i want you all to know its been along time since wild rat died, still
morning,,,i feed him from a q tip, his mother killed his sister, he was
a good rat, came when he was called, i loved him,,,apart of me died
when he died,,,,belinda, was there for me, and so was gilbert,,,my
human people, where are you now belinda,,,,where are the rat people so
important to me on this group when life got bad,,,where are you rat
people

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Animal-lovers-unite-uk/
For anyone in the UK please pop along and put your name down in the
database, if you can help in any way.
Thank you

Just been given a link to this site and i thoought i would share it
with you.
Its run by animal proffesionals and they will anser your pet related
questions,

www.whydoesmypet.com

Due to popular demand, Ratmad.com is proud to announce a new  hammock design
- the sleep 'n' hide hammock - a pocket hammock with  sleeping space on top,
and pockets to snuggle into inside.

We have a special offer on these new hammocks - buy two and get a  third
absolutely free! Treat your ratties to a lovely new bed, they're healthier  than
an easter egg and last longer!

Hurry though, this offer is only open until the end of  April!

We have had a shuffle around on the site  - bulk  bedding sets are now in
their own section so you can buy hammocks for all  your rats.

There are lots of exciting things coming within the next  few months so make
sure you join the Yahoogoup so you can find out about our  new  products
first....

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ratmad/?yguid=103071116

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We are pleased to announce the first of our charity raffles
> in aid  of rat rescues around the world. The rescue we have
> chosen to help  first is www.rattamuffinreskue.org  .They are
> based in the US and  have just taken in some very sick rats
> who need urgent medical help.  You can see pictures of these
> rats at  http://photobucket.com/albums/f297/rattamuffin - be
> warned it is very  graphic! If you have looked at the pictures
> you will agree help is  needed - you can read the story of the
> rats on the rattamuffin  website.
>
> So the raffle - we have 3 prizes up for grabs - A  Ratty T
> Shirt  - A Ratty shopping Bag - and a ratmad bedding  pack.
>
> All you have to do is go to www.ratmad.com and in the  drop
> down menu at the top you will see where to go for the raffle
> tickets. You can buy as many as you want - and if you place
> an  order at the same time we will buy you another ticket! And
> if your rats  don't need new hammocks right now - why not buy
> one for the resuke  rats? It would be lovely to be able to
> send them a huge box of  hammocks! .
>
> If paying by paypal please do not add any notes  referring to
> the raffle
> - as they don't like it! You can add  extra information when
> you buy the ticket at the website -
>
> Please send this to anyone and everyone you know to help the  rats.
>
> If you know of any rat rescues (or any small animal  rescue)
> that needs help please let us know as we will be willing to
> hold more fund raisers during the year.
>
> Raffle Will be  drawn on the Thursday 2nd March (because it is
> my mums 80th  birthday!)
>
> Bruxes and scritches
>
> Lucie  Mann
>
> For your Rats.........
> www.ratmad.com
> For  Rats and their humans everywhere.....



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For the third year running, Animal Ark veterinary centre, in Goodmayes,
Essex, UK is holding a Rat healthcare event. The previous two years were hugely
successful, and this year promises to be even better.

Three guest speakers are now confirmed, as well as the main
talk of the  day given by Lyndon Basha, MRCVS, watching a ultrasound scan of
a pregnant rat,  a rat castration and much much more.  Also don't forget that
this year  there is a prize raffle and quite a lot of food and health
supplement companies  have donated wonderful prizes (including a very large
bottle of
green mush all  the way from USA).

Everything this year is going to be even bigger than  the last year.. the
buffet, the talk is expanded to include a lot more info  including diabetes,
msra,
bird flu etc, and the items on sale at the end of  the day will be vastly
expanded as well, and there will be rat umbrellas,  shopping bags, t-shirts
and
sweatshirts, plus we're trying to arrange  for a small company who make
knitted rat accessories to come along and show you  their range of items.

So if you've attended before - welcome back and if  you've never attended..
you don't know what you're missing.. come along and  join the fun, learn all
you
need to know about your rats and see behind the  scenes at a busy veterinary
practise and view and learn things you never  knew you didn't know (huh?).

Although based just outside London, UK, this  event is not just limited to
those living in the immediate area.  It's  open to anybody who can get there
on
the day and we look forward to  seeing you there.

The vets, speakers and organisers of this event give  their time for free.
Ticket costs go towards the stationery and buffet  costs, any monies left
over is donated to the Animal Ark stray fund to help  care for injuried, sick
and
homeless pets/wildlife.

Come to the Rat  Healthcare Day on May 27 2006 in Goodmayes, Essex (UK).
For
more  info and a booking form, go to: http://members.aol.com/RHEinfo/  or
send
an SAE to:

Lora Colver
RHE2006 Booking
102 Lynn Road
ILFORD,  Essex
IG2 7DX

Copies of the Rat Surgery Film, now on VHS and DVD,  available from:
http://members.aol.com/luvallrats/



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I haven't posted in ages, so I thought I would pop in and say hi and
give an update on my crew.  Right now I have a hairless dumbo, Binky,
and a Siamese dumbo, Suey.  Both are females and doing pretty good.
Binky does have a knot on her face, but I think it's from a scratch
and am watching it.  Her and Suey fight sometimes, though nothing
major (since I don't see any scratch marks or anything other than the
spot on her face.)  Hope everyone had a good new year and their
critters are diong great.

www.Ratmad.com is proud to announce that a new website, with a brand
new store offering exciting new products for your pet Rats, as well
as Rabbits, Ferrets, Guinea Pigs and other pets will soon be going
live.

We're offering products for your pets such as bedding, cages, and
treats, as well as products for you, clothing, gifts, books, videos
and much more.

Ratmad is also working on pages on how to look after your pet rats,
including important information about sexing babies, which can be
tricky, but is actually easier than you think!


To receive regular updates on the wonderful new things happening at
Ratmad and to be the first to experience the new improved ratmad
website when it goes live, we invite you to join the Ratmad Yahoo
group, where updates can be sent to you via email or by checking the
message board.

We have a competition running at the Ratmad Yahoo group at the
moment, a winner will be picked at random from all members who join
before Sunday the 27th of November, and there is also a prize on
offer for Ratmad's 100th member, so join up to be in with a chance of
winning a four-part cage bedding set comprising of a hammock, a
ratbag, a corner hammock and a shelf hammock, worth £16.98.

Click on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ratmad/ to join, and we hope
to see you there!

In the time I've been reading posts from  various groups, I do read a
lot where people are complaining about their  vets, either because of
their vet's prices, or because their vet won't treat  rats, etc. This
has spurred me on to create a special page on my website,  specifically
for vets that are good with our ratties.
I'd appreciate it if you would all pop in and enter the details of your
*good* rat vets, so that others might use them if needed.
This applies to vets all over the world, I want to have as many
recommendations as possible on my site, in order to help as many people
and their rats as I can, so your help would be invaluable.
Please make sure to enter which country the vet is in, alongside the
address.
Please crosspost this anywhere you feel it's appropriate.
Many thanks.
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And for those of you with strong stomachs, my ratty  medical site:

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Posted on behalf of one of the organisers:

Following the success of last years Rat Healthcare Event at the
Animal Ark Veterinary Centre, another one will be held again this
year.

This event features general health information, emergency first aid
care, spotting illnesses, a section on herbal and natural treatments,
treating simple ailments yourself plus a question and answer session
with the vets and/or nurses at the practise.

Basically this course is designed to keep the need for an out-of-ours
emegency vet at bay and for you to be able to spot and treat problems
yourself until you can get to a vet during normal practise hours.
It's also designed to help you spot some problems very early on and
to treat simple things for yourself (cleaning abcesses and wounds
etc).  You get shown how to clip teeth and nails, how to make up your
own saline and rehydration fluids, what to keep in your rat first aid
box and lots more.

The event this year will be held around June (final date to be
confirmed), the price of tickets will depend on how many people
attend (the money raised through the tickets pays for Animal Ark's
fee for holding the event, provision of light refreshments
(sandwiches, snacks, salads, drinks) plus stationery requirements
(printer ink, paper, folders).  I do not make money from this
event).  The event itself is run through the Estuary Rat Club but you
do not have to be a member to attend.

Animal Ark is located in Goodmayes, Essex and is easy to reach by car
and mainline train services, (two buses required from nearest
underground station).

Anybody interested in attending should send an email to me, Lora, at
FiloFox@....  You will be sent more details nearer the time
(contacting me is not a committment to attend) including date and
time of event, number of places available and ticket price.

Whilst people who attended last year are welcome to return, they
should take note that the talk will cover the same subjects and that
priority for places will be given to those who have not attended
before (any left over places will then be offered to people who came
last year).

I was very excited to see themwith their eyes open, and running all
over the place. As of two days ago there was eight health babies, and
a stressed out Mom. I give the best of care I can to all my ratties,
including vet visits,...just for the record.  When I was changing the
bedding I counted the babies,.....only six!...They were too big to
get through the cage bars,...could Sarah have killed and eaten them?
This whole experience is getting very stressful to me.
I don't want peopl;;e thinking that I am not taking proper care of my
pets/family.
ipscman45
PS the pet store did not want them back, except as snake food.
They were going to put the babies in the freezer as snake snacks.
NO WAY!!!!!!

I of course think you should have taken her to the
vet.  Any rat with that much damage should see a vet.
I was also wondering how long the two rats lived
together?  I'm hoping you don't get anymore rats, at
least for a while since you do have the babies and
maybe can't afford vet care(?).  Also hoping you do
not get anymore rats from the place you got your
newest rats.  Sorry to hear about your rattie.  That
is truly horrible what happened to her.  I've never
had a female act like that to a rat that had babies,
though I haven't had many litters at my house (I'd do
not plan to ever have another litter, just for those
of you who don't know.)  Had they got along fine
before?  I have heard about rats getting hormonal when
and shortly after pregnancy.  I haven't heard about
another attacking a cage mate though.

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I can't believe this, but after Sarah had her babies, "Sandy" a very
calm female rat, purchased to keep my old girl Daisy company, as she
was alone and sad, suddenly attacked Daisy, ripped both of her eyes
out!!!!!! I was horrified to find this after hearing the screams from
the cages.  Sandy had given birth to eight babies, (I did not know
she was pregnant either) I would surmise she went after poor little
Daisy because of this.
I gave medical attention to Daisy, as she had been beaten up as well,
and put her in a smaller cage by her self.  When I came home much
later that day(in the evening) I came to the small cage to get her to
stay with me as we always did every night.  Daisy had her head
resting on her food bowl, but when she heard me, and smelled my
hands, with all the effort she had left, scampered onto my hands,
then as high as she could climb up my arm to "whisker kiss" me under
the chin,....then she dropped her head as her body went limp and died.
.....She waited for me to come home to say "goodbye" in her rattie
way.
Again, I was in tears, as I put another loving family member to rest.
For the score,...my last two female ratties went to the Rainbow
Bridge, Two new females had eight babies each, and for all I know,
the last female purchase to keep Sarah company might be pregnant as
well.
I have had it, my nerves are shot. And some people don't understand
to details of how all of this happened. The pet store manager is
irresponsible.
ipscman45

If you have a good vet you could get them spayed if
the babies aren't real old yet.  Or you could take
them back to the pet store you got them from.  I know
how hard that would be, but if you are unable to care
for that many rats it's an idea.  After these rats I'd
either stick to males or only get females from someone
you can trust that hasn't had them in with a male.

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--- In rattastical@yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" <flambled@y...> wrote:
>
> In my experience I kept the females together.  They never hurt each
> other.  If they are fighting though it would be best to seperate
> them, of course.  Make sure mom has plenty of protien and try
> putting something soft for her to make a nest with.  Avoid cotton
> and anything stringy to be on the safe side.  I gave mine paper
> towels and toilet paper.  Plus Carefresh bedding which is kinda
> soft.  Make sure you seperate the males from the females around 4
> weeks old (don't want anymore babies).  If you cage has bars make
> sure the spacing is very small, don't want a baby to fall through
or
> get hung.  A tank would be good to keep the mother and babies in if
> possible.  Also try to hold the babies a little bit everyday.
Might
> want to wait a couple days for the mom to calm down a bit though.
> If you need anything feel free to post it or mail me.  Congrats on
> the babies!
>
>Thank you for the reply,...I can't get near either the two females
or the babies. As soon as I open the cage, I get attacked by the both
of them!
I also found out that the other two female ratties from the same tank
which I purchased may be pregnant as well.(Oh God)
It seems the fools put two young males in with all those young
females for a time (long enough!)
I had just gone through the loss of my other ratties which I loved
dearly,...that is why the new bunch is here....they are my only
companions,....but they are cranky!!!
ipscman45

To whom it may concern:

I have decided to leave this group for three reasons.

1. This group is not very active anymore. I do appreciate the wealth
of knowledge and kindness some of you have provided.

2. Someone on this group had me take in 10 rats because this person
is "disabled" and could not care for them anymore (I will not even
comment on the shape the rats were in when I got them) and now one
of
their rats has had babies? This sickens me.

3. A rat murderer who has been banned from many rat lists and groups
continues to run a "shelter" of horrors where he (untrained)
continues to perform horrible surgeries on the rats himself. He has
stated on many lists that he kills some of the rats when he is
overwhelmed.

Proof of #3 can be found in many archives of many of the other rat
lists and groups. I have also had conversations with this person
over the phone and was privy to certain information so in no way is
this just a rumor.

James,

     Give me a call if you can and I will help you out. This group is not
that busy anymore.

     Just so you know I am not holding any grudges against you where to
transport of the 175 is concerned, not at all.

     Further it is just me running the rescue so the irresponsible person who
had a habit of screwing up things are gone not to mention any names.

Gilbert


Phoenix Rodentry & Rescue Center, Inc.
2470 Old Highway 16
Jefferson, NC  28640

24 Hour Emergency Lines
336-982-3228 home or 336-982-4693 cell

Thro' many dangers, toils and snares,
We have already come;
'Tis grace has brought us safe thus far,
And grace will lead us home.


----- Original Message -----
From: "ipscman45" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: <rattastical@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: [rattastical] I'm a Father!


>
>
> It's a long story, one filled with terrible loss, now my new
> little "cranky" female rattie from the pet store just now gave birth
> to seven babies,...one died, the littlest one.
> What do I do?
> I have her cagemate in with her, a female, perhaps even her
> sister,from the same litter in with them all.  When I tried to put my
> hand in to remove her, she ran towards Mom and got bit! then Mom ran
> towards me and I got bit!(alot).
> What should I do? They are identical twins, and I can't tell them
> apart,...one is "Sarah" and the other is "Samantha"
> Ipscman45
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In my experience I kept the females together.  They never hurt each
other.  If they are fighting though it would be best to seperate
them, of course.  Make sure mom has plenty of protien and try
putting something soft for her to make a nest with.  Avoid cotton
and anything stringy to be on the safe side.  I gave mine paper
towels and toilet paper.  Plus Carefresh bedding which is kinda
soft.  Make sure you seperate the males from the females around 4
weeks old (don't want anymore babies).  If you cage has bars make
sure the spacing is very small, don't want a baby to fall through or
get hung.  A tank would be good to keep the mother and babies in if
possible.  Also try to hold the babies a little bit everyday.  Might
want to wait a couple days for the mom to calm down a bit though.
If you need anything feel free to post it or mail me.  Congrats on
the babies!


--- In rattastical@yahoogroups.com, ipscman45 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> It's a long story, one filled with terrible loss, now my new
> little "cranky" female rattie from the pet store just now gave
birth
> to seven babies,...one died, the littlest one.
> What do I do?
> I have her cagemate in with her, a female, perhaps even her
> sister,from the same litter in with them all.  When I tried to put
my
> hand in to remove her, she ran towards Mom and got bit! then Mom
ran
> towards me and I got bit!(alot).
> What should I do? They are identical twins, and I can't tell them
> apart,...one is "Sarah" and the other is "Samantha"
> Ipscman45

It's a long story, one filled with terrible loss, now my new
little "cranky" female rattie from the pet store just now gave birth
to seven babies,...one died, the littlest one.
What do I do?
I have her cagemate in with her, a female, perhaps even her
sister,from the same litter in with them all.  When I tried to put my
hand in to remove her, she ran towards Mom and got bit! then Mom ran
towards me and I got bit!(alot).
What should I do? They are identical twins, and I can't tell them
apart,...one is "Sarah" and the other is "Samantha"
Ipscman45

Hello,

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How to treat a tumour!

Apologies for the extensive crosspost, I'm posting this to every rat
group and newsgroup that I know, just to try and get the message
across, I hope you understand my reasons.

How many times have you read on a group that someone's rat has been
put to sleep because of a tumour? Upsetting isn't it. Not only is it
disgusting that a vet would put an otherwise healthy animal to sleep,
but it's infuriating to read when you know something can be done.

I thought I should write something about my personal experience with
tumour removal, and what I know of non-surgical treatment in the hope
that it could help someone else's rat. I'm NOT a vet, and it's always
best to seek the advice of your vet before acting on anyone's advice.

First of all, you should know that a tumour is NOT an instant death
sentence for a rat. Most lumps that rats develop are benign (not
cancerous) and can easily be removed.

The first piece of advice that I would like to offer is that you
should ALWAYS make a point of having them removed when the lump is
still small if at all possible. The larger they get, the longer the
rat may have to stay under the anaesthetic meaning more danger to the
rat, and the larger the incision would be, meaning more stitches and
more discomfort for the rat. It's just best to have them out sooner
rather than later. Also, never attempt the surgery yourself, this can
lead to infection which can become very deep and kill.

When you find a lump on your rat, can you be sure it's a tumour?
Could it be an abscess? You need to work that out for starters.
Abscesses can occur anywhere. They're usually but not always caused
by an opening of the skin, through a scratch or bite, that bacteria
has got into, then the wound has closed over it, so the bacteria
festers and creates pus, which causes a swelling under the skin.
These should ideally be treated by a vet, opened, kept open and
cleaned with saline solution (NOT Hydrogen peroxide), and antibiotics
should be given. But I digress.....

Once you're sure your rat does have a tumour, where do you go from
there? Well, as long as your vet is experienced in rat surgery, then
it's quite a straightforward procedure to remove a tumour. As I said
before, most are benign and without much of a blood supply, so it can
be as easy as making a small incision (as long as the tumour is still
small) and popping the lump straight out, then closing with a couple
of stitches. Voila, your rat is delumped!

Complications are rare and the vet will usually know if they are
likely before surgery, although there is always a risk when putting
any animal under anaesthetic. Thankfully most tumour removals take
only a matter of a few minutes.

Complications that can arise are things like the tumour having grown
around an organ, being attached to an organ, or being caused by bone
cancer. Even in those extreme cases, if your vet is good enough,
something can be done.

If your rat is elderly, or has respiratory problems, the vet will
probably not want to operate which leaves you with the idea that
nothing can be done and your beloved pet will eventually have to be
put to sleep. This is NOT the case.

My vet introduced me to a wonderful natural treatment called Mycoplex
Coriolus, which is made from the Coriolus (also known as Turkey Tail)
mushroom. I've used this many times and have had excellent results
with it. It can either slow growth of the tumour, buying time for
recovery from, say, a respiratory infection, so that surgery is
possible, it can stop growth completely, or it has been known to
force the tumour into remission. Nobody is quite sure why it works,
but the way it works is by starving the tumour of it's blood supply,
thereby killing it. Needless to say, the less of a rich blood supply
the tumour has, the less effective Mycoplex will be. In some cases
when there is no blood supply, Mycoplex will not work at all, but
these cases are less frequent. Mycoplex has usually done something
for my rats, however small the effect, and can work against both
benign and malignant tumours. It can work of both benign and
malignant tumours and although it won't actually shrink existing
fatty lumps, it can slow their growth.

Although I've never used it myself, Mycoplex Coriolus can be used in
conjunction with Maxigen 2, (sometimes called Maxigen II) which is
shark cartilage, it works by boosting the effects of the Mycoplex.

Both of these are natural treatments, and cannot be overdosed on, so
are completely safe for your rat. In fact Mycoplex is also used to
boost the body's natural immunity, so is beneficial in other ways as
well.

Mycoplex is also very good to use after the tumour has been
surgically removed, to prevent regrowth. Ideally the Mycoplex should
be started while the tumour is still small for the best effects to be
possible, although I have had some positive results on reasonably
large tumours.

Mycoplex Coriolus can be bought online from here:

http://www.animalsnaturally.com/mofcart/mycoplex.htm
http://www.vitabest.ca/MRL/index.html
http://www.aneid.pt/mrl/products01.html

Further information about Mycoplex can be found here:

http://www.vetsonline.com/html/veterinary_news_article.asp?
ID=786&DType=Veterinary

And here:

http://www.jhsnp.com/store/about_coriolus.html

Maxigen 2 (or II), also known as Shark Cartilage, can be bought here:

http://www.thomasveterinarydrug.com/mailorder/catalog/advanced_search_
result.php?keywords=shark+cartilage

http://www.auravita.com/products/aura/PHAR16645.asp?RefId=800

http://www.solgar.co.uk/modules/shop/view.asp?catid=18&Prodcode=E2600

In the UK, it is sold at the health food shop, Holland and Barrett.

Doseages are as follows:

Mycoplex:

Initially, for the first two weeks of treatment to give a boost, one
quarter of a tablet should be given twice a day, reducing to one
quarter or one fifth of a tablet once a day for the life of the
tumour or rat.

Maxigen:
Should be given alongside the Mycoplex, at a dose of one seventh of a
740mg capsule once a day.

Once the tumour has died, the Maxigen can be stopped completely, and
the dosage of Mycoplex can be reduced to a maintenance dose of one
tenth of a tablet once a day. If the tumour has been surgically
removed, this is also the dose of Mycoplex to help prevent regrowth.
If regrowth or new growth in a different area occurs, then the dose
of Mycoplex is returned to one fifth once a day, and the Maxigen is
restarted at one seventh of a capsule once a day.

The Mycoplex should be crushed into powder, and divided into doses,
each dose then mixed along with the Maxigen (if you're going to give
that as well), into something tasty for the rat. I've used the
following which have all been readily yummed up by my rats:

Strawberry milkshake
Strawberry syrup
Chocolate syrup
Melted ice cream
Chocolate spread

You get the idea. If it's something that they'd consider a huge
treat, then you only need a small amount on the tip of a spoon, just
enough to disguise the powder in, and they'll fall upon it with great
relish.

The only downside to the use of Mycoplex, is that if a tumour dies,
sometimes an abscess will form in it's place, but these are easily
cared for at home, as I indicated at the beginning of this document,
or can easily and cheaply be treated by your vet. Plus the fact that
they're a lot easier to deal with at home than tumours!


I hope you've found this document helpful, I've also uploaded it to
the files section of this group in the hope that it will save
someone`s rat from an unnecessary death. Please save it to your hard
drive if you like, redistribute it as much as you like, I'm all for
spreading the word, as these inexpensive products can save your rat's
life, or certainly extend it.

I have a website which shows tumours after removal, it contains very
graphic images of tumours, and other such things that I've had
removed from my rats, or my friends' rats, but could help you better
understand what it is you're dealing with.

This site can be found at:

http://www.freewebs.com/miscrats/


Many thanks for reading this, and remember, these animals rely on us
to give them the best care possible, don't give up on them!

Bev x

Owner of Clubrats 2, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/clubrats2/

(bevluvsrats@...)

(All web addresses correct at time of writing, 13th November 2004)

Yeah she's fine now. There are lots of stitches though.
                        Candice--- In rattastical@yahoogroups.com,
Belinda <flambled@y...> wrote:
>
> Good luck with his Surgery.  I have had a few tumors
> removed from a couple girls and they all pulled
> through fine.
>
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Good luck with his Surgery.  I have had a few tumors
removed from a couple girls and they all pulled
through fine.

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My 2 year old rat, Sydney, is having a tumor removed on Tuesday.
       CAndice

--- In rattastical@yahoogroups.com, "wildflower14215"
<wildflower14215@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I found a really good syringe for feeding orphans, from newborns on.
It's called "Monoject 412". It is fairly big- at least a 1/2" in
diameter but with a long, curved tip that is so fine on the end it can
EASILY fit into a baby's mouth.
>
> A wildlife rehabber at the SPCA gave me a few when I was struggling
to find something suitable to use to feed the last litter of orphans
(actually the mother abandoned them).
>
> I wouldn't know where to find more of these though.  If anybody's
interested, I'll contact the SPCA wildlife person to ask for a source
unless someone here knows where to get them..???
>
> Then I found another very unlikely but excellent "dispenser"--the
syringe you use to shoot air into printer ink cartridges when you
refill them.  The syringe comes with the inkjet refill kit. Again, the
tip is tiny (but short) & of course, no ink gets on or in the "thing".
> -Pon

Perhaps a hobby supply shop, online or in a mall.  People use the mono
ject for glue dispensing,....good luck Wildflower.
ipscman45

--- In rattastical@yahoogroups.com, "wildflower14215"
<wildflower14215@y...> wrote:
>  Dear Ipscman,
> Congratulations on getting rid of the lice!  Keep up the good work!
  Your post shows how you suffered with the little ones.
> So sorry about the loss of the twin!  -Pon


Thank you,...it was an ordeal for all of us! But knowing about one
more thing to watch for, in protecting the little ones, helps.
ipscman45

They have been living in the same cage for a bit now
and finally I saw them cuddling.  I hadn't seen them
sleep together or groom each other the whole time they
lived together until a couple days ago.  I am so glad.
  They used to sleep on different levels. Now both
sleep all cuddled up and I saw them grooming each
other.  I was beginning to worry that they didn't like
each other.  They didn't fight, they just ignored each
other for the longest time.

I hope everyone's ratties are doing great!

=====
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homes. Spay or neuter your pets.





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Hi,
I found a really good syringe for feeding orphans, from newborns on. It's called
"Monoject 412". It is fairly big- at least a 1/2" in diameter but with a long,
curved tip that is so fine on the end it can EASILY fit into a baby's mouth.

A wildlife rehabber at the SPCA gave me a few when I was struggling to find
something suitable to use to feed the last litter of orphans (actually the
mother abandoned them).

I wouldn't know where to find more of these though.  If anybody's interested,
I'll contact the SPCA wildlife person to ask for a source unless someone here
knows where to get them..???

Then I found another very unlikely but excellent "dispenser"--the syringe you
use to shoot air into printer ink cartridges when you refill them.  The syringe
comes with the inkjet refill kit. Again, the tip is tiny (but short) & of
course, no ink gets on or in the "thing".
-Pon

Dear Ipscman,
Congratulations on getting rid of the lice!  Keep up the good work!  Your post
shows how you suffered with the little ones.
So sorry about the loss of the twin!  -Pon

rmca.org has some good info and
http://ratguide.com/care/ is also a good site incase you never
visitied those.  Glad to hear your babies are doing better.  I have
my two girls in the same cage now.  They only power groomed each
other once.  They don't seem to care alot for each other though.
One usually stays on one level and the other on the other level.  I
am looking for one more girl.  I am going to get a female hairless
dumbo (someday soon I hope).  Have a great day!



--- In rattastical@yahoogroups.com, ipscman45 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I tried to join the Yahoo hoo rat fan club, to get helpful
> information, and they make you tell them in a limited number of
words
> why you should be allowed to be a member,...then put you on the
> "pending" list.
> I then got a personal email supposedly fro the group person in
charge
> of deciding who gets in, ..and she told me to send specific
> information,...personal information, addres etc. and that she had
to
> ask because of "A new yahoo rule" well I gave all the info,
stateing
> that I hope it is held confidential,...and I got kicked off the
list!!!!!!
> ASAP.
> I think that when someone has a genuine interest in helping
ratties,
> they should be able to acess the help!...So much for that "group"
> I am very angry, because I was trying to get help for my little
girls.
> ipscman45
> PS they want to make you pay for their newsletter as
well,...forced,
> or no member.