Hi Everyone,

I will be leaving Eden, Utah about November 28 heading to Edgar Springs,
Missouri and then Fredericktown, Ohio.  I have lots of space available.

Best regards,

Russ

Russ Edgar
russ@...
740 485 0195

Hello,
I am selling my small St. Croix flock.  I have 2 unrelated yearling rams, 4
april ewe lambs and their dams: 06 ewe and 07 ewe.  All are purebred w/papers. 
I live in Northern California 1 hour north of San Francisco.  I am not set up to
deliver so you must come to me.  Price upon serious inquiry.  These are all Swan
heavy ewes 1 ram is Swan/Harris and the other is Churchill/Harris

Thank you for your time
Kimberly Hatcher

I am leaving Eden, Utah on November 27.  I have lots of room available going
east.

Best regards,

Russ


Edgar Ranch
Russ Edgar
16850 North Liberty Road
Fredericktown, Ohio 43019
Russ 740-485-0195
http://www.edgarsheepandgoats.com
http://www.edgarranch.com
russ@...

BB, son of Thunderbolt, grandson of Skyebolt is available. He's 25% Anatolian x
75% Great Pyrenees and acts more determined like the Anatolian. He is my alpha
sire. BB's about 2.5 yrs old and quite large, having a medium length, creamish
white winter coat. He needs another farm where there's a female LGD to support.
His present mate has been spoken for. He prefers goats but I have seen him
guarding the ewes and lambs. He doesn't like the rams, probably because they
steal his food despite his protests. Used to domestic cats, goats, sheep,
doesn't care much for cattle or other dogs. Not used to children. Have photos.
Contact me at cell# 254-780-6342.
I email from the library which closes soon.
Sharon
Holland, TX....1 hr S of Waco or 1 hr N of Austin east a bit from I-35.

Hi Susan and others,

The 2009 sale is over and it went well.  The quality of the sheep was very high and they were in perfect condition.   We didn't have any St. Croix consigned this year which was too bad.  I did get phone calls from potential buyers asking if we would have Dorpers, and I got 2 phone calls asking if there were going to be any Wiltshire horns at the sale.  

One of the best uses of a breeding stock sale (from a sellers standpoint) is that a buyer can come and purchase animals from multiple flocks and increase genetic diversity immediately.  It is also very, very helpful for pure-bred producers to be able to purchase new rams, or new ewes for their own flocks.  Sales such as this are intended to assist the various hair breeds.  Buyers benefit from having one place to go for genetic diversity, and sellers benefit from having a forum to talk up their breed and enducate people as to the advantages of their breed. 

It is also a perfect place to bring a few animals to sell that have really produced well for a farm.  By knowing which traits a ram or ewe is producing, those animals can be sold to other farms that are looking for those specific traits.  

We will be having the sale agian next year  October 23, 2010.  I hope the rain holds off next year!

I hope that some of you will consider bringing animals, and also coming to buy in 2010.

Cadie Pruss

Ewe Win

www.hairsheepsale.blogspot.com

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:03:12 -0500 (CDT), jan2san wrote
>  
>
> Morning!
>  
> Due to death in family, illness, and surgery,  Sis and I were unable to attend the sale.  Wish to ask how it went?  If all is better next year - I am sure hoping for a better year - we will be there to buy and sell.
>  
> Appreciate!
>  
> susan
> millstone farm
>
> Sep 8, 2009 03:08:58 PM, origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>

 
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> October 24, 2009 will be the Annual Mid-Atlantic Hair Sheep Sale for
> breeding sheep only. It will be held in Reedsville, PA at the Mifflin
> County Fairgrounds. Reedsville, PA is almost dead center of the state of PA-
> near State College (home of Penn State). The fairgrounds are just off of
> Rt. 322.
>
> Our last sale had sheep from 14 farms and 7 states. We had Katahdins, St. Croix and Dorpers.
>
> Directions, hotel info and other helpful information can be found at www.hairsheepsale.blogspot.com
>
> This year the Pennsylvania Association for Sustainable Agriculture (PASA) will be hosting 1 1/2 day hands-on Small Ruminant workshop at the same location as the sale- Reedsville, PA - the Friday before and Saturday morning. This is a seperate event that requires registration- go to www.pasafarming! .org or
> www.hairsheepsale.blogspot.com
>
>

 

Hi Everyone,

October 24, 2009 will be the Annual Mid-Atlantic Hair Sheep Sale for
breeding sheep only. It will be held in Reedsville, PA at the Mifflin
County Fairgrounds. Reedsville, PA is almost dead center of the state of PA-
near State College (home of Penn State). The fairgrounds are just off of
Rt. 322.

Our last sale had sheep from 14 farms and 7 states. We had Katahdins, St. Croix and Dorpers.

Directions, hotel info and other helpful information can be found at www.hairsheepsale.blogspot.com

This year the Pennsylvania Association for Sustainable Agriculture (PASA) will be hosting 1 1/2 day hands-on Small Ruminant workshop at the same location as the sale- Reedsville, PA - the Friday before and Saturday morning. This is a seperate event that requires registration- go to www.pasafarming.org or
http://www.pasafarming.org/calendar-of-events?intYear=2009&intMonth=10
for more information on this educational opportunity.

So far I have been getting lots of calls about this sale and I hope that some of you folks will take advantage of this great opportunity.
To get the paperwork, email me at acadia@... and I can send it to
you as a PDF document.

I am happy to answer questions
and hopefully support your breed by providing this high quality sale.

Cadie Pruss
Ewe Win Farm
(717) 242-4154
acadia@lcworkshop
www.hairsheepsale.blogspot.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Malia Miller

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27 PM

Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Here's One For You...

 

Last week we showed our St. Croix against Dorpers at our county fair. Our judge assured me he had judged hair sheep previously (I was the Superintendent but did not tell him I had the St. Croix sheep). So he proceeds to place the Dorper HAIR sheep over the St. Croix HAIR sheep because the Dorper has greater potential for wool production than the St. Croix........Not once, but 3 times......I politely informed him after each class that these were hair sheep, not wool sheep. He politely informed me each time that he understood..... Last time he said so what is their purpose. I said meat and he said, Ohhhhhh, okay......But it was too late!! No do overs......Next time I will make sure the judge knows what he is judging and ask him to read the breed standards........

 

 

 

 

 

.

My 2--1/2 yr old "BB" male LGD solid creamish white medium length hair 25%
Anatolian x 75% Great Pyrenees,  may weigh 150 lbs, will not put up with
nonsense from immature pups.  He's my alpha goat guardian. He was with the rams
(sheep) yesterday while another LGD was with the goats. An voiced (woof!)
occured and I had 5 adult LGDs run lickety- split to various points of the field
they were in. The sheep continued to graise and the goats had come in to their
pen unaware of the alert made by their guardians.

And my 3 yr old "GG" (the mate to "BB") female LGD, solid white medium short
hair 25% Anatolian x 75% Great Pyrenees, may weigh 100 lbs. presently pregnant,
due in mid Nov. If you want her with one pup from this litter inside, then
she'll/they'll be available in January. She guards both sheep and goats. Hangs
around the goats the most. When the sheep come in she's not bothered by them as
they graise around her. If you raise sheep only she'd have to re-bond to them as
she's used to both sheep and goats here.

My dogs are not socialized to people therefore they have not been stolen. Of
course this makes it harder to "catch" the male, but there are ways.


Sharon
Holland, TX
Cell ph# 254-780-6342.
Raising the LGD x LGD for 15 yrs.
Do not reply to ad, call me instead. Thanks.

1 male smaller than normal (should be 40--45 lbs but only 25 lbs) 25% Anatolian
x 75% Great Pyrenees short haired pup. Definitely not long haired. Solid white.
Out of working parents. Great for guarding your hers, flocks. (Not used to
chickens.)

Ron Keener at rkeener@... is leaving on Oct 19th. May this pup go to
you?

Please contact me by phone as I am not at thge library and I am not online at
home.

Cell# 254-780-6342.

Sharon

Holland, TX

...from the library which is closing...

----- Original Message -----

From: Hollow Hills Ranch

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:36 AM

Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Re: St Croix Ram Lamb

 

FYI - If anyone has decent bodied colored lambs out of St Croix parents, and you don't live too far away, let us know. We are starting a flock of St Thomas Class A. Right now we just have a flock of St Croix and one of St Thomas Class B (besides our Katahdin and Recorded Katahdins).   Thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Connie & Amy Wheeler Molalla, OR Hollow Hills Ranch www.hollowhillsranch.com Purebred Katahdin, Recorded Hybrid Katahdin, Purebred St Croix, Recorded Hybrid St Thomas Class B, Unregistered Hybrid Hair Sheep,and Market stock. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

From: Jean

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 2009-09-21 11:45

Subject: RE: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Re: St Croix Ram Lamb

 

Thank you.
Jean
 


knitnfool@hotmail.com


 

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To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com
From: hollow_hills_ranch@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:43:40 -0700
Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Re: St Croix Ram Lamb

 

Jean,   There is a group for the colored purebred St Croix called the St Thomas Class A. They have to have 2 registered St Croix or St Thomas Class A parents to be in this classification. Once they become St Thomas Class A, they cannot go back to St Croix if they are white.   St Thomas Class B are hybrids of registered St Croix and other hair breeds. They can get up to 99.99% St Croix in their bloodline but will always be St Thomas Class B.   Just so you know! And if anyone has colored babies, advertise them as St Thomas, they might just sell for more than meat prices! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Connie & Amy Wheeler Molalla, OR Hollow Hills Ranch www.hollowhillsranch.com Purebred Katahdin, Recorded Hybrid Katahdin, Purebred St Croix, Recorded Hybrid St Thomas Class B, Unregistered Hybrid Hair Sheep,and Market stock. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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----- Original Message -----

From: PPressLLC@...

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 2009-09-21 08:01

Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Re: St Croix Ram Lamb / St. Thomas & registration #s

 

"I think the standard is color no larger than a quarter. Could be
wrong. It they have more color they are called St. Thomas. Still
good sheep, just a little color."

 

As I remember it, purebred St. Croix with too much color to be registered as St. Croix are Class A St. Thomas, whereas St. Croix crossbred (i.e. Dorper) are Class B St. Thomas.  How'm I doing??  lol

 

Re: Susan's comment about keeping up registrations, the sad thing around here is that people really can't afford much in the way of registered sheep prices.  Someone is selling Jacobs for $80 or thereabouts, but they are the exception, not the rule; a $200-$300 registered sheep of any breed is simply not on.  (Is that an accurate estimate for registered St. Croix prices??  It's been a while since I looked, but last time asking price for reg. Dorpers was still around there.)  Locally, people are looking for cheap sheep to eat, or to add to their small breeding flocks... to produce lambs to eat.  With the exception of the 4-H leader and a few people looking for "lawnmowers," food is the theme.

 

Mary

----- Original Message -----

From: Mindy Fenwrick

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:20 AM

Subject: RE: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb

Maybe Jean doesn't know what a St. Croix Hair Sheep looks like.

Mindy Fenwrick
JMS Farm
Dallas, OR
503-831-3092



 

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To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com
From: rhop418@...
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:12:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb

 

You know I was think along the same line. I thought well it might be just a joke. So I did not say anything. But I am like .Where is the flaw?

Rex

----- Original Message -----

From: bjtaustin@austinandpatterson.com

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:35 PM

Subject: Re: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb

Where is the flaw in this ram lamb?  He sounds good to me.

Barbara

On Sep 19, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Jean wrote:

Trying to sell a flawed animal for a 4-H project is VERY distasteful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shame on you.

knitnfool@hotmail.com


 

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To: hollow_hills_ranch@yahoo.com
From: hollow_hills_ranch@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:26:35 -0700
Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb

We have a June 2009 St Croix ram lamb for sale with some really great bloodlines. He is unregistered but would make a great flock sire by this coming spring/summer. He is pearly white with slight spots around his eyes (looks like eyeliner). Very well built with great conformation for the production of meat lambs. He is hair is slick and has no wool at all (note: his hair is getting thicker this time of year though for the winter ahead). He would make a great 4-H project for fair next year as a yearling too. Pictures will be available upon request. Please contact us by email or call 503-819-7862  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Connie & Amy Wheeler  Molalla, OR Hollow Hills Ranch www.hollowhillsranch.com Purebred Katahdin, Recorded Hybrid Katahdin,  Purebred St Croix, Recorded Hybrid St Thomas Class B,  Unregistered Hybrid Hair Sheep,and Market stock. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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No ruffled feathers here!  Nice to have newbies, keeps us on our toes.

susan
millstone farm



--- In origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com, "ringtail" <ringtail@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
> for what it's worth, I have spoken with Jean.  She is new to the St. Croix
breed and did not know that ANY color was allowed.  She's ok with this and did
write an apology since she didn't know.
> I'm glad there are so many watching the list.  Keeps us all straight and
informed.
> Have a good evening.
> Vanessa
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: PPressLLC@...
>   To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: 2009-09-20 18:28
>   Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Re: St Croix Ram Lamb
>
>
>
>   "Where is the flaw in this ram lamb? He sounds good to me."
>
>   Well heck, I'll play along-- without a picture, I'd guess maybe the slight
spots around the eyes??  If I remember the registry rules right, those spots are
allowed for St. Croix registration as long as they're smaller than some kind of
coin-- quarter??
>
>   And if it's a registration issue for 4-H, I don't know if the rules vary by
area, but one of our rams was purchased to breed 4-H sheep, and all I know about
his ewe flock is that they are not St. Croix.
>
>   Maybe it's just a joke, "the girls" have always seemed perfectly above-board
to me. :)
>
>   Mary
>

----- Original Message -----

From: PPressLLC@...

To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 2009-09-20 18:28

Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] Re: St Croix Ram Lamb

 

"Where is the flaw in this ram lamb? He sounds good to me."

 

Well heck, I'll play along-- without a picture, I'd guess maybe the slight spots around the eyes??  If I remember the registry rules right, those spots are allowed for St. Croix registration as long as they're smaller than some kind of coin-- quarter?? 

 

And if it's a registration issue for 4-H, I don't know if the rules vary by area, but one of our rams was purchased to breed 4-H sheep, and all I know about his ewe flock is that they are not St. Croix.

 

Maybe it's just a joke, "the girls" have always seemed perfectly above-board to me. :)

 

Mary 

St Croix are white sheep.  But they will occasionally show some minor spots.  A
section from the St Croix standards:

Disqualifications:
Body spot larger than a U.S. quarter dollar

And under Coat:
There may be a dark pigment around the eyes, nostrils and lips. Not
more than ¼ of the ear at the tip should carry dark pigments.

You may want to reconsider keeping your young ram Jean, if he looks to be a
quality animal.

The only thing I wish is that more would keep up registrations.

susan
millstone farm



--- In origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com, Jean <knitnfool@...> wrote:
>
>
> If I owe an apology here it is.  I'm sorry.
>
>
>
> Let me tell you what I thought though.
>
>
>
> I though a St. Croix sheep was ALL white.  I have St. Croix sheep and mine are
ALL white.  We do have a little one with a brown spot on him and he will go for
meat.
>
>
>
> So we can have St. Croix with color that's great maybe my little one can go
out in the field with the girls next year.
>
>
>
> How much color is allowed?  Maybe we can get together and start another breed.
>
>
>
> Any way I'm sorry if I spoke out of turn but I thought there was a standard to
this breed.  I also thought giving to a 4-H kid should be an animal that was
completely white.  I guess I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> Jean
>
> knitnfool@...
>
>
>
>
>
> To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com
> From: wittmin@...
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:20:37 -0700
> Subject: RE: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb
>
>
>
>
>
> Maybe Jean doesn't know what a St. Croix Hair Sheep looks like.
>
> Mindy Fenwrick
> JMS Farm
> Dallas, OR
> 503-831-3092
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com
> From: rhop418@...
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:12:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb
>
>
>
>
>
> You know I was think along the same line. I thought well it might be just a
joke. So I did not say anything. But I am like .Where is the flaw?
> Rex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bjtaustin@...
> To: origstcroixhairsheepassn@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb
>
> Where is the flaw in this ram lamb?  He sounds good to me.
>
>
> Barbara
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Jean wrote:
>
>
> Trying to sell a flawed animal for a 4-H project is VERY
distasteful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Shame on you.
>
> knitnfool@...
>
>
>
>
>
> To: hollow_hills_ranch@...
> From: hollow_hills_ranch@...
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:26:35 -0700
> Subject: [origstcroixhairsheepassn] St Croix Ram Lamb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We have a June 2009 St Croix ram lamb for sale with some really great
bloodlines. He is unregistered but would make a great flock sire by this coming
spring/summer. He is pearly white with slight spots around his eyes (looks like
eyeliner). Very well built with great conformation for the production of meat
lambs. He is hair is slick and has no wool at all (note: his hair is getting
thicker this time of year though for the winter ahead). He would make a great
4-H project for fair next year as a yearling too. Pictures will be available
upon request.
>
> Please contact us by email or call 503-819-7862
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Connie & Amy Wheeler
> Molalla, OR
>
> Hollow Hills Ranch
> www.hollowhillsranch.com
>
> Purebred Katahdin, Recorded Hybrid Katahdin,
> Purebred St Croix, Recorded Hybrid St Thomas Class B,
> Unregistered Hybrid Hair Sheep,and Market stock.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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