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Re: [k9sepanx] Re: Ellwood & Anxiety

I would agree, let's move this to K9SA and then continue the discussion.  It sounds like Vivien has actually had Ellwood to the vet quite a bit, but there has to be something else at play here.  It makes me think that what needs to be dealt with is the underlying problem (what is that?) rather than the symptom (the loose bum).

On 5/29/09, Mary Behme <maryannbehme@...> wrote:


Hi Vivien
Oh my....such a big dog with tummy troubles.  I agree with everyone that a complete vet check is required.  And see if the vet can give you some pancreatic enzymes to add to the food - I have to use this on my dog with a serious condition -EPI- it helps with digestion.  It is expensive and must be mixed in the food and sit for at least 20 minutes before serving but it may get his loose stools under control.
 
Also, consider joining our more active group- Many of us moved to that group -

Mary Ann (Bits - 14 year old deaf, partially blind Chihuahua with S/A adopted 4/2006- passed 1/2008)


From: vstraume <vstraume@...>
To: k9sepanx@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:05:45 AM
Subject: [k9sepanx] Re: Ellwood & Anxiety

Thank you for your ideas. I have taken Ellwood to his regular vet and also to a homiopathic vet who wanted to get him on a raw diet, which I couldn't handle. He's had all the tests regarding his stomach. He also had a liver lobectomy, spleenectomy and a gastioplasty all last year. It was a very rough year for him (and my wallet).

When I first adopted him in June 2005, he refused to eat for weeks and weeks and was depressed, which prompted the visits to the vets. They found nothing obviously wrong and by the time we started discussing tests, he started eating and getting out of his depression. I made a huge mistake in September 2005 by boarding him for 5 days and this started his diarreah issues, which was a battle for a year and a half after this boarding. He had a ton of tests and there is nothing physically wrong with him, but when he gets diarrhea, we found that tylan powder works much better for him than metronitazole. The vet also prescribed him xanex. Unfortunately, the tylan powder is awful tasting and being 150lb he has to take quite a bit, which is a chore to get it down.

When I left to go away, which wasn't often, I had a dogwalker who I had hired when I first got Ellwood. She loved him and he loved her, but he still refused to eat even when she stayed, but the diarreah was not an issue when he was with her. She has moved to Florida and now I'm at odds with what to do with him. He refuses to eat and also gets diarreah if I leave him at the boarders or at home. He's a very laid back sweet dog, but he stresses out when I leave him. This is purely behavioral and if anyone has any ideas how to deal with his behavior, that would be great.

Thanks

Vivien

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Hi everyone, I am a new member and I was thrilled to find a group that deals with separation anxiety. I adopted a Saint Bernard 4 years ago from the rescue and...
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Hi Vivien, You say you got him 4 years ago... did the diarrhea just start recently? If you haven't already, definitely go to the vet and explain the situation....
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I agree with Vivien. Def start with the vet and cover all the basics. Also ask the vet if she knows any specialists in behavior. If you live near a veterinary...
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Thank you for your ideas. I have taken Ellwood to his regular vet and also to a homiopathic vet who wanted to get him on a raw diet, which I couldn't handle....
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Hi Vivien Oh my....such a big dog with tummy troubles.  I agree with everyone that a complete vet check is required.  And see if the vet can give you some...
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I would agree, let's move this to K9SA and then continue the discussion. It sounds like Vivien has actually had Ellwood to the vet quite a bit, but there has...
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Vivien, I have a 16 month old mini aussie with separation anxiety. I bought him from a breeder at 4 1/2 months old. She misled me about his temperament, and...
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