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Hi!  The hen I rescued because the people didn't want her walking into the
house.......(what is wrong with people?)  HA!!  it is a famous house....and the
doors all go up....and it is inside-outside.  She just walked in....and pooped. 
oh well.

then she showed up at their guest house.....first by herself.....then with her
chicks.  These chicks were hatched......(you will know more than I but I think
they were pretty new august 28th.  They  (guest house renters) called me when
the raccoon killed one chick......we got them Sept. 10th.

first one got sick.  I took him to the cat and bird hospital.  We have bantam
chickens.....I am learning peafowl are a bit more complicated.

One died at the vet.  One more died here with me giving antibiotics......and
then the vet prescribed baytril.23.7  per day for 5 days...he died on the last
day.  I had to sneak him out of there.....the Mommy was over him.  I just
sobbed.  Lordy!  I don't know why he died.  I asked someone if it was too much
of a dose......he told me something wise......"I don't second-guess vets.  and I
don't go back"  seems like really good advice ....but honestly;  I cried.

The female chick is now 10 weeks old.  She is healthy.  We have given her 2  (13
days apart) doses of panacur..and she is doing fine.  The Mommy I just got the
wormer  ( panacur)  today to give to her.  Now catching her and giving it to her
is going to be a story.  She is very tame.  and I only have to catch her twice. 
Any suggestions?  You knew all about the worms!  I have studied the
website....and know you are an expert.....and a fun person.

I will report.

I find these animals so interesting......and so fun!  My grandchildren love
them!

We have two coming to visit from Marblehead Mass....on Saturday for a week! 
Boys!  10 and 12  (almost 13!)

I am 62 ;  and I have wanted peacocks all my life since I first saw one when I
was 4!

I actually have a job!  I have been an interior decorator for 40 years!
We built a house in Montecito...California.....(I grew up in Pasadena...near Los
Angeles)  and 3 years after we built it.....OPRAH  bought the place next door! 
on two sides.

so we are in the middle of 90 acres......lots of
critters......bobcat.....coyotes.....and raccoons.....

loving our peafowl.  I think they are both female.

What a spirit you have!

fun to join this group!  The guy who invented yahoo groups lived here.  story
later.

Penelope

ps if you google me......"Penny Bianchi"  (use quotes or you will be all over
the place)..I think you can click on the New YorkSocial diary.....second
one....and see the whole place 6 years ago.  if you want!

P

On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:13 PM, bdfive wrote:

> Hello Penny.  I have a predator proof pen too now with 3 four month old
> chicks in it and 2 hens in the run next to the chicks.  Those in the trees
> are free range.
>
> Sorry to hear you lost 3 peachicks.  How old were they?  Have you wormed the
> hen and remaining chick?  I fed mine Medicated Purina Start/Gro and thank
> goodness they've been healthy.  I did keep them off the ground for 4 months.
> They are actually 4 and a half months old now.
>
> My hen has quit making noise.  Hope that raccoon doesn't go after them again
> tonight.  Hopefully I'll catch it tomorrow night.  I'd go set the trap now
> but I'd probably frighten the birds.
> darlene
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Penelope Bianchi" <penelopebi@...>
> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [peafowl] Raccoon
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>> OH WOW!
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>> I AM NEW TO PEAS.....LOVE THEM......WE HAVE A PREDATOR-PROOF
>> COOP.......BUT LOST 3 CHICKS TO WORMS...INFECTIONS......EVEN WITH THE VET
>> COMPLETELY.
>>
>> WE STILL HAVE THE MOM AND ONE FEMALE CHICK......PRAY FOR US.
>>
>> SHE LANDED HERE BECAUSE A RACCOON WENT UP THE TREE WHERE SHE WAS IN THE
>> FOOTHILLS....AND KILLED ONE OF HER CHICKS!
>>
>> PENNY
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:15 PM, bdfive wrote:
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>>> My peas are in trees just outside the house. I think they like it there
>>> because of the porch lights that help them to see if they're desturbed by
>>> a
>>> predator. Heard fussing about half hour ago, grabbed flashlight, ran out
>>> and saw a raccoon coming down out of the tree the peas are in. One hen
>>> flew
>>> into another tree and is still fussing. Looks like I'll be getting out he
>>> trap tomorrow. How dare that coon go up after my birds. Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!
>>> darlene
>>>
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#17648

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:13 am
Subject: Re: Raccoon

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Hello Penny.  I have a predator proof pen too now with 3 four month old
chicks in it and 2 hens in the run next to the chicks.  Those in the trees
are free range.

Sorry to hear you lost 3 peachicks.  How old were they?  Have you wormed the
hen and remaining chick?  I fed mine Medicated Purina Start/Gro and thank
goodness they've been healthy.  I did keep them off the ground for 4 months.
They are actually 4 and a half months old now.

My hen has quit making noise.  Hope that raccoon doesn't go after them again
tonight.  Hopefully I'll catch it tomorrow night.  I'd go set the trap now
but I'd probably frighten the birds.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Penelope Bianchi" <penelopebi@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Raccoon

> OH WOW!
>
> I AM NEW TO PEAS.....LOVE THEM......WE HAVE A PREDATOR-PROOF
> COOP.......BUT LOST 3 CHICKS TO WORMS...INFECTIONS......EVEN WITH THE VET
> COMPLETELY.
>
> WE STILL HAVE THE MOM AND ONE FEMALE CHICK......PRAY FOR US.
>
> SHE LANDED HERE BECAUSE A RACCOON WENT UP THE TREE WHERE SHE WAS IN THE
> FOOTHILLS....AND KILLED ONE OF HER CHICKS!
>
> PENNY
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:15 PM, bdfive wrote:
>
>> My peas are in trees just outside the house. I think they like it there
>> because of the porch lights that help them to see if they're desturbed by
>> a
>> predator. Heard fussing about half hour ago, grabbed flashlight, ran out
>> and saw a raccoon coming down out of the tree the peas are in. One hen
>> flew
>> into another tree and is still fussing. Looks like I'll be getting out he
>> trap tomorrow. How dare that coon go up after my birds. Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!
>> darlene
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From: Penelope Bianchi <penelopebi@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:53 am
Subject: Re: Raccoon

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OH WOW!

I AM NEW TO PEAS.....LOVE THEM......WE HAVE A PREDATOR-PROOF COOP.......BUT LOST
3 CHICKS TO WORMS...INFECTIONS......EVEN WITH THE VET COMPLETELY.

WE STILL HAVE THE MOM AND ONE FEMALE CHICK......PRAY FOR US.

SHE LANDED HERE BECAUSE A RACCOON WENT UP THE TREE WHERE SHE WAS IN THE
FOOTHILLS....AND KILLED ONE OF HER CHICKS!

PENNY
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:15 PM, bdfive wrote:

> My peas are in trees just outside the house. I think they like it there
> because of the porch lights that help them to see if they're desturbed by a
> predator. Heard fussing about half hour ago, grabbed flashlight, ran out
> and saw a raccoon coming down out of the tree the peas are in. One hen flew
> into another tree and is still fussing. Looks like I'll be getting out he
> trap tomorrow. How dare that coon go up after my birds. Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!
> darlene
>
>

Penelope Bianchi
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#17646

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:15 am
Subject: Re: Raccoon

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My peas are in trees just outside the house.  I think they like it there
because of the porch lights that help them to see if they're desturbed by a
predator.  Heard fussing about half hour ago, grabbed flashlight, ran out
and saw a raccoon coming down out of the tree the peas are in.  One hen flew
into another tree and is still fussing.  Looks like I'll be getting out he
trap tomorrow.  How dare that coon go up after my birds.  Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!
darlene

#17645

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: Silly Peachicks

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It was cold and rained last night but the silly peachicks roosted on the
cedar log in the uncovered part of the pen instead of the one under cover.
It's going down to 36 tonight and they've already decided on the outside one
for tonight.  I wonder if I put a light in the covered area if they'll stay
in there nights?  It's all open between the covered shed and uncovered area
(no wall).  They are 18 weeks old so going on 5 months and have plenty of
feathers so guess they will be ok.  Waaaaa, my poor little chickies.

Oh goodness, neighbor just called and said 32 tonight.  I need to go cover
my Meyers Lemon tree.  Waaaaaaaaaaa, will my chickies be ok?

darlene

#17644

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: D. Earth? Carl Pool brand?, SAwdust

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I've been wondering how everyone uses so much DE.  I don't remember how much
but when I bought mine some time ago it was pretty expensive for an 8 lb
bag.  Is the price a lot different between the "food grade" and for "pool
use"?  Maybe a larger bag would reduce the price substantially?   I'm told
by the company (Carl Pool) that what I have is food grade but because it
doesn't say it on the bag I hesitate to use it as a natural wormer for the
peas.  Does anyone know about that brand?
Thanks,
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Val" <valnfla@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: SAwdust


>I have found DE loosens up the soil and allows the water to drain better
>and
> the soil dries out, even if it is mucky when I apply it. I have had spots
> that I was afraid to walk through for fear of slipping and falling on my
> butt into the nasty stuff. If I put enough down in the area, I have not
> had
> to treat the same spot for a very long time, years. I buy the 25 pound
> bags
> at the pool supply store after carefully looking at the ingredients and
> finding the bags I was able to get here are only DE, no chemicals added.
> This is my experience with DE and muck.
> Val
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> Posted by: "Steve" nc_hick1@...   nc_hick1
> Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:40 am (PST)
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> I've got to ask, how does DE dry up a mucky spot?
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> To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 12:41:58 AM
> Subject: Fw: [peafowl] sawdust
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> Sawdust can have toxins in it depending on what type of wood it came from
> also. Try DE, when my pens get a mucky spot that won't dry I spread DE
> it's
> not toxic to the birds or animals, if fact it's a natural wormer. I would
> spread sand and DE if you think DE alone won't do it but you will be
> surprised how well DE works.
> Val
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> OK Alex or one of you other genetics specialists :-)
> Silver Pied Blue male with Silver Pied Purple Hens
> What are my possible outcomes?
> Blue Males and Purple females in Silver Pied, White, and Pied?
> I have had purples for years so I get the color part of it but Silver Pied
> and what it does to the colors is new to me :-) Unless of course the male
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From: "Val" <valnfla@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: SAwdust

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I have found DE loosens up the soil and allows the water to drain better and
the soil dries out, even if it is mucky when I apply it. I have had spots
that I was afraid to walk through for fear of slipping and falling on my
butt into the nasty stuff. If I put enough down in the area, I have not had
to treat the same spot for a very long time, years. I buy the 25 pound bags
at the pool supply store after carefully looking at the ingredients and
finding the bags I was able to get here are only DE, no chemicals added.
This is my experience with DE and muck.
Val

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To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [peafowl] Digest Number 3152

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I've got to ask, how does DE dry up a mucky spot?

Steve in NC
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To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 12:41:58 AM
Subject: Fw: [peafowl] sawdust



Sawdust can have toxins in it depending on what type of wood it came from
also. Try DE, when my pens get a mucky spot that won't dry I spread DE it's
not toxic to the birds or animals, if fact it's a natural wormer. I would
spread sand and DE if you think DE alone won't do it but you will be
surprised how well DE works.
Val

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OK Alex or one of you other genetics specialists :-)
Silver Pied Blue male with Silver Pied Purple Hens
What are my possible outcomes?
Blue Males and Purple females in Silver Pied, White, and Pied?
I have had purples for years so I get the color part of it but Silver Pied
and what it does to the colors is new to me :-) Unless of course the male is
split to purple.....

Val Rohwer

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From: gardienbmf@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: genetics again

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OK Alex or one of you other genetics specialists :-)
Silver Pied Blue male with Silver Pied Purple Hens
What are my possible outcomes?
Blue Males and Purple females in Silver Pied, White, and Pied?
I have had purples for years so I get the color part of it but Silver Pied and
what it does to the colors is new to me :-) Unless of course the male is split
to purple.....

Val Rohwer



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From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: sawdust

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I've got to ask, how does DE dry up a mucky spot?

Steve in NC
 http://www.sandspoultry.com




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From: Val <valnfla@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 12:41:58 AM
Subject: Fw: [peafowl] sawdust

 


Sawdust can have toxins in it depending on what type of wood it came from
also. Try DE, when my pens get a mucky spot that won't dry I spread DE it's
not toxic to the birds or animals, if fact it's a natural wormer. I would
spread sand and DE if you think DE alone won't do it but you will be
surprised how well DE works.
Val

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#17640

From: "Val" <valnfla@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:41 am
Subject: Fw: sawdust

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Sawdust can have toxins in it depending on what type of wood it came from
also. Try DE, when my pens get a mucky spot that won't dry I spread DE it's
not toxic to the birds or animals, if fact it's a natural wormer. I would
spread sand and DE if you think DE alone won't do it but you will be
surprised how well DE works.
Val

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#17639

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:10 am
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

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Thanks Sally.  I've read and heard cedar isn't good but Tractor Supply is
selling shavings that is half cedar and half pine.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "sally holcomb" <salisez@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

that and pine is ok but beware shavings or sawdust from wood like walnut. It
is lethal to horses and goats, not sure about birds
Sally

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From: bdfive <bdfive@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 9:45:55 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

Our mulch is mostly oak and cedar.
darlene

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From: "Steve" <nc_hick1@yahoo. com>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We put some pine mulch in one of our pens that we got from a tree
service..... very bad idea. It worked good until we had heavy rain, the
mulch held the water in making a spongy mess. Had to shovel it all out and
add sand.

Steve in NC
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To: peafowl@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky. Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks

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#17638

From: sally holcomb <salisez@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:28 am
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

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that and pine is ok but beware shavings or sawdust from wood like walnut.  It
is lethal to horses and goats, not sure about birds
Sally

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From: bdfive <bdfive@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 9:45:55 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

Our mulch is mostly oak and cedar.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <nc_hick1@yahoo. com>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We put some pine mulch in one of our pens that we got from a tree
service..... very bad idea. It worked good until we had heavy rain, the
mulch held the water in making a spongy mess. Had to shovel it all out and
add sand.

Steve in NC
http://www.sandspoultry.com

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To: peafowl@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky. Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks

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#17637

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:15 am
Subject: Re: Pea Fowl Housing,John Scott, fighting peacocks

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Poor little me..........I only have the 30 by 30 foot enclosure divided into
3 pens.  After building that my husband would kick me to the curb if I even
hinted wanting more.  Guess I'll be staying low key, LOL!!!
darlene

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From: "Iona" <IMCCORMICK1@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks


> LOL about another barn.  I have one that is 100' x 20' and another that is
> 80' x 24'.   Each is broken into stalls or covered shelters with runs.  I
> still run out of pens.
> I have the brooders hanging from the rafters in the horse barn.  I guess I
> could say I have 3 peafowl barns.
> Iona McCormick
> Quiet Place Farm
> Jacksonville, NC USA
> ----- Original Message -----

> From: John Scott
> To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:37 AM
> Subject: [peafowl] Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
> Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to
> be getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all
> the rest seem to be getting along fine.
> um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under
> lights and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.
> looks like I may need to build another barn...
>
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From: "Iona" <IMCCORMICK1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:58 am
Subject: Re: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks

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LOL about another barn.  I have one that is 100' x 20' and another that is 80' x
24'.   Each is broken into stalls or covered shelters with runs.  I still run
out of pens.
I have the brooders hanging from the rafters in the horse barn.  I guess I could
say I have 3 peafowl barns.
Iona McCormick
Quiet Place Farm
Jacksonville, NC USA
----- Original Message -----
From: John Scott
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks
Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to be
getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all the rest
seem to be getting along fine.
um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under lights
and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.
looks like I may need to build another barn...



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#17635

From: "Iona" <IMCCORMICK1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:51 am
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

ncredhen

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Saw dust is fine for bedding, but I would fill up the low spot with sand or dirt
before I put the sawdust in the pens.
Iona McCormick
Quiet Place Farm
Jacksonville, NC USA
----- Original Message -----
From: araven281
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:17 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks

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#17634

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks

bdfive

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So you had one trouble maker.  Sorry........have to laugh with you saying
you need another barn.  We just keep adding one, don't we, LOL!!!
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:37 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks


> Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to
> be getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all
> the rest seem to be getting along fine.
>
> um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under
> lights and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.
>
> looks like I may need to build another barn...
>
> --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>>
>> Good Morning John,  I'm curious to know if your peacocks have settled
>> down
>> any or if you've figured out the cause of their aggression.  Noticed my
>> big
>> boy chasing the younger one yesterday.  I may have to pen the younger one
>> up
>> during breeding season.  Don't know what I'll do when my 2 -  4 month old
>> peacocks become of age.
>> darlene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
>> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:20 PM
>> Subject: [peafowl] Re: fighting peacocks
>>
>>
>> > I'll try to answer several questions with this one post.
>> >
>> > I have 18 peafowl in the pen that I mentioned.  They seem to get along
>> > great when I am with them.  On another, smallerpen I have another 7
>> > peababies, well they are about 18 months old.  The pea's that are in
>> > the
>> > big flight pen spend their winter in a large barn and only come out
>> > when
>> > the weather is nice, (meaning no snow or ice as the person I bought
>> > some
>> > of them from have let them out whent here was snow on the ground and
>> > they
>> > have had some frost bite).  What I dont understand is these birds
>> > havent
>> > fought in the last 1 1/2 years that I have had them.  Then all the
>> > sudden
>> > over the last month all the sudden this comes up.  As for something
>> > else
>> > getting to them and biting them I suppose it is possible.  However, the
>> > pen is made of 2x4 welded wire and the bottom 3' of the pen has an
>> > additional cover of chicken wire.
>> >
>> > So still trying to figure out what is going on
>> >
>> > John in
>> > Kansas
>> >
>> > --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My one free range breeding male won't tolerate another mature male on
>> >> this 5
>> >> acres.  He'll run himself to death chasing it off.  I've seen him
>> >> attack
>> >> with what looked like intentions to kill.  I've tried introducing a
>> >> second
>> >> peacock but I ended up reselling them.  I have a young male here now
>> >> that
>> >> will be breeding age next year.  He'll either be run next door where
>> >> he'll
>> >> reside with nice neighbors or I'll have to pen him.  What confuses me
>> >> is
>> >> you
>> >> say it looks like it's been pecked to death around the head.  I've
>> >> only
>> >> seen
>> >> mine attack with the feet.  I have a friend whose white peacock was
>> >> bite
>> >> in
>> >> the face by something.  She took it to a vet but lost it a few days
>> >> later.
>> >> Now I wonder if one of her other peacocks may have done it or if
>> >> perhaps
>> >> your peacocks are being bite by something other then another bird.  We
>> >> are
>> >> starting a 30 x 30 foot enclosure Tuesday that will be 3 - 10 x 30
>> >> foot
>> >> pens
>> >> with 10 feet on the end being shed.  I'm hoping that will help me with
>> >> all
>> >> these challenges owning peafowl presents.  My free-range hens fight
>> >> once
>> >> in
>> >> a while too but again.......the attacks are with their feet.  I
>> >> suppose
>> >> if
>> >> one was down it could get pecked to death.  Every day I learn
>> >> something
>> >> new.
>> >> I won't dare to put 2 peacocks together after hearing your dilemma.
>> >> Thanks
>> >> for sharing and good luck.
>> >>
>> >> darlene
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@
>> >> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:14 PM
>> >> Subject: [peafowl] fighting peacocks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I am wondering if anyone here has had issue with their peacocks
>> >> >fighting?
>> >> >I have a mixed flock (male and female) in a 24' x 40' covered aviary.
>> >> >Over
>> >> >the last 2 months I have noticed fighting and have lost 2.  They
>> >> >appear
>> >> >to
>> >> >have been pecked to death around the head.  I am out with them in the
>> >> >early
>> >> >morning and in the evenings but have not seen any fighting.  What I
>> >> >find
>> >> >is
>> >> >late in the evening when I go to close them in their buildings that
>> >> >is
>> >> >when
>> >> >I will find a wounded peacock.
>> >> >
>> >> > They have feed and water available 24/7 with multiple covered
>> >> > perches
>> >> > along with their bulding,1 section of which is a 16' x 16' with
>> >> > perches
>> >> > and the other is a 40' x 40' with perches.
>> >> >
>> >> > John Scott in
>> >> > Kansas
>>
>
>
>
>
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#17633

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

bdfive

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Our mulch is mostly oak and cedar.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <nc_hick1@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We put some pine mulch in one of our pens that we got from a tree
service..... very bad idea. It worked good until we had heavy rain, the
mulch held the water in making a spongy mess. Had to shovel it all out and
add sand.

Steve in NC
http://www.sandspoultry.com

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From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky. Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks

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#17632

From: Mary Ellen Zydell <felidacity@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:39 pm
Subject: RE: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

felidacity

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I think sawdust would just make a big mess... Plus is can grow mold when it gets
wet and eventually rots..... I would put in sand or peagravel.
Mary EllenNorth Florida

To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
From: araven281@...
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:17:08 +0000
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

       We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought
up the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks

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#17631

From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: John Scott, fighting peacocks

sekanman

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Hello and goodmorning to all;  the latest on my pea's is they now seem to be
getting along great.  I did pull 1 male out of the group pen and all the rest
seem to be getting along fine.

um, so fine that I have something like 40 chicks in the brood barn under lights
and another 20 eggs or so due to hatch in the next few days.

looks like I may need to build another barn...

--- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning John,  I'm curious to know if your peacocks have settled down
> any or if you've figured out the cause of their aggression.  Noticed my big
> boy chasing the younger one yesterday.  I may have to pen the younger one up
> during breeding season.  Don't know what I'll do when my 2 -  4 month old
> peacocks become of age.
> darlene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@...>
> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: [peafowl] Re: fighting peacocks
>
>
> > I'll try to answer several questions with this one post.
> >
> > I have 18 peafowl in the pen that I mentioned.  They seem to get along
> > great when I am with them.  On another, smallerpen I have another 7
> > peababies, well they are about 18 months old.  The pea's that are in the
> > big flight pen spend their winter in a large barn and only come out when
> > the weather is nice, (meaning no snow or ice as the person I bought some
> > of them from have let them out whent here was snow on the ground and they
> > have had some frost bite).  What I dont understand is these birds havent
> > fought in the last 1 1/2 years that I have had them.  Then all the sudden
> > over the last month all the sudden this comes up.  As for something else
> > getting to them and biting them I suppose it is possible.  However, the
> > pen is made of 2x4 welded wire and the bottom 3' of the pen has an
> > additional cover of chicken wire.
> >
> > So still trying to figure out what is going on
> >
> > John in
> > Kansas
> >
> > --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@> wrote:
> >>
> >> My one free range breeding male won't tolerate another mature male on
> >> this 5
> >> acres.  He'll run himself to death chasing it off.  I've seen him attack
> >> with what looked like intentions to kill.  I've tried introducing a
> >> second
> >> peacock but I ended up reselling them.  I have a young male here now that
> >> will be breeding age next year.  He'll either be run next door where
> >> he'll
> >> reside with nice neighbors or I'll have to pen him.  What confuses me is
> >> you
> >> say it looks like it's been pecked to death around the head.  I've only
> >> seen
> >> mine attack with the feet.  I have a friend whose white peacock was bite
> >> in
> >> the face by something.  She took it to a vet but lost it a few days
> >> later.
> >> Now I wonder if one of her other peacocks may have done it or if perhaps
> >> your peacocks are being bite by something other then another bird.  We
> >> are
> >> starting a 30 x 30 foot enclosure Tuesday that will be 3 - 10 x 30 foot
> >> pens
> >> with 10 feet on the end being shed.  I'm hoping that will help me with
> >> all
> >> these challenges owning peafowl presents.  My free-range hens fight once
> >> in
> >> a while too but again.......the attacks are with their feet.  I suppose
> >> if
> >> one was down it could get pecked to death.  Every day I learn something
> >> new.
> >> I won't dare to put 2 peacocks together after hearing your dilemma.
> >> Thanks
> >> for sharing and good luck.
> >>
> >> darlene
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Scott" <sekanman@
> >> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:14 PM
> >> Subject: [peafowl] fighting peacocks
> >>
> >>
> >> >I am wondering if anyone here has had issue with their peacocks
> >> >fighting?
> >> >I have a mixed flock (male and female) in a 24' x 40' covered aviary.
> >> >Over
> >> >the last 2 months I have noticed fighting and have lost 2.  They appear
> >> >to
> >> >have been pecked to death around the head.  I am out with them in the
> >> >early
> >> >morning and in the evenings but have not seen any fighting.  What I find
> >> >is
> >> >late in the evening when I go to close them in their buildings that is
> >> >when
> >> >I will find a wounded peacock.
> >> >
> >> > They have feed and water available 24/7 with multiple covered perches
> >> > along with their bulding,1 section of which is a 16' x 16' with perches
> >> > and the other is a 40' x 40' with perches.
> >> >
> >> > John Scott in
> >> > Kansas
>

#17630

From: Steve <nc_hick1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sexing White peafowl

nc_hick1

Online Now

We put some pine mulch in one of our pens that we got from a tree service.....
very bad idea. It worked good until we had heavy rain, the mulch held the
water in making a spongy mess. Had to shovel it all out and add sand.

Steve in NC 
 http://www.sandspoultry.com




________________________________
From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

 
We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up the
idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really mucky. Is
sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17628

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

bdfive

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Mold could grow in the large mulch too but here in the San Antonio area we
get mostly dry weather.  I'll keep an eye on it.  I've used it for a couple
years now without any problems.  Once in a while I will see some growth
where food spills out of the pans and gets wet.  I immediately remove it
with a shovel.  So many things to be aware of taking care of animals.  How
are you Sally?
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "sally holcomb" <salisez@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


it is ok but can allow mold to form and layer in and get deadly. the best
think is dry sand, white sand like used to mix morter and some people use
play sand but it iiss wet and needs to be opened and dried first. I use
busted cinder blocks in my driveway where there is holes as it sucks up it's
weight in rain water to prevent puddles and stabilize the base of the puddle
from getting bigger and deeper.GL
Sally




________________________________
From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky. Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17627

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Alexis

bdfive

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I know what you're going through.  It's been about 2 months since we started
ours.....the structure is finished but still working on roosts, rocks around
perimeter, etc;  I miss my chicks being on the porch and so assessable for
visits.  They go nuts when I get out to see them with snacks.  Lucky you, I
started with one peacock and now have 11 peafowl, LOL!!!  Good
luck..........hope the work moves along well.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "araven281" <araven281@...>I
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:25 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Re: Alexis


> LOL still in the process!!  The building came down in a big wind storm, it
> was an old un-steady one, which helped us from not having to pull it down.
> Thought I had the fencing for the outside but it was only 4' when we got
> it so back to looking for 6' chain link.  The perimeter is almost 200' and
> we added a coop behind the barn versus IN the pen which adds more room.  I
> currently have 5 birds, my original pair and 3 of this years male chicks.
> We are slowly getting her done.  For now the poor birds are locked in a
> 10'x10' dog kennel.  They are actually enjoying it as they are in the
> middle of the driveway and get LOTS of attention and treats..  LOL  They
> will have access to half of the pen before winter sets in and then come
> spring we will complete it.  Will be cool to see them when it is all
> opened up and they can run..  hehehe
>
> --- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>>
>> Going through old postings I never deleted and have to ask if you
>> completed
>> your plans Alexis.  I had to laugh when I got to your last sentence.
>> Don't
>> know about anyone else but I'm already wishing we'd built more then we
>> did
>> and am planning add ons before we're even finished, LOL!!!
>> darlene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alexis" <araven281@...>
>> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:43 AM
>> Subject: [peafowl] Re: Noisy male?- Aviarys..
>>
>>
>> > We have a chunk of area next and behind the barn that can't really be
>> > used
>> > that we are going to fence in for the birds.  It won't be anything
>> > major,
>> > and their coop will be a small building with 2 sections/stalls in it.
>> > I
>> > will use the one side for the birds (20x10 stall, it is a 20' by 20'
>> > building)) and the other half will house their food and be used for
>> > storage etc.  It will be attached to our already existing barn so it
>> > won't
>> > look too out of sorts.  I believe the semi final measurements are the
>> > spot
>> > behind the barn will be 20 wide by 45' long and the area to the side is
>> > 40' by 40' I believe..  They will have quite a bit of room to *play*,
>> > and
>> > it works out as the slope and position of the area can't really be used
>> > for anything else.  What I am trying to figure out is what HAS to be in
>> > their pen versus what do many of you find nice and wish you had done or
>> > hadn't done..
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>

#17626

From: sally holcomb <salisez@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

salisez

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it is ok but can allow mold to form and layer in and get deadly.  the best
think is dry sand, white sand like used to mix morter and some people use play
sand but it iiss wet and needs to be opened and dried first.  I use busted
cinder blocks in my driveway where there is holes as it sucks up it's weight in
rain water to prevent  puddles and stabilize the base of the puddle from
getting bigger and deeper.GL
Sally




________________________________
From: araven281 <araven281@...>
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:17:08 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

 
We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby brought up the
idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really mucky. Is
sawdust safe to use in the peas pens? Thanks







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#17625

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

bdfive

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Seems like it would soak up the water easily.  I use large mulch.  The water
tends to lay low and the top isn't mucky.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "araven281" <araven281@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [peafowl] Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?


> We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought
> up the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting
> really mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#17624

From: "araven281" <araven281@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: Alexis

araven281

Offline

LOL still in the process!!  The building came down in a big wind storm, it was
an old un-steady one, which helped us from not having to pull it down.  Thought
I had the fencing for the outside but it was only 4' when we got it so back to
looking for 6' chain link.  The perimeter is almost 200' and we added a coop
behind the barn versus IN the pen which adds more room.  I currently have 5
birds, my original pair and 3 of this years male chicks.  We are slowly getting
her done.  For now the poor birds are locked in a 10'x10' dog kennel.  They are
actually enjoying it as they are in the middle of the driveway and get LOTS of
attention and treats..  LOL  They will have access to half of the pen before
winter sets in and then come spring we will complete it.  Will be cool to see
them when it is all opened up and they can run..  hehehe

--- In peafowl@yahoogroups.com, "bdfive" <bdfive@...> wrote:
>
> Going through old postings I never deleted and have to ask if you completed
> your plans Alexis.  I had to laugh when I got to your last sentence.  Don't
> know about anyone else but I'm already wishing we'd built more then we did
> and am planning add ons before we're even finished, LOL!!!
> darlene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexis" <araven281@...>
> To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:43 AM
> Subject: [peafowl] Re: Noisy male?- Aviarys..
>
>
> > We have a chunk of area next and behind the barn that can't really be used
> > that we are going to fence in for the birds.  It won't be anything major,
> > and their coop will be a small building with 2 sections/stalls in it.  I
> > will use the one side for the birds (20x10 stall, it is a 20' by 20'
> > building)) and the other half will house their food and be used for
> > storage etc.  It will be attached to our already existing barn so it won't
> > look too out of sorts.  I believe the semi final measurements are the spot
> > behind the barn will be 20 wide by 45' long and the area to the side is
> > 40' by 40' I believe..  They will have quite a bit of room to *play*, and
> > it works out as the slope and position of the area can't really be used
> > for anything else.  What I am trying to figure out is what HAS to be in
> > their pen versus what do many of you find nice and wish you had done or
> > hadn't done..
> >
>

#17623

From: "araven281" <araven281@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 pm
Subject: Sawdust for pea bedding/footing?

araven281

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We have a low spot in our pea pen that gets quite mucky and hubby  brought up
the idea to layer it good with sawdust to help keep it from getting really
mucky.  Is sawdust safe to use in the peas pens?  Thanks

#17622

From: "bdfive" <bdfive@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:18 am
Subject: Re: Edgar / Peafowl in the garden

bdfive

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I'm late but want to thank you for this information.  Brunfelsia is a
beautiful flowering plant.  I read they are poisonous to dogs too so guess
all animals.  Probably won't plant any.........I may have a stupid pea that
would mistakenly eat some and will eventually get a dog.
darlene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edgar Rossal" <erossal@...>
To: <peafowl@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [peafowl] DARLENE / Peafowl in the garden

Hello Darlene!

I may think deers wont eat Brunfelsias since this plant it is poisonous in
all of its parts and all off my birds refuse them. I think animals taste a
little and left them and they also have like a sixth sense to refuse
toxicant plants.

Deers eat most of plants!! but I bet this one nop!

Check out this site for more info:

http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/brun_pau.cfm

PS: I have all my birds in the garden with 12 shrubs of brunfelsias and they
do not eat them and they had never been intoxicated either.

Edgar

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, bdfive <bdfive@...> wrote:

From: bdfive <bdfive@...>
Subject: Re: [peafowl] Edgar / Peafowl in the garden
To: peafowl@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:25 AM

Do deer eat the plants mentioned below?
thanks, darlene

From: "Edgar Rossal" <erossal@yahoo. com>

I do also have noticed wich plants they hate and do not molest at all. For
example Clivias, Brunfelsias, Bulbinellas and many others.

#17621

From: "Dorinda" <all4hobbies@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Dori Ann, Diatomaceous Earth

all4hobbies

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I think most of it is unless it is used for swimming pools. Sounds like you have
your Pea's in a happy place! We are moving ours down to their area this week
end. It will be their first time on the ground :) They have grown so fast! The
were 2 months old on the 7th and hardly fit in their cage anymore! I have
figured I have 2 boy and 1 girl. Gee, gonna have to get another hen or 2! Did
you post pics of your new aviary? Would love to see it.
Dori Ann
http://www.feelinfibers.etsy.com
http://danesandthings.blogspot.com/
Supplier of the Mach 1 Spinning Wheel and Kate,Spindles and "The Bee" travel
wheel is here!!

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From: Roger K <rk4wheeler@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Sexing White peafowl

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