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#17636 From: "Iona" <IMCCORMICK1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:58 am
Subject: Re: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
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LOL about another barn.  I have one that is 100' x 20' and another that is 80' x
24'.   Each is broken into stalls or covered shelters with runs.  I still run
out of pens.
I have the brooders hanging from the rafters in the horse barn.  I guess I could
say I have 3 peafowl barns.
Iona McCormick
Quiet Place Farm
Jacksonville, NC USA
----- Original Message -----
From: John Scott
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to be
getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all the rest
seem to be getting along fine.
um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under lights
and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.
looks like I may need to build another barn...



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#17635 From: "Iona" <IMCCORMICK1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:51 am
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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Saw dust is fine for bedding, but I would fill up the low spot with sand or dirt
before I put the sawdust in the pens.
Iona McCormick
Quiet Place Farm
Jacksonville, NC USA
----- Original Message -----
From: araven281
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:17 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks





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#17634 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
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So you had one trouble maker.  Sorry........have to laugh with you saying
you need another barn.  We just keep adding one, don't we, LOL!!!
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:37 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks


> Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to
> be getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all
> the rest seem to be getting along fine.
>
> um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under
> lights and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.
>
> looks like I may need to build another barn...
>
> --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>>
>> Good Morning John,  I'm curious to know if your peacocks have settled
>> down
>> any or if you've figured out the cause of their aggression.  Noticed my
>> big
>> boy chasing the younger one yesterday.  I may have to pen the younger one
>> up
>> during breeding season.  Don't know what I'll do when my 2 -  4 month old
>> peacocks become of age.
>> darlene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
>> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:20 PM
>> Subject: [peafowl] Re: fighting peacocks
>>
>>
>> > I'll try to answer several questions with this one post.
>> >
>> > I have 18 peafowl in the pen that I mentioned.  They seem to get along
>> > great when I am with them.  On another, smallerpen I have another 7
>> > peababies, well they are about 18 months old.  The pea's that are in
>> > the
>> > big flight pen spend their winter in a large barn and only come out
>> > when
>> > the weather is nice, (meaning no snow or ice as the person I bought
>> > some
>> > of them from have let them out whent here was snow on the ground and
>> > they
>> > have had some frost bite).  What I dont understand is these birds
>> > havent
>> > fought in the last 1 1/2 years that I have had them.  Then all the
>> > sudden
>> > over the last month all the sudden this comes up.  As for something
>> > else
>> > getting to them and biting them I suppose it is possible.  However, the
>> > pen is made of 2x4 welded wire and the bottom 3' of the pen has an
>> > additional cover of chicken wire.
>> >
>> > So still trying to figure out what is going on
>> >
>> > John in
>> > Kansas
>> >
>> > --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My one free range breeding male won't tolerate another mature male on
>> >> this 5
>> >> acres.  He'll run himself to death chasing it off.  I've seen him
>> >> attack
>> >> with what looked like intentions to kill.  I've tried introducing a
>> >> second
>> >> peacock but I ended up reselling them.  I have a young male here now
>> >> that
>> >> will be breeding age next year.  He'll either be run next door where
>> >> he'll
>> >> reside with nice neighbors or I'll have to pen him.  What confuses me
>> >> is
>> >> you
>> >> say it looks like it's been pecked to death around the head.  I've
>> >> only
>> >> seen
>> >> mine attack with the feet.  I have a friend whose white peacock was
>> >> bite
>> >> in
>> >> the face by something.  She took it to a vet but lost it a few days
>> >> later.
>> >> Now I wonder if one of her other peacocks may have done it or if
>> >> perhaps
>> >> your peacocks are being bite by something other then another bird.  We
>> >> are
>> >> starting a 30 x 30 foot enclosure Tuesday that will be 3 - 10 x 30
>> >> foot
>> >> pens
>> >> with 10 feet on the end being shed.  I'm hoping that will help me with
>> >> all
>> >> these challenges owning peafowl presents.  My free-range hens fight
>> >> once
>> >> in
>> >> a while too but again.......the attacks are with their feet.  I
>> >> suppose
>> >> if
>> >> one was down it could get pecked to death.  Every day I learn
>> >> something
>> >> new.
>> >> I won't dare to put 2 peacocks together after hearing your dilemma.
>> >> Thanks
>> >> for sharing and good luck.
>> >>
>> >> darlene
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@
>> >> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:14 PM
>> >> Subject: [peafowl] fighting peacocks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I am wondering if anyone here has had issue with their peacocks
>> >> >fighting?
>> >> >I have a mixed flock (male and female) in a 24' x 40' covered aviary.
>> >> >Over
>> >> >the last 2 months I have noticed fighting and have lost 2.  They
>> >> >appear
>> >> >to
>> >> >have been pecked to death around the head.  I am out with them in the
>> >> >early
>> >> >morning and in the evenings but have not seen any fighting.  What I
>> >> >find
>> >> >is
>> >> >late in the evening when I go to close them in their buildings that
>> >> >is
>> >> >when
>> >> >I will find a wounded peacock.
>> >> >
>> >> > They have feed and water available 24/7 with multiple covered
>> >> > perches
>> >> > along with their bulding,1 section of which is a 16' x 16' with
>> >> > perches
>> >> > and the other is a 40' x 40' with perches.
>> >> >
>> >> > John Scott in
>> >> > Kansas
>>
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#17633 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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Our mulch is mostly oak and cedar.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <nc_hick1@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


We put some pine mulch in one of our pens that we got from a tree
service..... very bad idea. It worked good until we had heavy rain, the
mulch held the water in making a spongy mess. Had to shovel it all out and
add sand.

Steve in NC
http://www.sandspoultry.com




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From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky. Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17632 From: Mary Ellen Zydell <felidacity@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:39 pm
Subject: RE: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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I think sawdust would just make a big mess... Plus is can grow mold when it gets
wet and eventually rots..... I would put in sand or peagravel.
Mary EllenNorth Florida

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From: araven281@...
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:17:08 +0000
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?




























       We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought
up the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks



















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#17631 From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
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Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to be
getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all the rest
seem to be getting along fine.

um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under lights
and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.

looks like I may need to build another barn...

--- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning John,  I'm curious to know if your peacocks have settled down
> any or if you've figured out the cause of their aggression.  Noticed my big
> boy chasing the younger one yesterday.  I may have to pen the younger one up
> during breeding season.  Don't know what I'll do when my 2 -  4 month old
> peacocks become of age.
> darlene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: [peafowl] Re: fighting peacocks
>
>
> > I'll try to answer several questions with this one post.
> >
> > I have 18 peafowl in the pen that I mentioned.  They seem to get along
> > great when I am with them.  On another, smallerpen I have another 7
> > peababies, well they are about 18 months old.  The pea's that are in the
> > big flight pen spend their winter in a large barn and only come out when
> > the weather is nice, (meaning no snow or ice as the person I bought some
> > of them from have let them out whent here was snow on the ground and they
> > have had some frost bite).  What I dont understand is these birds havent
> > fought in the last 1 1/2 years that I have had them.  Then all the sudden
> > over the last month all the sudden this comes up.  As for something else
> > getting to them and biting them I suppose it is possible.  However, the
> > pen is made of 2x4 welded wire and the bottom 3' of the pen has an
> > additional cover of chicken wire.
> >
> > So still trying to figure out what is going on
> >
> > John in
> > Kansas
> >
> > --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@> wrote:
> >>
> >> My one free range breeding male won't tolerate another mature male on
> >> this 5
> >> acres.  He'll run himself to death chasing it off.  I've seen him attack
> >> with what looked like intentions to kill.  I've tried introducing a
> >> second
> >> peacock but I ended up reselling them.  I have a young male here now that
> >> will be breeding age next year.  He'll either be run next door where
> >> he'll
> >> reside with nice neighbors or I'll have to pen him.  What confuses me is
> >> you
> >> say it looks like it's been pecked to death around the head.  I've only
> >> seen
> >> mine attack with the feet.  I have a friend whose white peacock was bite
> >> in
> >> the face by something.  She took it to a vet but lost it a few days
> >> later.
> >> Now I wonder if one of her other peacocks may have done it or if perhaps
> >> your peacocks are being bite by something other then another bird.  We
> >> are
> >> starting a 30 x 30 foot enclosure Tuesday that will be 3 - 10 x 30 foot
> >> pens
> >> with 10 feet on the end being shed.  I'm hoping that will help me with
> >> all
> >> these challenges owning peafowl presents.  My free-range hens fight once
> >> in
> >> a while too but again.......the attacks are with their feet.  I suppose
> >> if
> >> one was down it could get pecked to death.  Every day I learn something
> >> new.
> >> I won't dare to put 2 peacocks together after hearing your dilemma.
> >> Thanks
> >> for sharing and good luck.
> >>
> >> darlene
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@
> >> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:14 PM
> >> Subject: [peafowl] fighting peacocks
> >>
> >>
> >> >I am wondering if anyone here has had issue with their peacocks
> >> >fighting?
> >> >I have a mixed flock (male and female) in a 24' x 40' covered aviary.
> >> >Over
> >> >the last 2 months I have noticed fighting and have lost 2.  They appear
> >> >to
> >> >have been pecked to death around the head.  I am out with them in the
> >> >early
> >> >morning and in the evenings but have not seen any fighting.  What I find
> >> >is
> >> >late in the evening when I go to close them in their buildings that is
> >> >when
> >> >I will find a wounded peacock.
> >> >
> >> > They have feed and water available 24/7 with multiple covered perches
> >> > along with their bulding,1 section of which is a 16' x 16' with perches
> >> > and the other is a 40' x 40' with perches.
> >> >
> >> > John Scott in
> >> > Kansas
>

#17630 From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sexing White peafowl
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Thanks Roger.
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----- Original Message ----
From: Roger K <rk4wheeler@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 6:02:35 PM
Subject: RE: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl


Hello Steve,
  I use http://www.vetdnacenter.com/  $19.00 1-4 samples $17.00 5+ samples  I
use them to sex young whites and java greens. You just clip their toe nail a
little to get a drop of blood to put on the sample card.

Regards, Roger 
























  


    
      
      
      Every time I look at them I go back and forth on who is who. I'm thinking
a cock and 2 hens, that would be a great start for white peas. We still have
them in the brooder barn so it's kind of hard to get a good look at them. If the
weather stays semi warm they might not be to far from going outside so we can
get a better look at them.



Matt, what is your website? or the link for the DNA testing, is it expensive?



Steve

http://www.sandspoultry.com



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From: Sussanne Chambers <sussannec@...>

To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:02:05 AM

Subject: RE: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl



 

Hi I have just brought two white peafowl aged 16 weeks. They are supposed

to be a male and female. When I asked the guy I brought them from how he

knew, he said you have to watch them in a crowd, the males just behave

differently. One is bigger than the other and my BS male only flew at one

out of the pair, the bigger of the two, who has slightly longer legs. So I

guess he knew which was the male too.



But only time will tell,



Sussanne

-----Original Message-----

From: peafowl@yahoogroups .com [mailto:peafowl@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of

pfowl62

Sent: 09 November 2009 16:09

To: peafowl@yahoogroups .com

Subject: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl



Carla is correct. At about a year the males' tail will look different than

the females. Otherwise if you 'just have to know' sooner, you can send of a

feather or blood sample for DNA testing. The thicker legs, etc isn't very

fool proof as far as I have ever found. We have a link to a lab on our

website.

Matt



--- In peafowl@yahoogroups .com, Steve <nc_hick1@.. .> wrote:

>

> We have a trio of White pea's about 3 months old - ish. Does anybody

have any tips on sexing them? The only thing I have noted so far is one has

thicker legs than the other 2.

>

> Steve in NC

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#17629 From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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We put some pine mulch in one of our pens that we got from a tree service.....
very bad idea. It worked good until we had heavy rain, the mulch held the
water in making a spongy mess. Had to shovel it all out and add sand.

Steve in NC 
 http://www.sandspoultry.com




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From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

 
We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up the
idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really mucky. Is
sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17628 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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Mold could grow in the large mulch too but here in the San Antonio area we
get mostly dry weather.  I'll keep an eye on it.  I've used it for a couple
years now without any problems.  Once in a while I will see some growth
where food spills out of the pans and gets wet.  I immediately remove it
with a shovel.  So many things to be aware of taking care of animals.  How
are you Sally?
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "sally holcomb" <salisez@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


it is ok but can allow mold to form and layer in and get deadly. the best
think is dry sand, white sand like used to mix morter and some people use
play sand but it iiss wet and needs to be opened and dried first. I use
busted cinder blocks in my driveway where there is holes as it sucks up it's
weight in rain water to prevent puddles and stabilize the base of the puddle
from getting bigger and deeper.GL
Sally




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From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky. Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17627 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Alexis
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I know what you're going through.  It's been about 2 months since we started
ours.....the structure is finished but still working on roosts, rocks around
perimeter, etc;  I miss my chicks being on the porch and so assessable for
visits.  They go nuts when I get out to see them with snacks.  Lucky you, I
started with one peacock and now have 11 peafowl, LOL!!!  Good
luck..........hope the work moves along well.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "araven281" <araven281@...>I
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:25 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: Alexis


> LOL still in the process!!  The building came down in a big wind storm, it
> was an old un-steady one, which helped us from not having to pull it down.
> Thought I had the fencing for the outside but it was only 4' when we got
> it so back to looking for 6' chain link.  The perimeter is almost 200' and
> we added a coop behind the barn versus IN the pen which adds more room.  I
> currently have 5 birds, my original pair and 3 of this years male chicks.
> We are slowly getting her done.  For now the poor birds are locked in a
> 10'x10' dog kennel.  They are actually enjoying it as they are in the
> middle of the driveway and get LOTS of attention and treats..  LOL  They
> will have access to half of the pen before winter sets in and then come
> spring we will complete it.  Will be cool to see them when it is all
> opened up and they can run..  hehehe
>
> --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>>
>> Going through old postings I never deleted and have to ask if you
>> completed
>> your plans Alexis.  I had to laugh when I got to your last sentence.
>> Don't
>> know about anyone else but I'm already wishing we'd built more then we
>> did
>> and am planning add ons before we're even finished, LOL!!!
>> darlene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alexis" <araven281@...>
>> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:43 AM
>> Subject: [peafowl] Re: Noisy male?- Aviarys..
>>
>>
>> > We have a chunk of area next and behind the barn that can't really be
>> > used
>> > that we are going to fence in for the birds.  It won't be anything
>> > major,
>> > and their coop will be a small building with 2 sections/stalls in it.
>> > I
>> > will use the one side for the birds (20x10 stall, it is a 20' by 20'
>> > building)) and the other half will house their food and be used for
>> > storage etc.  It will be attached to our already existing barn so it
>> > won't
>> > look too out of sorts.  I believe the semi final measurements are the
>> > spot
>> > behind the barn will be 20 wide by 45' long and the area to the side is
>> > 40' by 40' I believe..  They will have quite a bit of room to *play*,
>> > and
>> > it works out as the slope and position of the area can't really be used
>> > for anything else.  What I am trying to figure out is what HAS to be in
>> > their pen versus what do many of you find nice and wish you had done or
>> > hadn't done..
>> >
>>
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#17626 From: sally holcomb <salisez@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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it is ok but can allow mold to form and layer in and get deadly.  the best
think is dry sand, white sand like used to mix morter and some people use play
sand but it iiss wet and needs to be opened and dried first.  I use busted
cinder blocks in my driveway where there is holes as it sucks up it's weight in
rain water to prevent  puddles and stabilize the base of the puddle from
getting bigger and deeper.GL
Sally




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From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

 
We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up the
idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really mucky. Is
sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17625 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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Seems like it would soak up the water easily.  I use large mulch.  The water
tends to lay low and the top isn't mucky.
darlene

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Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


> We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought
> up the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting
> really mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks
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#17624 From: "araven281" <araven281@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: Alexis
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LOL still in the process!!  The building came down in a big wind storm, it was
an old un-steady one, which helped us from not having to pull it down.  Thought
I had the fencing for the outside but it was only 4' when we got it so back to
looking for 6' chain link.  The perimeter is almost 200' and we added a coop
behind the barn versus IN the pen which adds more room.  I currently have 5
birds, my original pair and 3 of this years male chicks.  We are slowly getting
her done.  For now the poor birds are locked in a 10'x10' dog kennel.  They are
actually enjoying it as they are in the middle of the driveway and get LOTS of
attention and treats..  LOL  They will have access to half of the pen before
winter sets in and then come spring we will complete it.  Will be cool to see
them when it is all opened up and they can run..  hehehe

--- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>
> Going through old postings I never deleted and have to ask if you completed
> your plans Alexis.  I had to laugh when I got to your last sentence.  Don't
> know about anyone else but I'm already wishing we'd built more then we did
> and am planning add ons before we're even finished, LOL!!!
> darlene
>
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> From: "Alexis" <araven281@...>
> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:43 AM
> Subject: [peafowl] Re: Noisy male?- Aviarys..
>
>
> > We have a chunk of area next and behind the barn that can't really be used
> > that we are going to fence in for the birds.  It won't be anything major,
> > and their coop will be a small building with 2 sections/stalls in it.  I
> > will use the one side for the birds (20x10 stall, it is a 20' by 20'
> > building)) and the other half will house their food and be used for
> > storage etc.  It will be attached to our already existing barn so it won't
> > look too out of sorts.  I believe the semi final measurements are the spot
> > behind the barn will be 20 wide by 45' long and the area to the side is
> > 40' by 40' I believe..  They will have quite a bit of room to *play*, and
> > it works out as the slope and position of the area can't really be used
> > for anything else.  What I am trying to figure out is what HAS to be in
> > their pen versus what do many of you find nice and wish you had done or
> > hadn't done..
> >
>

#17623 From: "araven281" <araven281@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 pm
Subject: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?
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We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks

#17622 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:18 am
Subject: Re: Edgar / Peafowl in the garden
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I'm late but want to thank you for this information.  Brunfelsia is a
beautiful flowering plant.  I read they are poisonous to dogs too so guess
all animals.  Probably won't plant any.........I may have a stupid pea that
would mistakenly eat some and will eventually get a dog.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edgar Rossal" <erossal@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] DARLENE / Peafowl in the garden




Hello Darlene!

I may think deers wont eat Brunfelsias since this plant it is poisonous in
all of its parts and all off my birds refuse them. I think animals taste a
little and left them and they also have like a sixth sense to refuse
toxicant plants.

Deers eat most of plants!! but I bet this one nop!

Check out this site for more info:

http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/brun_pau.cfm

PS: I have all my birds in the garden with 12 shrubs of brunfelsias and they
do not eat them and they had never been intoxicated either.

Edgar








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From: bdfive <bdfive@...>
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Edgar / Peafowl in the garden
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:25 AM






Do deer eat the plants mentioned below?
thanks, darlene

From: "Edgar Rossal" <erossal@yahoo. com>

I do also have noticed wich plants they hate and do not molest at all. For
example Clivias, Brunfelsias, Bulbinellas and many others.

#17621 From: "Dorinda" <all4hobbies@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Dori Ann, Diatomaceous Earth
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I think most of it is unless it is used for swimming pools. Sounds like you have
your Pea's in a happy place! We are moving ours down to their area this week
end. It will be their first time on the ground :) They have grown so fast! The
were 2 months old on the 7th and hardly fit in their cage anymore! I have
figured I have 2 boy and 1 girl. Gee, gonna have to get another hen or 2! Did
you post pics of your new aviary? Would love to see it.
Dori Ann
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wheel is here!!

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#17620 From: Roger K <rk4wheeler@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Sexing White peafowl
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Hello Steve,
   I use http://www.vetdnacenter.com/  $19.00 1-4 samples $17.00 5+ samples  I
use them to sex young whites and java greens. You just clip their toe nail a
little to get a drop of blood to put on the sample card.

Regards, Roger

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       Every time I look at them I go back and forth on who is who. I'm thinking
a cock and 2 hens, that would be a great start for white peas. We still have
them in the brooder barn so it's kind of hard to get a good look at them. If the
weather stays semi warm they might not be to far from going outside so we can
get a better look at them.



Matt, what is your website? or the link for the DNA testing, is it expensive?



Steve

  http://www.sandspoultry.com



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To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:02:05 AM

Subject: RE: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl





Hi I have just brought two white peafowl aged 16 weeks. They are supposed

to be a male and female. When I asked the guy I brought them from how he

knew, he said you have to watch them in a crowd, the males just behave

differently. One is bigger than the other and my BS male only flew at one

out of the pair, the bigger of the two, who has slightly longer legs. So I

guess he knew which was the male too.



But only time will tell,



Sussanne

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pfowl62

Sent: 09 November 2009 16:09

To: peafowl@yahoogroups .com

Subject: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl



Carla is correct. At about a year the males' tail will look different than

the females. Otherwise if you 'just have to know' sooner, you can send of a

feather or blood sample for DNA testing. The thicker legs, etc isn't very

fool proof as far as I have ever found. We have a link to a lab on our

website.

Matt



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>

> We have a trio of White pea's about 3 months old - ish. Does anybody

have any tips on sexing them? The only thing I have noted so far is one has

thicker legs than the other 2.

>

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#17619 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: Dori Ann, Diatomaceous Earth
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Here it is.  I've been looking for this and want to thank you for sharing it
Dori Ann.  Now I need to find out for sure if the Carl Pool brand that says
Earthsafe Organic on the bag is "food grade".  I've called them and they say
yes but it doesn't say it on the bag.  Does anyone know for sure?  I don't
want to take any chances.

Thanks,
darlene


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorinda" <all4hobbies@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: [peafowl] DE


> Kittens - 1/2 teaspoon
> Cats - 1 teaspoon
> Puppies - 1/2 to 1 tsp.
> Dogs under 35 lbs. - 1 teaspoon
> Dogs over 35 lbs. - 1 tablespoon
> Dogs over 100 lbs. - 2 tablespoons
> Cattle, Dairy Cows, & Hogs - 2% of dry feed ration
> Chickens - 5% in feed
> Goats & Sheep - 2% in grain
> Horses - 1/2 to 1 cup in daily ration
> *Humans - 1 heaping tablespoon daily
> This is the "accepted" theory. I use about 2% in my chicken food. Here is
> a web site that give a lot of info on it and other holistic ways of
> rearing animals.
> Dori Ann
> NC

#17618 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: Edgar
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Sorry for all the late responses and know I'm missing answering some.
Regarding the crests......they are taller and more bunched together which is
the trait of Green.  They have colors coming out on their wings and tails
but hard to see unless sun is shinning on them.  I hope it becomes more
predominant.
darlene

Hello Darlene

Well, you have a nice flock of peacocks!! I regret of not keeping some of
last year's hatchings. This year my peahens didnt incubate their clutch of
eggs, maybe was due to the very bad rainy season. Maybe next year!


Darlene if you wantto see if those peahens are spaldings just take a look at
their crests, they must differ from those IB's ok.

I dont think Icould get bored of my birds but it seems taht some people do,
loke your neighbourg!! jeje

Good day!

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Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:17:10 PM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Edgar/ fighting peacocks


1 IB breeding male
1 IB male that will be breeding next year
4 IB hens
Above are free range

2 IB - 3 month old Pied from the above peas (believe 1 male, 1 female)
1 IB - 3 month old I think is a male given to me by the farm a mile away
(left over from a sale)

2 breeding Spalding hens (I think). They showed up one day and stayed a
couple weeks then started going back and forth to a farm with peafowl about
a mile away. The owner said he didn't want any more IB males (thinking they
were juvenile IB males) so wanted to catch and sell them. Next time they
were here I managed to get them into the pen with food. They seemed
different so sent some pictures out and responses were they are Spalding
hens. They have green coming out in their tails and wings. I thinking I'll
get a Java male to breed with them. Any suggestions?

darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edgar Rossal" <erossal@yahoo. com>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] DARLENE/ fighting peacocks

Hi Darlene!

Looks nice!! a lot of space to make them happy indeed!

Hey! how many peacocks u have? and wich colors?

Good day!

Edgar

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#17617 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
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Good Morning John,  I'm curious to know if your peacocks have settled down
any or if you've figured out the cause of their aggression.  Noticed my big
boy chasing the younger one yesterday.  I may have to pen the younger one up
during breeding season.  Don't know what I'll do when my 2 -  4 month old
peacocks become of age.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: fighting peacocks


> I'll try to answer several questions with this one post.
>
> I have 18 peafowl in the pen that I mentioned.  They seem to get along
> great when I am with them.  On another, smallerpen I have another 7
> peababies, well they are about 18 months old.  The pea's that are in the
> big flight pen spend their winter in a large barn and only come out when
> the weather is nice, (meaning no snow or ice as the person I bought some
> of them from have let them out whent here was snow on the ground and they
> have had some frost bite).  What I dont understand is these birds havent
> fought in the last 1 1/2 years that I have had them.  Then all the sudden
> over the last month all the sudden this comes up.  As for something else
> getting to them and biting them I suppose it is possible.  However, the
> pen is made of 2x4 welded wire and the bottom 3' of the pen has an
> additional cover of chicken wire.
>
> So still trying to figure out what is going on
>
> John in
> Kansas
>
> --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>>
>> My one free range breeding male won't tolerate another mature male on
>> this 5
>> acres.  He'll run himself to death chasing it off.  I've seen him attack
>> with what looked like intentions to kill.  I've tried introducing a
>> second
>> peacock but I ended up reselling them.  I have a young male here now that
>> will be breeding age next year.  He'll either be run next door where
>> he'll
>> reside with nice neighbors or I'll have to pen him.  What confuses me is
>> you
>> say it looks like it's been pecked to death around the head.  I've only
>> seen
>> mine attack with the feet.  I have a friend whose white peacock was bite
>> in
>> the face by something.  She took it to a vet but lost it a few days
>> later.
>> Now I wonder if one of her other peacocks may have done it or if perhaps
>> your peacocks are being bite by something other then another bird.  We
>> are
>> starting a 30 x 30 foot enclosure Tuesday that will be 3 - 10 x 30 foot
>> pens
>> with 10 feet on the end being shed.  I'm hoping that will help me with
>> all
>> these challenges owning peafowl presents.  My free-range hens fight once
>> in
>> a while too but again.......the attacks are with their feet.  I suppose
>> if
>> one was down it could get pecked to death.  Every day I learn something
>> new.
>> I won't dare to put 2 peacocks together after hearing your dilemma.
>> Thanks
>> for sharing and good luck.
>>
>> darlene
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...
>> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:14 PM
>> Subject: [peafowl] fighting peacocks
>>
>>
>> >I am wondering if anyone here has had issue with their peacocks
>> >fighting?
>> >I have a mixed flock (male and female) in a 24' x 40' covered aviary.
>> >Over
>> >the last 2 months I have noticed fighting and have lost 2.  They appear
>> >to
>> >have been pecked to death around the head.  I am out with them in the
>> >early
>> >morning and in the evenings but have not seen any fighting.  What I find
>> >is
>> >late in the evening when I go to close them in their buildings that is
>> >when
>> >I will find a wounded peacock.
>> >
>> > They have feed and water available 24/7 with multiple covered perches
>> > along with their bulding,1 section of which is a 16' x 16' with perches
>> > and the other is a 40' x 40' with perches.
>> >
>> > John Scott in
>> > Kansas

#17616 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Christine, Feed
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Don't know if I ever answered this.  My birds love the Colby/Jack Cheese
that's marbled white/yellow.  I buy the all natural.  I keep a bird feeder
on the porch for the wild birds and also a pan of Wild Bird Feed mix on the
ground for the peas.  They eat quite a bit of it.  I've heard some folks
feed there peafowl nothing but cat or dog food.  I need to purchase a bag of
Maintenance Game Bird Feed next time I'm near the feed store.  Have only
been able to locate Sportsman's Choice around here.  I've noticed the birds
will go at "fresh" food put in their dish but can turn their nose up at it
if it's been setting a while.  Anyone else have that problem?

darlene

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To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:26 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: Christine, Feed


> Cheese?  I had no idea!  I guess its not bad for them?  I do make homemade
> raw goat milk cheese, so we'll have to see if they will like that as a
> treat.  Do they like hard cheese (like mozzerella) or soft cheese (like
> chevre)?  Maybe both?
>
> You are right about the natural seeds.  I have a big bag of "Wild Bird
> Feed mix" and they do enjoy that, sometimes I even sprout the seeds for
> them.  Once they found the cat food on the front porch and since I noticed
> some posts about cat food, I started adding that to their feed, just a
> little on top.
> .
> Down south here, we are just getting our gardens growing, so I'm sure they
> will love sharing the harvest when it starts to come in!
>
> These have all been great tips, thanks!!
>
> smiles,
> christine
>
> --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>>
>> I've tried so many feeds and yes, some from TS too.  I don't think
>> they've
>> eaten anything man made.....they like natural seeds.  Maybe because they
>> free range.  Presently they're eating dried cat food, black oiled
>> sunflower
>> seeds, corn and all the snacks I give them....some being watermelon,
>> cantaloupe, grapes, eggs, romaine lettuce, spinach, tomatoes, broccoli,
>> cauliflower and cabbage.  They love bread and crackers.  I buy 100% Multi
>> Whole Grain bread at Costco with 6% protein just for them, LOL!!!  Also
>> get
>> the huge bag of fresh spinach there which they devour.  OH, and
>> cheese....they love cheese.  Sometimes they eat cottage cheese and
>> sometime
>> not.  I think their food bill is higher then ours, LOL!!  I'd like to
>> just
>> fill up a pan with peafowl food and be done with it.  Giving them all
>> this
>> other stuff is time consuming.
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#17615 From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: Iona Throned, Steve as King
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Just bow to her majesty would probably be good enough. Me king? she would have
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Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:32:34 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Iona Throned, Steve as King

 
Shall we dress her up in feathers and put her on a throne? Steve at her
side as king........ rulers the our new land. With the way things are going
these days we're going to need a new existence.

I finally retired to the recliner and didn't wake up at daylight to put the
food out. My free range peafowl have flown the coop........ .not one in
sight.

darlene




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#17614 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: Iona Throned, Steve as King
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Shall we dress her up in feathers and put her on a throne?   Steve at her
side as king........rulers the our new land.  With the way things are going
these days we're going to need a new existence.

I finally retired to the recliner and didn't wake up at daylight to put the
food out.  My free range peafowl have flown the coop.........not one in
sight.

darlene


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From: "Steve" <nc_hick1@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Pea eggs


That's why we call Iona the "queen of pea's" here in NC...... or was that
"pea queen"? :)

I bet I even know what she is thinking when she reads this. Either - "Don't
help me Steve" or "I will get you Steve"
probably both.

Steve in NC
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To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 4:30:16 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Pea eggs


Just want to add another "Thanks" to Iona and all the other members that
take the time to help us newbies. (-:
darlene








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#17613 From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sexing White peafowl
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Every time I look at them I go back and forth on who is who. I'm thinking a cock
and 2 hens, that would be a great start for white peas. We still have them in
the brooder barn so it's kind of hard to get a good look at them. If the weather
stays semi warm they might not be to far from going outside so we can get a
better look at them.

Matt, what is your website? or the link for the DNA testing, is it expensive?

Steve
 http://www.sandspoultry.com




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From: Sussanne Chambers <sussannec@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:02:05 AM
Subject: RE: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl

 
Hi I have just brought two white peafowl aged 16 weeks. They are supposed
to be a male and female. When I asked the guy I brought them from how he
knew, he said you have to watch them in a crowd, the males just behave
differently. One is bigger than the other and my BS male only flew at one
out of the pair, the bigger of the two, who has slightly longer legs. So I
guess he knew which was the male too.

But only time will tell,

Sussanne
-----Original Message-----
From: peafowl@yahoogroups .com [mailto:peafowl@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of
pfowl62
Sent: 09 November 2009 16:09
To: peafowl@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [peafowl] Re: Sexing White peafowl

Carla is correct. At about a year the males' tail will look different than
the females. Otherwise if you 'just have to know' sooner, you can send of a
feather or blood sample for DNA testing. The thicker legs, etc isn't very
fool proof as far as I have ever found. We have a link to a lab on our
website.
Matt

--- In peafowl@yahoogroups .com, Steve <nc_hick1@.. .> wrote:
>
> We have a trio of White pea's about 3 months old - ish. Does anybody
have any tips on sexing them? The only thing I have noted so far is one has
thicker legs than the other 2.
>
> Steve in NC
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#17612 From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: Pea eggs
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That's why we call Iona the "queen of pea's" here in NC...... or was that "pea
queen"?  :)

I bet I even know what she is thinking when she reads this. Either - "Don't help
me Steve" or "I will get you Steve"
probably both.

Steve in NC
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Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 4:30:16 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Pea eggs

 
Just want to add another "Thanks" to Iona and all the other members that
take the time to help us newbies. (-:
darlene








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#17611 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:30 am
Subject: Re: Pea eggs
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Just want to add another "Thanks" to Iona and all the other members that
take the time to help us newbies.  (-:
darlene

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To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Pea eggs


> It is easier and cheaper to just pick up the eggs rather than having a hen
> spayed.  LOL
> Pea Eggs:
> This is what I have learned about peas laying in the 30+ years I have
> tended them.
> The hens aren't traumatized by having eggs or chicks removed.  I pick the
> eggs up every day and save them so I can put them in the incubator.  Pea
> hens aren't the best of mothers so I don't trust them to raise chicks that
> I sell to feed the rest of the flock.  Once in awhile I will let a hen set
> eggs, but I have enough pens to keep her safe from predators.
>
> Year before last I had a young hens hide a nest out before I could get her
> locked up. She was next to a phone pole in the edge of the barn yard.  I
> put a dog kennel around her. She hatched the eggs, but mashed 2 of the 5
> chicks she hatched.  I took the 3 live ones away from her.  Within 2 weeks
> she made a nest in a big pan on top of the pump house.  She hatched 4 more
> and got off with the nest.  I checked the nest that first day she left it
> and saved 2 more unhatched chicks. I locked her up in a pen in the chicken
> barn and she raised all 6 of the chicks. I consider this unusual.
>
> Picking up eggs:  Some of the hens will lay 10 to 20 eggs and go broody.
> I just leave the hens in the breeding pens until they get over it.  This
> means I have to bump them off the eggs they gather up each day, but it is
> no big deal.  Some of the pens have 4 to 6 hens in them.  Other hens lay
> every other day for the entire season of about 3 months.
>
> Birds Fighting:
> I have 18 surplus males loose on the farm. They hang around the Aviary and
> display for the hens. Some of them get into scraps, but they never fight
> hard or long.  The young males learn to stay out of the old boys way so
> there is no problem there.  There are some fights through the fence, but
> again they aren't serious.  Even the Java cock that is supposed to be so
> bad doesn't fight much.  He just displays to the male on the outside of
> the pens.
>
> Safe housing:
> All in all I would say having enough pens to keep the hens safe during
> breeding season it the trick to raising chicks that are hen hatched.  For
> several years I shut the hens up during breeding season and turned the
> loose in the late fall.  They got to free range all winter.  Now most of
> the hens stay penned all year.  I have a number of fancy colors that cost
> big $$$$ and I don't want to take a chance on loosing them.
> It would take a long post to explain safe housing.  Perhaps I will do that
> later.
>
> Iona McCormick
> Quiet Place Farm
> Jacksonville, NC USA

#17610 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:24 am
Subject: Re: Alexis
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Going through old postings I never deleted and have to ask if you completed
your plans Alexis.  I had to laugh when I got to your last sentence.  Don't
know about anyone else but I'm already wishing we'd built more then we did
and am planning add ons before we're even finished, LOL!!!
darlene

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Subject: [peafowl] Re: Noisy male?- Aviarys..


> We have a chunk of area next and behind the barn that can't really be used
> that we are going to fence in for the birds.  It won't be anything major,
> and their coop will be a small building with 2 sections/stalls in it.  I
> will use the one side for the birds (20x10 stall, it is a 20' by 20'
> building)) and the other half will house their food and be used for
> storage etc.  It will be attached to our already existing barn so it won't
> look too out of sorts.  I believe the semi final measurements are the spot
> behind the barn will be 20 wide by 45' long and the area to the side is
> 40' by 40' I believe..  They will have quite a bit of room to *play*, and
> it works out as the slope and position of the area can't really be used
> for anything else.  What I am trying to figure out is what HAS to be in
> their pen versus what do many of you find nice and wish you had done or
> hadn't done..
>

#17609 From: "Sussanne Chambers" <sussannec@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:02 am
Subject: RE: Re: Sexing White peafowl
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Hi I have just brought two white peafowl aged 16 weeks.  They are supposed
to be a male and female.  When I asked the guy I brought them from how he
knew, he said you have to watch them in a crowd, the males just behave
differently.  One is bigger than the other and my BS male only flew at one
out of the pair, the bigger of the two, who has slightly longer legs.  So I
guess he knew which was the male too.

But only time will tell,

Sussanne
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   Carla is correct. At about a year the males' tail will look different than
the females. Otherwise if you 'just have to know' sooner, you can send of a
feather or blood sample for DNA testing. The thicker legs, etc isn't very
fool proof as far as I have ever found. We have a link to a lab on our
website.
   Matt

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have any tips on sexing them? The only thing I have noted so far is one has
thicker legs than the other 2.
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#17608 From: "pfowl62" <djlexoticacres@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: Sexing White peafowl
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Carla is correct. At about a year the males' tail will look different than the
females. Otherwise if you 'just have to know' sooner, you can send of a feather
or blood sample for DNA testing. The thicker legs, etc isn't very fool proof as
far as I have ever found. We have a link to a lab on our website.
Matt

--- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, Steve <nc_hick1@...> wrote:
>
> We have a trio of White pea's about 3 months old - ish. Does anybody have any
tips on sexing them? The only thing I have noted so far is one has thicker legs
than the other 2.
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> Steve in NC
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#17607 From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: Sexing White peafowl
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My peachicks aren't white.  One IB and 2 Pied but I was able to tell some
time ago by the size of their feet and the males legs being a little longer.
Now it's obvious because the color in the necks of the 2 males is prominent.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:13 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sexing White peafowl


We have a trio of White pea's about 3 months old - ish. Does anybody have
any tips on sexing them? The only thing I have noted so far is one has
thicker legs than the other 2.

Steve in NC
http://www.sandspoultry.com









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