3 indicted for smuggling Chinese honey

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November 11, 2011
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Dear Peter Borst ,

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Pushing the

Adoption of State

Honey Standards
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In a letter from the FDA dated Oct. 14, 2011, the agency has once again, denied the major industry groups petition for a national standard. Was anyone surprised by the news? No. Since 2006 when the Petition was submitted, the FDA has been courteous, almost to a fault, always sending hints that �this year�� beekeepers and honey packers would get their standard, and every year, the answer was the same; no�

Dedicated beekeepers across the U.S.� gave up on the FDA in 2007 and decided to do for themselves what their government would not do for them; they started campaigning for state-adopted honey standards. Florida was the first, followed soon after by California. Since that time Wisconsin, Utah, and the most recent state, Nebraska, now have standards of identity for honey (North Carolina recently adopted an impressive state association standard).

What�s even more impressive are the number of states which have the issue before their legislature or departments of agriculture:� Texas, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Colorado, Missouri, New York, Montana, Maryland, Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee.� Beekeepers in Georgia, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts are working to begin discussions in their state associations or farm bureaus.

As every state legislative session convenes, more and more of these states will get a honey standard.� Do these dedicated men and women believe their state honey standard will assure that never again will a consumer end up purchasing a jar of adulterated honey? No. The mantra of the FDR years, �The government is your friend; the government will protect you� is no more. We live in a global economy where neither� the federal� nor state governments will ever again, or at least not for a long time, be able to protect their citizenry from those who put our food supply at risk or sell our consumers deceptive products, or in the case of honey, adulterated junk.

Beekeepers who lick their wounds in private and say �things will be better next year� will end up with next year no better than the first. Fortunately, staunch supporters of honey standards have refused to be defeated. Sue Daly in Ohio, Pat Bono in New York, Byron Rice in Maryland and many other hard-working, good ole stubborn beekeepers know that having a state honey standard is better than having nothing at all.

With so many states working on standards, it has been hard maintaining an accurate list of what states are involved in the initiative and who is spearheading the project. The more information I have about what is happening in a state, the better I can lend support and make sure all beekeepers in a state are aware of each other�s work.� I would appreciate it very much if you could both contact me by phone or email, and let me know how goes the fight. The only hope left for the preservation of honey lies in the adoption of state standards of identity for honey.

Nancy Gentry
Spokesperson for state adoption of honey standards
Email:�farmbees@...
Ph: 386-684-3433

#394

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:18 am
Subject: ABJ Extra - Newsletter Nov 11, 2011 #2 He's Not Afraid of Bees

hosey1924

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November 11, 2011
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Dear Peter Borst ,

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He's Not Afraid of Bees

by Kathy Keatley Garvey
Dept. of Entomology
UC - Davis

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DAVIS--Apiculturist Norman Gary, emeritus professor of entomology at UC Davis, and a professional bee wrangler, worked behind the scenes in a new Animal Planet program, �My Extreme Animal Phobia,� scheduled to be broadcast Friday, Nov. 11 at 10 p.m. on the Animal Planet Channel (Sacramento area listing).

�It is a story about a man who is extremely afraid of bees,� Gary said. �He is treated successfully by various exposures to bees and consultation with Sacramento psychologist Robin Zazio.�

Although Gary played a central role in the treatment of the man�s phobia, he may or may not appear in the program.

But the bees he trained will.

Some of the filming was done at the Harry H. Laidlaw Jr. Honey Bee Research Facility on Bee Biology Road, UC Davis. Staff research associate Elizabeth Frost provided a bee observation hive. The producers also asked to use some macro photos of honey bees taken by communications specialist Kathy Keatley Garvey. They were shown to the man with from the phobia.

Consult local TV Guide listings for detailed information. According to TV Guide, the program will be repeated on Saturday, Nov. 12 at 5 a.m. and on Wednesday, Nov. 16 at 10 p.m.

Gary also did bee wrangling for another episode of Fear Factor, which enters a new season in December.

Gary is the author of a newly published book on beginning beekeeping titled �Honey Bee Hobbyist: The Care and Keeping of Bees.�

�Keeping bees is far more challenging than caring for common pets,� said Gary, who retired in 1994 from UC Davis after a 32-year academic career.

Gary trains bees to perform action scenes in movies, television shows and commercials. His credits over the last 35 years include 18 films, including �Fried Green Tomatoes�; more than 70 television shows, including the Johnny Carson and Jay Leno shows; six commercials, and hundreds of live Thriller Bee Shows in the Western states.

He once trained bees to fly into his mouth to collect food from a small sponge saturated with his patented artificial nectar.� He holds the Guinness World record (109 bees inside his closed mouth for 10 seconds) for the stunt.

#395

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:37 pm
Subject: [FLBC] Empire State Honey Producers

hosey1924

Hello-

�� I thought I'd keep the NY bee clubs updated on a few issues. Hopefully a new & improved, and comprehensive website by the Empire State Honey Producers Association (eshpa.org) will be forthcoming. I have attached the latest newsletter from eshpa.

�� 1) The eshpa annual meeting is this Friday & Saturday in Syracuse. Friday's keynote speaker is Maryann Frazier. You do not need to be a member to attend, but there is a small fee.� Friday afternoon is the business meeting, where issues are talked about and voted on. You do have to be a member (20.00 membership fee) to vote. Seriously, all regions of New York State should be represented at the afternoon session. I stress the importance of being involved & informed by attending this meeting.

�� In September a recently revived selected committee, Apiary Industry Advisory Committee (photo in the newsletter) met with NY Ag & Markets Commissioner Aubertine to decide the fate of beekeeping in NY. The same old chestnuts were presented, such as Mandatory Hive Registration, the old style inspection program, and a new one- a state fee on honey!, this is called a market order, which is fees imposed on an industry to fund initiatives.

�� Why the President of ESHPA was not included in the committee is questionable.

2)� ESHPA was awarded a 3 year grant from the USDA to conduct training sessions on honey bee disease identification, treatment & prevention. There will be 2 tiers: Tier I is for experienced beekeepers to attend an intensive hands-on, skills oriented workshop. The workshops will be 2 days & 1 evening at 3 locations in NY. The Tier I beekeepers will then teach their local clubs or other groups such as CSA's (Tier II). Mentorship and some materials will be provided. Record keeping is required to assess the efficacy of the workshops. There will also be some collaboration with the BeeInformed.org team, which also has a grant to survey beekeepers nationwide on bee health.

�� I will be sending out a survey to gather some input from the NY bee clubs to determine interest, scheduling, experience, etc.

� 3)� The FDA has refused to enact a national definition of honey; realistically, we may not have one for perhaps a decade, if ever.

I continue to support ESHPA's proposed version of a technical definition-- it is almost identical to what California has been using for 2 years. New York should at least measure up to California's honey standard.

�� Many NY bee clubs have already written letters of support for Bills S3321/A5164; if your club has not done so, I urge you to write a letter of support or contact your legislator as a private citizen. Please see RochesterHoney.com, there is a lot of info there.

�� 4)� In anticipation of an new eshpa website, I hope the various clubs can share their events, photos, essays, and perhaps volunteer to host a page on a particular topic. Suggestions welcomed!

� Contact me with any questions, concerns.

�� Thank you!

�� Pat Bono, Rochester, 585-820-6619, RochesterHoney@...

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#396

From: "Mindy Bradley" <mlbeefarms@...>
Date: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:17 am
Subject: Care packages to our troops

mlbeefarms

Hi everyone its Mindy,
  Im starting to do carepackages for some of our troops overseas. Including one
boy I graduated high school with a year a half ago. he will be deployed in two
weeks.
  I wondered if anyone would like to contribute to the cause and either donate
some money, or items, i can collect any at out december meeting.
SOme ideas are beef jerky, individual drink mix, gatorade mix, trail mix, slin
jim's, disposable cameras, envelopes, sunglasses, face cream, foot powder, hand
sanitizer, body wash, loofas, disposable razors, sunscreen, remember its
afgahnistan.
   I am going to be donating honey sticks, honey drops, and my lip balm.
email me if you have any questions, Thanks!

#397

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:53 pm
Subject: [FLBC] No words for this!

hosey1924

http://www.wimp.com/beeshouse/

- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Peter Loring Borst
128 Lieb Road
Spencer, NY �14883
peterloringborst.com

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#398

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:32 am
Subject: [FLBC] Hive Quilt

hosey1924

www.honeybeesuite.com/how-to-make-a-moisture-quilt-for-a-langstroth-hive

Check out this web site.�My husband and I made them for hives and they really work, not only to keep the hive dry but it also holds in the heat.

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Vickie Pierce

vfpi@...

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#399

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:48 pm
Subject: Kirsten Traynor's new book on honey

hosey1924

Hi,

I had the pleasure to listen to Kirsten speak at the First Honey and Health Symposium in 2008 held in Sacramento. � She delivered an artistic and poetic summary of honey and health in a presentation she entitled �A Historical Romp through Legends, Lore and Astonishing Facts�. Kirsten documented man�s encounter with honey throughout 15,000 years of recorded history was extremely interesting.� I tried to have her come to one of our fall meeting, however she went off to grad school in Arizona.

For those of us who are interested in the health benefit and history of honey, I think that Kirsten's book is a must four library.

Greg Kalicin, President of Empire State Honey Producers Association (ESHPA)

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Subject:	Kirsten Traynor's new book on honey
Date:	Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:09:36 +0100
From:	Kirsten Traynor <kirsten@...>
To:	Greg Kalicin <greg@...>

Dear Greg,

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I hope this email finds you well and happy. I�ve finally completed my book on the scientifically demonstrated benefits of honey and have included more info below. Feel free to share it with others who might be interested or include it in your club newsletter.

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Doctors Discover an Ancient Solution to
Modern Health Care Woes -- Honey

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clip_image002 The health care debate rages in the halls of congress and across the American dinner table as we struggle to rein in the cost of medical care. In her new book Two Million Blossoms: Discovering the Medicinal Benefits of Honey, Kirsten S. Traynor, M.S. details how doctors have rediscovered a timeless and economical remedy used effectively since the Egyptian pharaoh�s physicians.

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New scientific findings from around the world demonstrate honey heals chronic wounds, halts antibiotic-resistant superbugs, eliminates tissue scarring, reduces brain damage, improves memory and minimizes the harmful side-effects of cancer treatments. An easily assimilated antioxidant, honey proves more effective than over-the-counter cough medicines, acts as a natural laxative, stimulates good intestinal flora, and alleviates spring allergies.

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As conventional therapies increasingly failed to clear infected wounds, doctors started applying honey dressings with astounding success. Chronic wounds that refused to mend for many years using standard medical care costing over $300,000 suddenly started healing when treated with 43� of honey and gauze, according to Dr. Jennifer Eddy, a family practitioner at Health�s Family Medicine Clinic in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

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In 2007, the FDA approved medical honey for diabetic foot ulcers, leg ulcers, pressure ulcers, 1st and 2nd degree burns, donor sites, traumatic wounds and surgical wounds. Two Million Blossoms lets you discover the remarkable healing properties of honey.

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�This delightful book Kirsten has written is the book I wanted to write myself twenty years ago,� world renowned honey researcher Dr. Peter Molan, Director of the Waikato Honey Research Unit in New Zealand writes in the foreword. Honey can �prevent people from suffering needlessly from ailments that detract from their quality of life.� Two Million Blossoms, a 272 page paperback, is divided into four sections that cover the history of honey, honey for human health, honey for wound healing and honey for pet care; it is available through our webstore at http://tinyurl.com/cyejf6d, Dadant, and Amazon.com.

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The book is an excellent resource to have available for sale for your honey customers, as the the attractive cover and the detailed contents highlighting the many health benefits of honey makes a great talking point. Wholesale pricing is available to any individual or organization purchasing 10 or more copies. For wholesale orders, please contact us at kirsten@....

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Please feel free to share with others.

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Thanks,

Kirsten & Michael Traynor

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About the Author: Kirsten Traynor is currently pursuing a PhD in biology at Arizona State University. Much of the research in this book was gathered while she was a German Chancellor Fellow of the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation at the Institute of Bee Research in Celle, Germany. Currently she is in Avignon, France on a Fulbright Fellowship to study how to improve honey bee health.

#400

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Sun Dec 4, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: Voluntary withdrawal of Imidacloprid

hosey1924

http://pierreterre.com/blog/bee-killing-pesticide-imidacloprid-voluntarily-withdrawn-almonds

Hi,

This was sent to me by Paul in Ontario.� Imidacloprid is a neonicotinoid systemic pesticide.

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Subject:	Voluntary withdrawl of imidachloprid
Date:	Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:04:45 -0500
From:	Kozak, Paul (OMAFRA) <Paul.Kozak@...>

FYI

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Paul Kozak

Provincial Apiarist

Ontario Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs

Foods of Plant Origin

Food Inspection Branch

1 Stone Road West, 5^th Floor NW

Guelph ON N1G 4Y2

Tel:� 519 826-3595 or 1-888-466-2372 Ext. 63595�

Fax:� 519 826-4375

Email:� Paul.Kozak@...

#401

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:15 am
Subject: [FLBC] (no subject)

hosey1924

3 indicted for smuggling Chinese honey

The Associated Press

Published: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 6:01 a.m.

Last Modified: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 2:01 a.m.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A federal grand jury has indicted three men for smuggling Chinese honey into the United States.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Jacksonville announced Tuesday that the men are accused of mislabeling the honey as "rice fructose" to avoid more than $1 million in duties owed to the federal government.

The suspects are accused of mislabeling 123 containers, each containing 64 barrels of honey from China. After they passed through customs, the containers were relabeled as "amber honey" for sale to domestic purchasers. The honey was seized from 11 U.S. entry ports.

If convicted, the three men could face up to 20 years in prison.

#402

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:41 pm
Subject: Heads-up!

hosey1924

There will be a Mid York Beekeeping meeting on Tuesday December 13th.....more info will be following from Conrad.

Enjoy the winter weather.

L.

#403

From: midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:26 am
Subject: Regular Club Meeting, 12/13/2011, 7:30 pm

midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com

Reminder from:		midyorkbeekeepers Yahoo! Group

Title:		Regular Club Meeting

Date:		Tuesday December 13, 2011
Time:		7:30 pm - 10:00 pm
Repeats:		This event repeats every other month on the second Tuesday.
Location:		Cornell Cooperative Extension, Oriskany

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#404

From: "Steve" <drsburton1@...>
Date: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:01 pm
Subject: Mice Cookies

drsburton1

Hello All,

Well the curiosity is getting to me! Those little mouse-shaped cookies were the
cutest things, plus they tasted really good. Who is the delightful little elf
that made that wonderful creation? And will they share the recipe? They were the
talk of the meeting. Thanks.

Steve

#405

From: Chris Miazga <miazga66@...>
Date: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:06 pm
Subject: Fwd: Letters From an American Farmer :

yelohare

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From: "Matt Nelson" <sdeitrich@...>
Date: Dec 14, 2011 3:34 PM
Subject: Letters From an American Farmer :
To: "chris Miazga" <miazga66@...>

"It is my bees, however, which afford me the most pleasing and extensive themes; let me look at them when I will, their government, their industry, their quarrels, their passions, always present me with something new; for which reason, when weary with labour, my common place of rest is under my locust-tree, close by my bee-house. By their movements I can predict the weather, and can tell the day of their swarming; but the most difficult point is, when on the wing, to know whether they want to go to the woods or not. If they have previously pitched in some hollow trees, it is not the allurements of salt and water, of fennel, hickory leaves, etc., nor the finest box, that can induce them to stay; they will prefer those rude, rough habitations to the best polished mahogany hive. When that is the case with mine, I seldom thwart their inclinations; it is in freedom that they work: were I to confine them, they would dwindle away and quit their labour. In such excursions we only part for a while; I am generally sure to find them again the following fall. This elopement of theirs only adds to my recreations; I know how to deceive even their superlative instinct; nor do I fear losing them, though eighteen miles from my house, and lodged in the most lofty trees, in the most impervious of our forests. I once took you along with me in one of these rambles, and yet you insist on my repeating the detail of our operations: it brings back into my mind many of the useful and entertaining reflections with which you so happily beguiled our tedious hours. "
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"After I have done sowing, by way of recreation, I prepare for a week's jaunt in the woods, not to hunt either the deer or the bears, as my neighbours do, but to catch the more harmless bees. I cannot boast that this chase is so noble, or so famous among men, but I find it less fatiguing, and full as profitable; and the last consideration is the only one that moves me. I take with me my dog, as a companion, for he is useless as to this game; my gun, for no man you know ought to enter the woods without one; my blanket, some provisions, some wax, vermilion, honey, and a small pocket compass. With these implements I proceed to such woods as are at a considerable distance from any settlements. I carefully examine whether they abound with large trees, if so, I make a small fire on some flat stones, in a convenient place; on the fire I put some wax; close by this fire, on another stone, I drop honey in distinct drops, which I surround with small quantities of vermilion, laid on the stone; and then I retire carefully to watch whether any bees appear. If there are any in that neighbourhood, I rest assured that the smell of the burnt wax will unavoidably attract them; they will soon find out the honey, for they are fond of preying on that which is not their own; and in their approach they will necessarily tinge themselves with some particles of vermilion, which will adhere long to their bodies. I next fix my compass, to find out their course, which they keep invariably straight, when they are returning home loaded. By the assistance of my watch, I observe how long those are returning which are marked with vermilion. Thus possessed of the course, and, in some measure, of the distance, which I can easily guess at, I follow the first, and seldom fail of coming to the tree where those republics are lodged. I then mark it; and thus, with patience, I have found out sometimes eleven swarms in a season; and it is inconceivable what a quantity of honey these trees will sometimes afford. It entirely depends on the size of the hollow, as the bees never rest nor swarm till it is all replenished; for like men, it is only the want of room that induces them to quit the maternal hive. Next I proceed to some of the nearest settlements, where I procure proper assistance to cut down the trees, get all my prey secured, and then return home with my prize. The first bees I ever procured were thus found in the woods, by mere accident; for at that time I had no kind of skill in this method of tracing them. The body of the tree being perfectly sound, they had lodged themselves in the hollow of one of its principal limbs, which I carefully sawed off and with a good deal of labour and industry brought it home, where I fixed it up again in the same position in which I found it growing. This was in April; I had five swarms that year, and they have been ever since very prosperous. This business generally takes up a week of my time every fall, and to me it is a week of solitary ease and relaxation. "
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http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/letter_02.asp

#406

From: "Steve" <drsburton1@...>
Date: Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:35 am
Subject: Welcome New Beekeeping Students

drsburton1

Hello All,

Hello and Welcome to all the new beekeeping students. Feel free to post
questions and comments to get input from other members.

Hello regular club members. Thank you all in advance for your input and help in
conducting out 2012 Beginner Beekeeping Course. We couldn't do this with out
everyone's help. I've posted a class syllabus in the file section as well as
some other informational files. I encourage all to come to the classes and add
the their real-world beekeeping experience and stories. It's always fun,
interesting, and educational. I really encourage last years students to attend.
You're now "experts" and can give our newest members a fresh perspective on your
new experiences with bees.

As of today, we have 30 of the 50 seats spoken for. If you know anyone that
might be interested in the class, just have them drop me a note at
drsburton1@... and I'll add them to our list.

To all, Merry Christmas and Happy "Beekeeping" Year!

Thanks again,
Steve Burton

#407

From: "Dwayne" <swampratman2000@...>
Date: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:06 am
Subject: Marry Xmass and happy holidays

swampratman2000

Marry Xmass and Happy Holidays to all the members and welcome to the new
mambers.hope everyone has a great holiday

   Dwayme.S


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#408

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:37 am
Subject: Re: Marry Xmass and happy holidays

hosey1924

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Dwayne <swampratman2000@...> wrote:

�

Marry Xmass and Happy Holidays to all the members and welcome to the new mambers.hope everyone has a great holiday

Dwayme.S

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#409

From: "Steve" <drsburton1@...>
Date: Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:22 am
Subject: Beekeeping Course

drsburton1

I was hoping a few of the regular members could come to the beekeeping course a
little early to help set up tables and take attendance. Appreciate the help.

Current count has us at 40 students. If anyone knows of others that may be
interested, we have only 10 more seats available. Have them contact me ASAP and
I'll send them the info packet we've put together for new beekeepers.

I always come away from these classes learning something new myself, so I
encourage any regular members to attend as many of the classes as they can. The
Syllabus and Schedule are posted in the "Files" section.

Thanks, Steve Burton

#410

From: Linda Walters <LMNWALTERS@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2012 12:38 am
Subject: Article that is not pleasant!

hosey1924

I saw an article on bees,� I thought you might be interested in.
http://news.yahoo.com/zombie-fly-parasite-killing-honeybees-230200867.html

#411

From: "Dwayne" <swampratman2000@...>
Date: Sun Jan 8, 2012 4:09 am
Subject: Steve

swampratman2000

Steve just sent you an email with a person for the class let me know if you got
it.it may not have gone through

  Dwayne.S

#412

From: "joncny44" <joncny44@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:49 pm
Subject: Bee Class Jan 16

joncny44

Hello all--newbie here, just wanted to say hello, will be at the Cornell class
on Jan 16th...hopefully will have my first hive this year on my farm!

#413

From: "Steve" <drsburton1@...>
Date: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Steve

drsburton1

Got it Dwayne. Thanks.

--- In midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <swampratman2000@...> wrote:
>
> Steve just sent you an email with a person for the class let me know if you
got it.it may not have gone through
>
>  Dwayne.S
>

#414

From: midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:58 pm
Subject: Beginner Beekeeping Course, 1/16/2012, 7:00 pm

midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com

Reminder from:		midyorkbeekeepers Yahoo! Group

Title:		Beginner Beekeeping Course

Date:		Monday January 16, 2012
Time:		7:00 pm - 9:15 pm
Repeats:		This event repeats every month on the third Monday until Monday May 21, 2012.
Location:		Cornell Cooperative Extension, Oriskany, NY
Notes:		Jan 16 - Introduction Anatomy of a Bee Hive Feb 20 - Honey Bees Setting up Your First Hive Mar 19 - Bee Plants Winterizing Your Hives Apr 16 - Swarms Cut-Outs May 21 - Nucs Tricks of the Trade

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#415

From: "Theodore" <tfox3_civile@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:30 pm
Subject: Beekeeper course

tfox3_civile

To Whom It May Concern,
I came to the meeting in October and signed up for the course and to become a
member. I was going to pay for both at the meeting in December, but was unable
to attend the meeting. Can I still come to the course tomorrow and pay for both?
Thank you.

Ted Fox

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#416

From: "Dwayne" <swampratman2000@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: Beekeeper course

swampratman2000

Ted i see your name on the list so sure you can come and pay at the class.see
you at the class

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#417

From: Jim Mora <jmora325@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:31 am
Subject: Re: Beekeeper course

jmora325

yes you can no problem

From: Theodore <tfox3_civile@...>
To: midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: [midyorkbeekeepers] Beekeeper course

To Whom It May Concern,
I came to the meeting in October and signed up for the course and to become a member. I was going to pay for both at the meeting in December, but was unable to attend the meeting. Can I still come to the course tomorrow and pay for both? Thank you.

Ted Fox

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#418

From: "Jim Morawiec" <jmora325@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:55 am
Subject: New beekeeping class

jmora325

I just want to thank everyone who came and helped last night from setting up
and picking up I think everything went well we had 42 new members join. The club
is growing.

#419

From: "Geoff" <bluehorizon5132@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:16 pm
Subject: A couple of questions

bluehorizon5132

Hi everyone,

I'm in the current beekeeping course and I have a hundred questions already! But I'll only bore you with a couple for now. I'm going to build my hives and I'm thinking of using 3 medium supers for the hive body/brood chamber. Anyone in the club have experience doing it this way and was it productive? Secondly, I ordered 1 nuc from Bill (but after what I heard in class, I will now be starting 2 hives to compare progress) and I'm wondering if the nuc frames will fit into the medium super or will I need to use deeps. Also Bill, if your out there listening I'd like to order a second nuc.

Thanks for the help, Geoff Horan

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#420

From: "schieferstinej" <kohlmeyer@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: A couple of questions

schieferstinej

i think bill only uses deeps for his nucs (sorry he is not on the website) you
can use mediums for the brood chamber but having at least a few deeps on hand is
a good idea because they are more standard for this area. also if you go with
just mediums you may want to consider going into the winter with 4 since some of
us in the group, myself included like to get up to 2 deeps and 1 medium to help
ensure plentiful honey stores for the winter.
hope this helps
jake
--- In midyorkbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com, "Geoff" <bluehorizon5132@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I'm in the current beekeeping course and I have a hundred
> questions already!  But I'll only bore you with a couple for now.  I'm
> going to build my hives and I'm thinking of using 3 medium supers for
> the hive body/brood chamber.  Anyone in the club have experience doing
> it this way and was it productive?  Secondly, I ordered 1 nuc from Bill
> (but after what I heard in class, I will now be starting 2 hives to
> compare progress) and I'm wondering if the nuc frames will fit into the
> medium super or will I need to use deeps.  Also Bill, if your out there
> listening I'd like to order a second nuc.  [:-s]   Thanks for the help,
> Geoff Horan
>

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From: "John Hawthorne" <john_hawthorne@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:20 pm
Subject: RE: Re: A couple of questions

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