are dealing with
severe caseses of Herpes. So am waiting to receive the 200c to start
the course.
>
> I have had to drop his vit C down as he started to get diarroha.
>
> Have been onto some of the sites you recommend, they have some
really useful information.
>
> Chat soon
> Regards Di
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bobby y
>   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:55 AM
>   Subject: [felineherpes] re Macleod homeopathic book
>
>
>   do you have any homeopathic books-I have five now-his book is
>   awesome-he lists all the symptoms and tells the remedies-
>   Here in the US,you can get the book for under 12 dollars-
>   Bobby
>
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Hi Bobby

Yes I have Macleod homeopathic book, I have had it for years and it is one of
the best, I also have his other book called Veterinary Materia Medica and
Clinical Repertory, which is also worth having.

For eyes I use Euphrasia drops, easy to make up you use Euphrasia mother
tincture, its one drop of mother tincture to 10 drops of water.

Nosodes are very safe to use, don't be worried about using them, I have been
using the 30 c nosode for both flu virus. I have been told by a qualified
homeopathic to use 200c when you are dealing with severe caseses of Herpes. So
am waiting to receive the 200c to start the course.

I have had to drop his vit C down as he started to get diarroha.

Have been onto some of the sites you recommend, they have some really useful
information.

Chat soon
Regards Di
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bobby y
   To: felineherpes@egroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:55 AM
   Subject: [felineherpes] re Macleod homeopathic book


   do you have any homeopathic books-I have five now-his book is
   awesome-he lists all the symptoms and tells the remedies-
   Here in the US,you can get the book for under 12 dollars-
   Bobby


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do you have any homeopathic books-I have five now-his book is
awesome-he lists all the symptoms and tells the remedies-
Here in the US,you can get the book for under 12 dollars-
Bobby

Hi-I hope we can share and have more people join and share some more-
On this egroup site-I am adding links and files-on my website
http://www.thensome.com/felinehealthlinks.htm I am adding more links
re feline herpes fvr etc- I also have another page
http://www.thensome.com/herpes.htm
I haven't used any nosodes-I am afraid to use them if I am not using
them in conjunction with a homeopathic vet-
Have you tried chamomille teabags as a compress? Have also been told
that tea bags with tannic acid can help-am a worrywort so bothered
by caffeine in tea-but nobody seems concerned about that-
I just ordered allium cepa- onion-will see what that does-
can your kitty cat tolerate the vitamin C?
I also have a page http://www.thensome.com/immunesystem.htm that
has links to immune boosters-
I am also playing with the idea of adding moducare or colostrum or
lactoferrin-
have you gone to http://www.evevet.org
I tried cod liver oil drops in snowy's eyes-but stopped-
Snowy has been the most perfect lemon since I adopted him at six
months old-he has gotten better-his eye was closed most of the time-
but then when I switched food to Wysong-it stayed open-then for two
or three months he stayed symptom free-all the antibiotics before
I got him plus his herpes probably caused his massive first prolapse-
almost the size of him-then he had second prolapse-first vet did
purse
string-then next day when it popped-did the major second
surgery-retacking his colon down-then the cottage cheese restored
the flora and stopped the chronic constipation-
Now he hasn't pooped in two or three days :-( His face is all matted
again-he has so much black crud- This latest episode was triggered
by stress of going to vet for a rabies waiver-
Bobby
--- In felineherpes@egroups.com, "Di" <dilaming@b...> wrote:
> Hi, I'm new to this list
>
> Could you please help, I have bought a kitten ,he is now 6 months
old and possible has Rhinotractiteis or Calici virus. Since I've had
him, he has had, yellow/green nasal discharge, and conjunctivitis
also
with yellow/ green discharge. know matter what homeopathic eye remedy
and eye cream I give him, I cann't seem to get his eyes cleared, they
clear and get better for a few days, then they inflame up again.
>  He is  on Rhinotractiteis, Calici, Chlamydia Nosode, Echinacea
tincture and Vit.C daily.
> He is eating ok and seems perfectly healthy apart from the above.
> Is there anything else I could try.
> Cheers
> Di
>
>
>
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Hi, I'm new to this list

Could you please help, I have bought a kitten ,he is now 6 months old and
possible has Rhinotractiteis or Calici virus. Since I've had him, he has had,
yellow/green nasal discharge, and conjunctivitis also with yellow/ green
discharge. know matter what homeopathic eye remedy and eye cream I give him, I
cann't seem to get his eyes cleared, they clear and get better for a few days,
then they inflame up again.
  He is  on Rhinotractiteis, Calici, Chlamydia Nosode, Echinacea tincture and
Vit.C daily.
He is eating ok and seems perfectly healthy apart from the above.
Is there anything else I could try.
Cheers
Di



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CAT VACCINE NOSODE 30C - Feline Distemper,Feline Inf. Peritonitis,
     Rhinotracheitis, Calci, Feline Leukemia, Lyme's Disease, FTLV
(Aids) http://www.everglo-naturalvet.com/vitamins.htm
thinking of buying that-wonder if anybody knows about it
Bobby

asked my vet again vitamin c and possible stomach problems-he said
in his experience most animals tolerate it and for me just to go
slowly-
he also said he would be willing to order some of the boiron
homeopathic vet products for me-so i guess I call them on monday to
find out what they might suggest-
also am thinking of trying some of this places remedies
http://www.similasan.com/us/hom/intro.asp?menu=h -hope the url works-
Snowy is beginning to feel better again-currently just back again
to saline solution-since he has had multiple prolapses-while he
fighting off the latest episode-don't want to rock the boat-he didn't
appreciate the cod liver oil-or the eyebright bilberry soak :-(
that is why I am also looking more into homeopathy-besides his
responding so well to bryonia :-)
In dr. goldstein's Nature of Animal Healing-he mentions some of their
products-
ps the book is worthwhile getting if not just for exposure to
alternatives available- especially since one can buy it now for under
I think $12 dollars from http://www.vitamin-resources.com
Bobby

http://www.theholisticchannel.com/Homeo/Hayfever_hm.htm

L-Lysine has been recommended to me by my cat's ophthalmologist.
I  give my cat about  250 mg  daily. If you can  pill your cat fine.
If you can not  crush pills(they are very hard use motar and pestlel)
  and  put in liquid suspension  which you can get at your local
pharmacy.  I mix 1 pill  to 1 teaspoon of liquid suspension and
then  give her  1/2 tsp. of mixture a day.  I mix a batch and store
it in a jar so I can have a supply for weeks.  If your cat gets
conjunctivitis do not let your vet give your cat steroid eye drop
  because  steroids will cause a cat to develope corneal ulcers
this is what happened to my cat now she is partially blind - her
name is Roxi - her medical bills from 3 eye surgeries were very
expensive.  Her brother Spike has herpes virus upper respitory
illness
- he has had 2  respitory  illnessess  that were not  too bad and
has had the last 3 which were very serious.  I changed  his litter
to  a non-scented  litter and no longer use scented spray in the
room after he does one of his  stinky poops. This seems to have
worked I am not sure if these two things caused his coughing - it
has been 11 months since he has  been sick he is almost 3 years
old - he had had 5  episodes  in the first 2 years of his life.
So try doing what I did it may help.   Carol

also trying to give Snow more raw steak etc-have also read that when
their nose is stuffy-best to give food with stronger odor- guess
to break through that stuffy barrier-
am also putting immune boosting and detoxing formula in the common
water dish-lately I have been buying spring water-read that if one
uses distilled water-one should leave it out in sun first-

right now I am using some cod liver oil(read that in two holistic
books) with goldenseal with a cotton swab -Snowy got stressed from
vet's visit and had another relapse
also am using chamomille tea bags-was told that black tea would also
help-a vet of 35 years recommended that-
but keeping him away from antibiotics-
also just bought some mix with eyebright,bilberry etc and plan to use
that one also-
in the process of deciding what reishi product to buy-
also will start giving him some chamomille homeopathic tablets to
help reduce stress-

From: Lita Radford  <l_radford@h...>
                  Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 0:19am
                  Subject: Herpes/Bobby


                  I found something very interesting when I was going
over remedy notes from a
                  reputable source I can't mention on the site, I'm
sorry. BUT, it says for
                  herpes it is recommended to use Echinacea or
Calendula tincture directly on
                  the body. As well as using the tincture wich
consists
of cantharis, dulc.,
                  graphitis, lycopod., rhus, sarsaprilla 10x and
echin,
hypericum 2x,3x.
                  AND...the diet prescribed is mainly of complex
carbs,
low protein and fat.
                  Use multiple vit. and mineral, vit. C, 4000 mg. or
more a day. And use
                  remedies specifically for liver.
                  Had to share that with you because I trust this
source very much. It's Not
                  Lola, but I thought it would get your researching
mind going :) Lita
                  ____________________________________________________

think I am going to buy some for snowy-read an article re AIDS and
a Dr. recommending that-
also trying to find out more re MGM3- wonder I have IP-6 for Morgy
and his cancer-I guess I might add that to Snow's food-
still not luck getting to eat lysine in food-
have to do a bit more research re St. John's Wort's-read a couple of
negatives with vast amount of positives-

http://www.vitaminlady.com/Articles/Lysine.art.htm
Lysine tastes awful and hard time getting snowy to ingest it :-(
Bobby
http://www.thensome.com/pethealth.htm

http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/dlab/webdocs/special_cases/fhv.html

http://www.willner.com/References/webref25.htm re mushrooms reishi etc

http://www.willner.com/Products/immunecn.htm  immune system article
and herbal references etc
Bobby

My snowy has suffered so much already in his very short life-I figure
whatever it takes, I will try my best to find whatever i can to help
him get stronger-I copy and pasted Joan's synopsis of mushrooms(ps
now I have to write her and tell her what I did!)-the
more suggestions we can acquire,the better the better chances of
making our kitty cats have a better quality of life-
I have read in two sources but can't validate their statements that
possibly 80 percent of felines carry the herpesvirus-depending on the
constitutional strength-immune system-"symptoms" might or might not
show-
If we pool whatever resources we have-we might be able to help our
cats who have weakened immune systems stop many of their sickly
episodes-
Bobby
http://www.thensome.com/pethealth.htm

The product that I mentioned before -- the D fraction -- is maitake
only and has been standardized for high Beta Glucans content but the
D fraction of maitake is being studied more for diabetes than
immunity.

Here is a very quick run down of the various mushrooms:

Reishi -- stimulates immunity, anti-tumor properties,
anti-inflammatory, may alleviate arthritis

Maitake -- (the whole thing, not the D fraction)  Anti-tumor, may
protect liver, lowers blood pressure

Shiitake -- possible anti-viral, anti-cancer, acts as a
tonic/energizer

Agaricus Blazei Murill -- (Brazilian) -- anti-cancer

Hericum erinaceus -- (Lion's Mane) stomach problems (indigestion,
constipation), anti-tumor, may promote nerve growth

Cordyceps sinensis -- (Caterpillar Fungus) -- used to increase
stamina, enhance athletic performance, anti-tumor, immunity enhancer

The trick is to find a formula that contains more than one mushroom.
The best one that I found is  Mushroom Emperors by Mitake Mushrooms

2 Capsules contain

Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid)    10mg
Maitake         40mg
Maitake standardized extract (Maitake Pre D - fraction) 10mg
Reishi standardized extract     10mg
Royal Agaricus  40mg
White Jelly - Leaf      40mg
Cordyceps sinensis  -- Caterpillar Fungus (mycelium powder)      20mg
Hericum erinaceus  -- Lion's Mane       30mg

List price for 120 capsules is $29.95, MotherNature.Com has it for
$25.46. If VitaminShoppe has it and is still on 40% off, it will be
cheaper than that.  I sell it for  $22.16.

Recommended dose is 2 capsules twice a day between meals (the between
part is a bit of a problem).  Dr. S. told me that you usually
count a 1/4 - 1/3  human dose for a cat.

A company called Botanical Medicine has a liquid extract of maitake
and shiitake but it's alchohol. You would have to measure out a dose
and either let it sit out so that the alcohol would evaporate or put
it in a little hot water to help the alcohol evaporate.  It would be
easier to gibe between meals -- being a liquid.

So there you have it -- a quick course in mushrooms :-)

Joanne
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just read on petsimmune reishi mushrooms recommended-
and caution re echinacea-ie autoimmune
one can to be so careful-if you trigger the immune system into action
against itself-more stress etc-
tightwire walking
Bobby

So far in my research-lysine 500 might help-St. John's wort might also
help in retroviruses-a lovely person wrote me that she is giving her
kitty cat MGM3
have read about FVR nosode but also have read that the kitty cat
should have a strong constitution to give it-Snowy with his constant
battling doesn't yet have a strong constitution-have also read that
you shouldn't "play around" with nosodes unless you are working
directly with a vet or DN-
Snow is way too precious to be to endanger him
bobby
http://www.thensome.com/pethealth.htm

The herpes virus must be responsible for Snowy's appearing to be
constantly fighting off something-he goes a week maybe with feeling
good and then falls back into pattern of sluggishness,sleeping a lot
and having his little nose and his big eyes running-

have read on other forums,at least one cat who was diagnosed with
feline herpes that the kitty cat was a runt-
it is highly unusual for a cat to continue growing after one year old-
Snowy went from 3 1/2 to 6 3/4 pounds-probably another sign of
compromised immune system

when I adopted Snowy-I was told because he was such a pushed in
Persian, I would have to clean his eyes everyday and that as he grew
older his tear ducts would get bigger and the staining would decrease-
It didn't happen-when my vet first examined him,he immediately said
the heavy tear staining was from herpes virus he probably got from his
mother-
bobby
http://www.thensome.com/pethealth.htm

Snowy had three prolapses-after doing a lot of research-am now
convinced that his having herpes virus helped the stage from his
prolapses-antibiotics and the virus probably destroyed his beneficial
flora and caused chronic constipation-
now that he gets some cottage cheese every day-he poops usually
regularly-probiotics probably were the key for this problem
bobby