... I have 6 groups of "panguana" that represent 6 distinct past importations... I'm not talking about the "standard" yellow... I have those too... but they...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 2, 2012 3:04 am
I've seen it happen on mainland Bocas del Toro too...weird hybrid zone around Chiriqui Grande were the highways converge...the frogs were muddied and look...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 2, 2012 5:25 am
... What info or descriptions of the area led to this conclusion? I don't get that at all from the Dendrobates.org description. They say that even in areas...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 2, 2012 5:38 am
someone might want to contact this fellow and get the story behind this photo. http://www.bulbophyllum.com/jon/ranitomeyaLamasi030310b.jpg ...
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Todd Kelley
TDKelley@...
May 2, 2012 7:40 am
... And this gets back to my original point, that we don't truly know where the old Panguana morph originated from. We don't even know if it's accurate to ...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 2, 2012 8:27 am
There seems to be very little lumping going on (probably a product of the high prevalence of OCD in this crowd, include myself in that statement). There...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 2, 2012 8:36 am
Dale Bartram (Bertram?) wrote a great article about his trip to Guyane to collect the Saul/Dead Cow Mountain frog and described the crazy amount of morph....
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 2, 2012 4:36 pm
... It probably is...but I'm going to do it anyway since I've been thinking about it all morning. Take, for instance, the native Pacific chorus frog where I ...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 2, 2012 5:01 pm
And, to beat this discussion even further (since I seem to just be talking to myself at this point)...here is a response this morning in a similar conversation...
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Brent L. Brock
bbrock@...
May 2, 2012 5:44 pm
I'm dying to jump in on this conversation but swamped with work. There is a dichotomous decision tree in the ASN manual which was designed to work through...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 2, 2012 5:55 pm
Actually, I started that thread with a more expansive goal than to figure out whether or not the "Intermedius" or "Chazuta" lines from the Huallaga Canyon...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 2, 2012 6:00 pm
I brought up the albinism issue to point out that this history of population of bottle necks is part of the evolutionary history of these frogs, not as a...
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Tor Linbo
tlinbo@...
May 2, 2012 7:21 pm
... First there is no reason not to mix any of our frogs... their in little glass dead end boxes... and heck I know there are people that can't tell the...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 2, 2012 7:57 pm
... defined breeding group supplying all of them... then breed away... but these historical populations... they are hard to put into the modern place with out...
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Tor Linbo
tlinbo@...
May 2, 2012 9:57 pm
... Your not going to get out of this that easily! but it'll only work if they weren't mixed along the way. That's my real worry. That there is still too...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 2, 2012 10:08 pm
... worry. That there is still too much worry about in breeding... this leads to outcrossing... leading to hybrid vigor... overpopulation of hybrids... and...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 3, 2012 7:45 am
I think it should be possible with even current technology, to tell if populations were mixed in the past...if there is a baseline. There might be. "Baseline"...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 3, 2012 5:53 pm
I am on the outside looking in, with regards to the current state of the poison frog hobby, recently took a revived interest, surfed some internet forums and...
53055
Nish
nishifumi@...
May 6, 2012 8:45 am
Hey guys, I haven't been around too much and I seemed to have missed the whole sirensis lamasi thing. How are they lumping lamasi in with sirensis? If anyone...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 6, 2012 11:33 pm
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-04/13/fit-frogs <snip> Stretches of DNA generally accumulate changes over time, but the rate at which this occurs...
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Callie B. Carroll
callie@...
May 8, 2012 4:52 pm
I'll be going; my first Frog Day since Atlanta (or maybe Arizona – it's been a while). Hoping to sight the rare M. mirabello and catch (up with) other ...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 8, 2012 5:02 pm
I'll be there...and I can vouch for Mr. Mirabello as well. Ron ... _______________________________________________ Frognet Mailing List:...
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Steven Waldron
woodydbreeze@...
May 9, 2012 6:10 pm
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 17, 2012 2:54 am
For those interested, I just want to announce that MICROCOSM 2013 will be taking place March 22-23, 2013, in San Diego, CA: ...
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Christopher Miller
cmiller60626@...
May 17, 2012 4:59 am
Hi Everyone, I ordered a new poster of all *Ranitomeya* and *Andinobates* species and their most common color forms and local variations from a European...
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Christopher Miller
cmiller60626@...
May 17, 2012 12:21 pm
They are 50 x 70cm, printed on 200g paper. It was a collaborative work of the SDS and Jason Brown. ... _______________________________________________ Frognet...
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Ron Skylstad
ronsky@...
May 17, 2012 2:39 pm
I, however, can't ignore a glaring error: all the forms of Panguana sirensis are mixed together. That's just flat out irresponsible. Ron ... ...
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Christopher Miller
cmiller60626@...
May 17, 2012 2:43 pm
You should see all of their mutt babies on the back of the poster. ... _______________________________________________ Frognet Mailing List:...
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Tim Wright
Tim.Wright@...
May 21, 2012 10:17 am
Final reminder - a few places still available... A 5-day Amphibian Husbandry training course is being run 11-15 June 2012 by Durrell Wildlife Conservation...
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Shawn Heflick
sheflick@...
12:47 pm
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