I am closing this group as there have been no messages in over a month.  I'm
glad to have known so many caring people and I hope you
all continue to speak up and to pursue laws and protection for the dogs in your
own area and everywhere.
If not you, than who?  If not now, then when?
Penny

I sent it to her almost a month ago, but maybe you're right.
I will resend it to her after valentines day.




--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "Penny" <ddb_dunkirk@...> wrote:
>
> Its possible that Tammy is too busy with the "Valentine campaign" to
> attend to her emails properly right now.  Or maybe she didn't get your
> email.  Try her again after Valentines Day-she may be more available
then.
> Penny
>
> --- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "jlba58" <jlba58@> wrote:
> >
> > so my suggestion, although not an earth moving suggestion,
> > is that everyone who knows anyone with any websites, pet related
> > or not, ask them to post a link to Peppys memorial.
> >
> > I could only think of one website of someone that I sort of know
> > and she posted a link on her site.
> >
> > If you click on this link and then scroll all the way to the bottom
> > of the page you will see where she posted a link and wrote above
> > the link..... In Memory of Little Peppy-Please View the Story Here
> > http://www.suffolkcountyunleashed.com/available_for_adoption_2
> >
> > If peppys memorial page starts popping up all over the place that
> > will get the story out there. But it would have to be on alot of
> > websites for that to begin to happen.
> >
> > I have to say that I love the idea of PEPPYS LAW. Goodness I hope
> > some day that happens.
> >
> > Did anyone email that newspaper that wrote the article on peppy and
> > did the author respond ?
> >
> > Also, I personally am not disappointed in anyone here. Especially
> > the people that lived right up there near peppy. I know you guys
> > went above and beyond the call of duty. The people in charge
> > of interpreting the laws are the ones who let this happen.
> >
> > However, I am disappointed in the DDB organization.
> >
> > I have emailed Tamara or whatever her name is now, president
> > of DDB on many past occassions and she was always gracious
> > enough to respond. There were a couple of times we chatted
> > back and forth.
> >
> > I emailed her with the DDB email she had originally sent out
> > to tell people of peppy and in that email I told her that below
> > she had a story of a dog named peppy and I told her what happened
> > to Peppy. I also gave her the link to peppys memorial and said
> > that I would be most grateful if she would post that. I expressed
> > that I felt it important to show people what happens when action
> > is not taken because of the laws.
> >
> > For whatever reasons, she chose not to respond and not to post
> > any more about peppy.
> >
> > I can't seem to get past that. I want to say to her HEY LADY!!!!
> > YOU HAD 2 DDB REPS BUST THEIR BEHINDS for a long time and the
> > original DDB Rep busted her behind for YEARS on this case and
> > she should say something !!!
> >
> > I know I may not know everything about what communication may
> > or may not have happened between the DDB president and her reps
> > but its really bugging me that I have not seen her post anything
> > in her email newsletter that I get.
> >
> > Sorry to have gone on so long.
> >
> > If anyone knows if anyone emailed that newspaper could you post
> about it.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
>

Its possible that Tammy is too busy with the "Valentine campaign" to
attend to her emails properly right now.  Or maybe she didn't get your
email.  Try her again after Valentines Day-she may be more available then.
Penny

--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "jlba58" <jlba58@...> wrote:
>
> so my suggestion, although not an earth moving suggestion,
> is that everyone who knows anyone with any websites, pet related
> or not, ask them to post a link to Peppys memorial.
>
> I could only think of one website of someone that I sort of know
> and she posted a link on her site.
>
> If you click on this link and then scroll all the way to the bottom
> of the page you will see where she posted a link and wrote above
> the link..... In Memory of Little Peppy-Please View the Story Here
> http://www.suffolkcountyunleashed.com/available_for_adoption_2
>
> If peppys memorial page starts popping up all over the place that
> will get the story out there. But it would have to be on alot of
> websites for that to begin to happen.
>
> I have to say that I love the idea of PEPPYS LAW. Goodness I hope
> some day that happens.
>
> Did anyone email that newspaper that wrote the article on peppy and
> did the author respond ?
>
> Also, I personally am not disappointed in anyone here. Especially
> the people that lived right up there near peppy. I know you guys
> went above and beyond the call of duty. The people in charge
> of interpreting the laws are the ones who let this happen.
>
> However, I am disappointed in the DDB organization.
>
> I have emailed Tamara or whatever her name is now, president
> of DDB on many past occassions and she was always gracious
> enough to respond. There were a couple of times we chatted
> back and forth.
>
> I emailed her with the DDB email she had originally sent out
> to tell people of peppy and in that email I told her that below
> she had a story of a dog named peppy and I told her what happened
> to Peppy. I also gave her the link to peppys memorial and said
> that I would be most grateful if she would post that. I expressed
> that I felt it important to show people what happens when action
> is not taken because of the laws.
>
> For whatever reasons, she chose not to respond and not to post
> any more about peppy.
>
> I can't seem to get past that. I want to say to her HEY LADY!!!!
> YOU HAD 2 DDB REPS BUST THEIR BEHINDS for a long time and the
> original DDB Rep busted her behind for YEARS on this case and
> she should say something !!!
>
> I know I may not know everything about what communication may
> or may not have happened between the DDB president and her reps
> but its really bugging me that I have not seen her post anything
> in her email newsletter that I get.
>
> Sorry to have gone on so long.
>
> If anyone knows if anyone emailed that newspaper could you post
about it.
>
> thanks.
>

so my suggestion, although not an earth moving suggestion,
is that everyone who knows anyone with any websites, pet related
or not, ask them to post a link to Peppys memorial.

I could only think of one website of someone that I sort of know
and she posted a link on her site.

If you click on this link and then scroll all the way to the bottom
of the page you will see where she posted a link and wrote above
the link..... In Memory of Little Peppy-Please View the Story Here
http://www.suffolkcountyunleashed.com/available_for_adoption_2

If peppys memorial page starts popping up all over the place that
will get the story out there. But it would have to be on alot of
websites for that to begin to happen.

I have to say that I love the idea of PEPPYS LAW. Goodness I hope
some day that happens.

Did anyone email that newspaper that wrote the article on peppy and
did the author respond ?

Also, I personally am not disappointed in anyone here. Especially
the people that lived right up there near peppy. I know you guys
went above and beyond the call of duty. The people in charge
of interpreting the laws are the ones who let this happen.

However, I am disappointed in the DDB organization.

I have emailed Tamara or whatever her name is now, president
of DDB on many past occassions and she was always gracious
enough to respond. There were a couple of times we chatted
back and forth.

I emailed her with the DDB email she had originally sent out
to tell people of peppy and in that email I told her that below
she had a story of a dog named peppy and I told her what happened
to Peppy. I also gave her the link to peppys memorial and said
that I would be most grateful if she would post that. I expressed
that I felt it important to show people what happens when action
is not taken because of the laws.

For whatever reasons, she chose not to respond and not to post
any more about peppy.

I can't seem to get past that. I want to say to her HEY LADY!!!!
YOU HAD 2 DDB REPS BUST THEIR BEHINDS for a long time and the
original DDB Rep busted her behind for YEARS on this case and
she should say something !!!

I know I may not know everything about what communication may
or may not have happened between the DDB president and her reps
but its really bugging me that I have not seen her post anything
in her email newsletter that I get.

Sorry to have gone on so long.

If anyone knows if anyone emailed that newspaper could you post about it.

thanks.

Good idea!

g


--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, SmT <brokin2bdown2002@...> wrote:
>
>  I really think we should name any lobbying done for chaining and
penning law changes, any fundraising, in her name..any letters sent,
any corrospondance Issued, to any lawmaker should have a generic,
brief paragraph about what Peppy went thru, and ask others to do the
same let people see this same story everywhere, come up on as many
mails as possible!! so we feel she is getting some justice EVERYONE
add it as a quick, signature to all mail going out to any animal
lobbyists,lawmakers.legislature, etc..If anyone can think of a way to
condense her story Into something we could all use on certain mails
please offer it up!
>
>
> PETS ARE NOT DISPOSABLE!
>
>
> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Gail Clark <owlcaller@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Gail Clark <owlcaller@...>
> Subject: [help_Peppy] Re: has anyone been doing anything?
> To: help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 11:21 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What if we contributed to a memorial (newspaper) "sponsored" by
DDB?
> We could use generic wording and not use owner's info.
> Would DDB, as an organization, give it's approval? Do we need it?
>
> You'll have the other side of the argument:
> "Peppy rec'd good care...she lived to be 16 yrs old"
> Could negate the message we are attempting to send. Something to
> consider.
> g
>
> --- In help_Peppy@yahoogro ups.com, "Jess*e" <theREDdollyA@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > We had talked about an obituary, we had talked about a memorial
> service, etc. Has anyone
> > followed up on this?
> > Are we just giving up on Peppy in death as we had in life? I
still
> feel guilty that none of us did
> > anything to make a real difference in her life, I feel that we
> shirked our responsibility. I know
> > I didn't do all I could have, and I doubt anyone else did either.
> > We have to keep working, so no others end up like this.
> >
>

What if we contributed to a memorial (newspaper) "sponsored" by DDB?
We could use generic wording and not use owner's info.
Would DDB, as an organization, give it's approval?  Do we need it?

You'll have the other side of the argument:
"Peppy rec'd good care...she lived to be 16 yrs old"
Could negate the message we are attempting to send. Something to
consider.
g


--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "Jess*e" <theREDdollyA@...> wrote:
>
> We had talked about an obituary, we had talked about a memorial
service, etc. Has anyone
> followed up on this?
> Are we just giving up on Peppy in death as we had in life? I still
feel guilty that none of us did
> anything to make a real difference in her life, I feel that we
shirked our responsibility. I know
> I didn't do all I could have, and I doubt anyone else did either.
> We have to keep working, so no others end up like this.
>

I would have been happy to contribute to a memorial....
However, I'll share a few thoughts I've had, and my reasons for
not "pushing" this issue.

First, publicizing a photo of Peppy would have been very risky
*depending on* what text was added....too open to a lawsuit by her
(freaking) "owner". And remember, he might have cause, as he
was "LEGAL"! We'd certainly have wanted to SAY something.

Would it have been possible to post her photo with something
like "Don't let your dog die a sad,lonely death like this poor
soul"?...something kind of GENERIC?? Maybe.
(I'll try to look into this further, if possible).

We are not a bona finde group, so whoever went to the newspaper and
paid for the photo would most likely be resposible.

If we pictured a *photo only* of Peppy and said something like "in
memoriam"....who are we reaching??  Most readers would think she was
just someone's pet who died.

What message would we be sending??
Sure, maybe the "owner" and a few neighbors would get the point...but
HE refused to accept responsibility when she was alive!  What good
would it do?  Think he cares about the lonely existence she was
living..a PACK animal subjected to life alone in a cage?  I do not.
(the bastard)

Stealing her?  This is not 10 or 20 years ago...this is NOW....TODAY.
And the "setting" did not lend itself to such action..at all.
Volunteers for jail time, anyone? I could elaborate on this tactic
much further, but will not, for fear of "incriminating" myself :O

Just my thoughts.

Comments?

best to all,
gail







--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "Penny" <ddb_dunkirk@...> wrote:
>
> Seems to have just "died out".  Don't feel guilty, none of us really
> knew how to fix it and when the law says something's legal, there's
no
> legal remedy.  The only thing that could've been done is to steal
her
> and that was very risky so those who were nearby wouldn't take the
chance.
>
> The owner is the one who kept her that way and he is responsible for
> the life she lived.  Until we can change the law, all we can do it
> pressure and educate people to do the right thing.  If they choose
not
> to, we can't blame ourselves.  We tried.
>
> Penny
>
> --- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "Jess*e" <theREDdollyA@> wrote:
> >
> > We had talked about an obituary, we had talked about a memorial
> service, etc. Has anyone
> > followed up on this?
> > Are we just giving up on Peppy in death as we had in life? I still
> feel guilty that none of us did
> > anything to make a real difference in her life, I feel that we
> shirked our responsibility. I know
> > I didn't do all I could have, and I doubt anyone else did either.
> > We have to keep working, so no others end up like this.
> >
>

Seems to have just "died out".  Don't feel guilty, none of us really
knew how to fix it and when the law says something's legal, there's no
legal remedy.  The only thing that could've been done is to steal her
and that was very risky so those who were nearby wouldn't take the chance.

The owner is the one who kept her that way and he is responsible for
the life she lived.  Until we can change the law, all we can do it
pressure and educate people to do the right thing.  If they choose not
to, we can't blame ourselves.  We tried.

Penny

--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, "Jess*e" <theREDdollyA@...> wrote:
>
> We had talked about an obituary, we had talked about a memorial
service, etc. Has anyone
> followed up on this?
> Are we just giving up on Peppy in death as we had in life? I still
feel guilty that none of us did
> anything to make a real difference in her life, I feel that we
shirked our responsibility. I know
> I didn't do all I could have, and I doubt anyone else did either.
> We have to keep working, so no others end up like this.
>

We had talked about an obituary, we had talked about a memorial service, etc.
Has anyone
followed up on this?
Are we just giving up on Peppy in death as we had in life? I still feel guilty
that none of us did
anything to make a real difference in her life, I feel that we shirked our
responsibility. I know
I didn't do all I could have, and I doubt anyone else did either.
We have to keep working, so no others end up like this.

Not trying to be picky here, J....but I've been told on numerous
occasions that *straw* is much more preferable to hay...I've never
been sure of the reason though. You are absolutely right that it much
better than a blanket.
Anyone know this location or who we're dealing with....or who the
poster is?
gail


--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, theREDdollyA@... wrote:
>
> Is someone contacting this person? I don't want to flood them with
multiple people, but if one person is contacting them, please let
them know that hay would be much better insulation from the cold than
blankets. Blankets hold in water and ice and hay does not, it holds
in body heat.
> ~J*
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paulvincentolv@...
> To: help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 7:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [help_Peppy] Re: someone emailed me this last night
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Good Quality Doghouse needed
> Reply to: comm-996590113@...
> Date:
> 2009-01-17, 1:11PM
>
>
> Insulated doghouse needed immediately for outside dog. This dog is
living out
> on someone's porch in a plastic crate with a blanket inside. I
cannot get the
> people to give him to me so all I can do is get him a little
comfort. Please
> help me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Location: Dunkirk
>
>
> it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other
commercial
>   interests
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Original URL:http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pet/996590113.html
>
>
>
> This is listed under buffalo craigslist under pets on january 17
2009 This is
> not the same dog from gasport this is a different
> one........
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above.  See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
>

Do you have a link to the post you write about below?
g


--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, Paulvincentolv@... wrote:
>
> There is another dog that needs help in DUNKIRK NY. posted under
january 17
> 2009 craigslist. Subject line says good quality dog house needed.
This dog is
> living in a plastic crate with only a blanket! Please someone read
the post.
> can help tell this woman what to do? Dunkirk officials certainly
aren't
> going to help. I,m sure peppy is watching and is asking the people
to not  let
> this happen to another dog.....
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
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>

RE: youtube video

I haven't had a chance to work on it, I am very sick, flu.  I took a
look at youtube, registered and do not know how to put together a
slideshow.  I thought youtube would already have something set up
where you can add pictures, music and words, but apparently not.
Anyone familiar with making the aforementioned?



--- In help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com, Jan Gordon <huskie22003@...> wrote:
>
> HELLO ALL:
>  
> Any more news on the vigil?  please review the attached and give me
your input. I also sent a link from the   www-in-memory-of-
pets.com  site to the NY Post.  Who knows if anything will come of
that. 
>  
> Can someone fill me in on who has worked on the animal cruelty laws
in NY and what has happened so far?  my personal e-mail is: 
huskie22003@...  let us put a comprehensive account of what needs to
happen so others can follow through easily.    
>  
> How is the video coming along?  I guess it is U Tube.
>  
> Have a good evening.  Let's connect again on Sunday and those that
are working on projects can give an update.
>  
> Hope I do not sound bossy. I do not intend to, it is the only way I
can keep track of things for me. Getting Older!
>  
> Jan
> Peppy in our heats always...
>  
>  
>
> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, theREDdollyA@... <theREDdollyA@...> wrote:
>
> From: theREDdollyA@... <theREDdollyA@...>
> Subject: Re: [help_Peppy] contacting the NY Post
> To: help_Peppy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 5:35 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I can't find a way to directly contact Julia Szabo, not even on
goodsearch. Help?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jlba58 <jlba58@yahoo. com>
> To: help_Peppy@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 9:27 pm
> Subject: [help_Peppy] contacting the NY Post
>
>
>
>
>
>
> so does someone want to contact the person at the NY Post
> who wrote the article up on Peppy to give them the update
> on what has happened. Maybe the writer will do a follow up
> if we ask them to ?
>
> What do you think of that idea ?
>
> Here is a link to the article..... ........
>
> http://www.nypost. com/seven/ 10192008/ entertainment/ doghouse_
blues_134178. htm
>
>
>
>
>
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