Here is one that USED to be in the large dog area (until they changed the
rules) that I would really like to see added

No spike collars.

Reason, a few years ago a Boston terrier got into a scrap with a large mutt in
the big run. The spiked collar the large dog was wearing tore open the
bostons eye. He lost it then it proceeded to infect his brain and the dog
eventually died.

Spiked collars are unnecesssary in the small dog area and a hazard to
bulging eye breeds. Their purpose is to prevent other dogs from biting the
necks during a fight. Since there will be no fights and the spiked collars pose
a risk to bulging eye breeds during play, I would like to see spiked collars
banned. I am not talking about studded collars but instead the kind that have
sharp tipped spikes.

Please add no spiked collars to the list.

--- In smalldogrunfolks@y..., "Heather Malin" <heather@m...> wrote:
> Below are the rules that are about to go up on a large, permanent sign
> at the entrance of the Small Dog Run.  Please contact me with questions
> or concerns ASAP.  We're hoping to have the sign done in the next few
> days.
>
> THE RULES:
>
> 1.This run is for SMAll BREEDS ONLY (under 20lbs)
> (No large breed puppies please)
> 2. No people without dogs. No dogs without people.
> 3.Clean up after your dog.
> 4.No dog toys.
> 5.No children unaccompanied by an adult.
> 6.Watch for pestering and aggressive behavior.
> 7.No communicable diseases and no dogs in heat.
> 8.All dogs must be licensed and immunized.
> 9.No glass containers or food.
> 10.If injury from fighting occurs, exchange information BEFORE LEAVING
>
> If your dog is used to playing with larger dogs please be
> diligent in ensuring gentle play.

I especially agree with the weight and food clauses of the rules.  Perhaps
there should be a bone exclusion clause?

I've just returned from a trip to L.A.  Here's something that may be of
interest,  how the rules are posted @ the Silverlake, CA Small Dog Run:

"-Dog defecation must be removed by dog owners.
-Vicious or uncontrollable animals are not permitted to be at large at any
time.
-All dogs over 4 months old shall have proof of licensing and vaccination.
-For animal safety,  no dogs under 4 months of age permitted.
-Dogs with dangerous or communicable diseases are not allowed on premesis at
any time.
-Dog owners must stop dogs from digging holes and fill in any damage that
occurs.
-Dog owners must quiet their barking dogs or remove them from park premesis.
-Off-leash dogs must remain within the designated fence area.
-Off-leash dogs must be accompanied by their owner at all times.
-Off-leash dogs must be under owner voice control at all times.
-No more than three (3) dogs per owner are permitted off-leash at one time."

What do y'all think o'  them apples?

-Rebecca

Dear Friends,

Our Community Board meets the evening of August 6th  at 6.30 pm.  The
location:
Jasa/Green Residence,  200 East 5th Street.  I will sign us up,  if allowed,
  to deliver an outline of our need for our own permanent and separate space
from First Run,  in our neck of the woods.

I hope to see you there.

Sincerely,
Rebecca (Sal)

hi -- I'm visiting NY later this month with my very mini (10 lbs)
schnauzer, Maggie, so I was overjoyed to find your group!  I'm so
happy there is a place for me to take her with only small dogs --
thank you for creating this place!

Since I feel I can trust that you all are good, responsible dog
people (to have worked so hard to create this dog run), I thought
it would be a good place to ask...  We may need to leave Maggie
behind when we visit some places.  Does anyone here know of
petsitters that you trust and would highly recommend?  I know
about the professional organizations (petsitters.org, petsit.com),
but personal recommendations are more valuable to me.  If this
is off-topic for this group, please email me directly, at minnanne
@ yahoo.com.

Thanks!  And if you see a tiny schnauzer with huge ears at your
dog run Aug 19 - Aug 21, she's with me.  :)

Anne in CA

How about adding the following to Clean up after your dog:

Clean up after your dog (and yourself - this means cigarette butts!)

 Heather Malin wrote:

Below are the rules that are about to go up on a large, permanent sign
at the entrance of the Small Dog Run.  Please contact me with questions
or concerns ASAP.  We're hoping to have the sign done in the next few
days.

THE RULES:

1.This run is for SMAll BREEDS ONLY (under 20lbs)
(No large breed puppies please)
2. No people without dogs. No dogs without people.
3.Clean up after your dog.
4.No dog toys.
5.No children unaccompanied by an adult.
6.Watch for pestering and aggressive behavior.
7.No communicable diseases and no dogs in heat.
8.All dogs must be licensed and immunized.
9.No glass containers or food.
10.If injury from fighting occurs, exchange information BEFORE LEAVING

If your dog is used to playing with larger dogs please be
diligent in ensuring gentle play.





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Below are the rules that are about to go up on a large, permanent sign
at the entrance of the Small Dog Run.  Please contact me with questions
or concerns ASAP.  We're hoping to have the sign done in the next few
days.

THE RULES:

1.This run is for SMAll BREEDS ONLY (under 20lbs)
(No large breed puppies please)
2. No people without dogs. No dogs without people.
3.Clean up after your dog.
4.No dog toys.
5.No children unaccompanied by an adult.
6.Watch for pestering and aggressive behavior.
7.No communicable diseases and no dogs in heat.
8.All dogs must be licensed and immunized.
9.No glass containers or food.
10.If injury from fighting occurs, exchange information BEFORE LEAVING

If your dog is used to playing with larger dogs please be
diligent in ensuring gentle play.

Hi all!

http://www.thebark.com/classic_site/public_html/hitech/index.html

and of course there is this article i have yet to read but concerns dog
parks...

http://www.thebark.com/classic_site/public_html/new/dogpark1.html

enjoy!

~Lena and Looper

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please clean up after your dog!  i cleaned alot of small dog poop under the
benches this am! not pleasant in this heat!

I wish you all the luck with your small breed dog run.


  -----Original Message-----
From: lynnpax@... [mailto:lynnpax@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM
To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [smalldogrunfolks] Topics of discussion



You wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:42:10 -0400 "Reeves, Laura (IBK-NY)"
<lreeves@...> writes:

<At what point do we get to govern over our own dogs and stop being

treated like someone is doing us a favor?>



The problem is that dog owners let the city treat us badly:

According to the NYC Parks Dept. web site, the city pays $41 per person to parks
& recreation from it's budget.

This mean that the city's dog owners (conservatively 1 out of 8 New Yorkers)
have been subsidizing the recreational needs of ballplayers & parents as dog
owners get very little land & no moneys.

For instance, the possibility of field turfing Sereveli park field (Hudson St.)
was on the agenda at the last CB2 parks com meeting.

At least 25 ball players (all men) showed up to protest.

Ball players were still arriving at the end of the meeting - they could not all
fit into the CB2 conference room. By showing up in force and speaking out ball
players made a decisive impression on the
parks com. Plus many brought copies of letters they had written to officials in
protest of the proposed field turf.

I'm on the west side of the village where there is no public run at all. But
when we ask dog owners to go to meetings 2 or 3 show up & requests for letters
to the community board in support of a run
resulted in 2 letters.

There are many more dog owners than ball players but there is probably 50 ball
court/fields for every dog run, not only in this city but around the country.
(We let this happen.)

Owners of sm dogs (it is estimated that there are 2 sm dogs for every lg. dog in
the city) are additionally penalized for not having a large dog as they have
had, up till now, only 1 run (Carl Schurz
Pk) for sm dogs (where it is safe to bring a sm dog.)

In Washington Sq. we want a run for sm dogs separate and away from the lg. run.
It will have it's own board and rules.

That is if we can get enough dog owners to show up for the CB2 parks com meeting
in Sept when we will ask for a resolution in support of adding a run for sm dogs
in Wash Sq. & then again at the CB2
full board meeting where we hope to get the resolution passed.


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At what point do we get to govern over our own dogs and stop being treated
like someone is doing us a favor?

Good question.

-----Original Message-----
From: Angelgrrl@... [mailto:Angelgrrl@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:19 PM
To: terryt@...; smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [smalldogrunfolks] Topics of discussion


Lori and Squid here. Sorry I missed a full day of the great dog toy debate.
Well I have to back up Terry and Duke here and say I find it a bit
unreasonable to not be able to  throw a ball to Squid. ....though we WERE
trying.
BUT the fact that the subject has been closed and we have no say is
overwhelming.
At what point do we get to govern over our own dogs and stop being treated
like someone is doing us a favor?






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Lori and Squid here. Sorry I missed a full day of the great dog toy debate.
Well I have to back up Terry and Duke here and say I find it a bit
unreasonable to not be able to  throw a ball to Squid. ....though we WERE
trying.
BUT the fact that the subject has been closed and we have no say is
overwhelming.
At what point do we get to govern over our own dogs and stop being treated
like someone is doing us a favor?

Hello all.....I'm so happy with our little space...and so too are our
little friends...

Just a note to reiterate the no toys rule. I was in the run with just
Grubby and feeling a little bored, I took out her little ball to
throw a few times(knowing I was bending the rules). Carol saw and
came over to reprimand me and deservedly so. It was hard enough for
them to establish the no toys rule on the big side and to have the
small side abusing it is trouble for them.....so..

If toys are your thing with your pooch please play with them outside
the run...before you come in, or introduce them to bark chip fetching.

I apologize to Carol and Gunnar for being careless about the rule.
Having a no toys rule is a small price to pay for our new freedom.

On another note...I've found a few cigarette butts on the
ground...some dogs like to eat them so lets keep them in the provided
ashtray tins. We only have two at the moment so everbody keep an eye
out for tins that we can add to our ashtray collection.

Working on the sign...going to post it on the site for review in the
next day or so.

See you,
Nici(Grub)

> From: "Reeves, Laura (IBK-NY)" <lreeves@...>
> Reply-To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:12:46 -0400
> To: "'smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com'" <smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [smalldogrunfolks] Topics of discussion
>
> However, if in fact certain concessions were agreed upon before we even
> got the run (such as the rules being the same in both runs) and these
> certain concessions have to be upheld to keep...

Just to be clear, the First Run rules are just the minimum -- the
rules don't have to be identical.  If you folks decide on additional
rules, like a ban on large breed puppies, or people with striped pants,
etc. it's entirely within your power.

-Gunnar

Dear All-

There has been some discussion of toys in the Small Dog Run.  Here is
the deal:

THERE ARE NO TOYS ALLOWED.  IF THE BIG DOG RUN PEOPLE SEE TOYS IN THE
RUN, THEY WILL TAKE DOWN THE FENCE.

Please don't jeopardize the small run.

Thanks,
Heather

I for one STRONGLY agree that large breed puppies should NOT be allowed in the
small breed dog run.  I think it is just common sense not to bring any puppy
around other dogs if the puppies hasn't had
their shots yet.  But even after the large breed puppies have had their shots I
still don't think it is safe for the large breed puppies to be around small
breeds.  I am afraid that the large breed
puppies will play too rough for small dogs, especially if the small dog as an
adult is only 4 pounds or so.  I also understand the point both sides are making
on the toy issue.  Before we had the
small breed run at this park I used to take my dog to the run at Madison Sq. Pk.
I noticed the rules posted at that run were different then the rules at First
Run.  So yes, I think each run could
have it's own set of rules.  I understand that the big dogs might be tempted to
jump the fence if they saw toys.  No one at the small breed run wants that.  But
the idea of a fence that the big dogs
can't see through is a good idea.  However, if in fact certain concessions were
agreed upon before we even got the run (such as the rules being the same in both
runs) and these certain concessions
have to be upheld to keep the run then I guess it would be better to maintain
the agreement and keep the run.  No sense throwing the baby out with the bath
water.  It does seem unfair that we have to
be governed by the large breed rules when the large breeds aren't allowed in the
small breed run.  But I like the run enough to make a compromise on the toy
issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: terrytowery10009 [mailto:terryt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:17 AM
To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [smalldogrunfolks] Topics of discussion


Please let us know what else is not to be discussed. I didn't realize we were
under the direct jurisdiction of the large dog run administration.

Monay set the "no toys" rule almost ten years ago, there was no discussion. I
agree that the larger dogs were fighting over the toys. Since other parks allow
toys it seems worthy of discussion. The rules in the big dog run have evolved
and changed. I notice that "the no bitches in heat" rule is gone. Small dogs
ARE different, hence the need for separation. Most of us know each other
already and know that our dogs do NOT fight over toys. I offered reasonable
solutions to prevent jealousy from the large dogs. of course we can't discuss it
now that the topic is closed.

What other rules are there on this sign? can we discuss that? I believe that
puppies of large breeds should not be in the dog run at all, even the small
dog area. Many first time dog owners may think that since there is an area for
small dogs they can bring their puppy into it before it is fully inoculated and
trained. This is not safe for either the puppy or our adult small dogs since
they
may have diseases. Anybody disagree?





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Please let us know what else is not to be discussed. I didn't realize we were
under the direct jurisdiction of the large dog run administration.

Monay set the "no toys" rule almost ten years ago, there was no discussion. I
agree that the larger dogs were fighting over the toys. Since other parks allow
toys it seems worthy of discussion. The rules in the big dog run have evolved
and changed. I notice that "the no bitches in heat" rule is gone. Small dogs
ARE different, hence the need for separation. Most of us know each other
already and know that our dogs do NOT fight over toys. I offered reasonable
solutions to prevent jealousy from the large dogs. of course we can't discuss it
now that the topic is closed.

What other rules are there on this sign? can we discuss that? I believe that
puppies of large breeds should not be in the dog run at all, even the small
dog area. Many first time dog owners may think that since there is an area for
small dogs they can bring their puppy into it before it is fully inoculated and
trained. This is not safe for either the puppy or our adult small dogs since
they
may have diseases. Anybody disagree?

We finally have a legitimate small dog run now (got approved for the space and put up the fence at the big dog run last thursday!)  We have our own gate and we are getting more good stuff soon.  Go check it out!

  JenJen269@... wrote:

Hi-
i have a small dog in the neighborhood (10th st/ave A)---and have no idea
what is going on.
Nor does anybody else I meet with a small dog in the neighborhood.
Now that the small unofficial dog-runs are sealed off, lets all get together
and really get this thing going. Please let me know what's happened so far
and let's all be organized. I signed a petition 2 years ago and have heard
nothing since.
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HI!  I AM TAZ AND CORONA'S   MOM,  I KNOW WE NEED $$$ TO KEEP OUR RUN
AND TO BETTER IT, SO WHO HAS IDEAS FOR THIS?   MY IDEAS ARE;
1)TO APPROACH ALL THE PETSHOPS IN THE AREA WHERE WE SHOP AND ASK THEM
TO GIVE BACK A LITTLE.   SHOULD WE FIND A WAY TO THANK THEM , MAYBE
JUST A NOTE POSTED AT THE RUN ON  A WEEKLY BASIS TO SAY THANK YOU TO
THE FOLLOWING BUSINESS ETC....
    2)I ALSO THOUGHT SOME TYPE OF BENEFIT SALE WOULD BE FUN.  WHERE
WOULD WE HAVE IT AND WHAT SHOULD WE SELL?
   3) MAYBE A DOGWASH(LIKE A CARWASH).....FUN, BUT PROBABLY
UNREALISTIC.
PLEASE SHARE ANY CREATIVE THOUGHTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON TH

> From: "Heather Malin" <heather@...>
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:30:18 -0400
> To: <smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [smalldogrunfolks] Re: Rules
>
> As time passes, if it seems appropriate, we can revisit it.

I think this sounds great.  Thanks for understanding.
Again, it's excellent to have a forum to work these things out.

-Gunnar

I understand where you are coming from.  And I agree that the rules are
the rules for a reason and we will respect that.  So, the issue of toys is now
officially dropped.

As time passes, if it seems appropriate, we can revisit it.

Thanks, Gunnar, for your input.

And yes - we all love the new "this way to the entrance" sign.  Gyda
(Joey's Mom) was kind enough to make it.  She's also working on the new,
permanent, laminated rules sign for the door.  And yes, it has all the
same rules as the big run (as well as a "Small Breeds Only" clause).

-Heather


-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Hellekson [mailto:ghelleks@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 4:11 PM
To: smalldogrunfolks
Subject: Re: [smalldogrunfolks] Re: Rules


> From: "hmalin" <heather@...>
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:46:58 -0000
> To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [smalldogrunfolks] Re: Rules
>
> Absolutely.  There will be no unilateral action - wow, that sounds
> like something you say about a nulear arms treaty!

Yeah, I was hoping for a less dramatic word, but that's all I could
muster.

> Gunnar - how do you feel about the visual barrier solution?  Tell us
> a bit more about your objection to toys on our side.

The objection is not to the substance of the "yes-toys/no-toys" issue,
but
with that fact that it is up for discussion at all.  Our rules
have been hammered out over time, and we feel confident that they
benefit
all First Run users.  Selling the small dog run to the First Run users
was
an effort, and its success was predicated, among other things, on both
areas having a common set of rules.

Let me stress that this isn't only about integrity and keeping promises;
it's also about our ability to enforce our own rules.  Enforcement is
difficult under the best circumstances, and will become even harder if
there is an "exceptional" area where those rules don't apply.

As a side note, I want to compliment your sign-maker.  They're a welcome
change from the regulation green-and-white.

-Gunnar



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> From: "hmalin" <heather@...>
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:46:58 -0000
> To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [smalldogrunfolks] Re: Rules
>
> Absolutely.  There will be no unilateral action - wow, that sounds
> like something you say about a nulear arms treaty!

Yeah, I was hoping for a less dramatic word, but that's all I could muster.

> Gunnar - how do you feel about the visual barrier solution?  Tell us
> a bit more about your objection to toys on our side.

The objection is not to the substance of the "yes-toys/no-toys" issue, but
with that fact that it is up for discussion at all.  Our rules
have been hammered out over time, and we feel confident that they benefit
all First Run users.  Selling the small dog run to the First Run users was
an effort, and its success was predicated, among other things, on both
areas having a common set of rules.

Let me stress that this isn't only about integrity and keeping promises;
it's also about our ability to enforce our own rules.  Enforcement is
difficult under the best circumstances, and will become even harder if
there is an "exceptional" area where those rules don't apply.

As a side note, I want to compliment your sign-maker.  They're a welcome
change from the regulation green-and-white.

-Gunnar

First I would like to thank you for all the effort put
into getting a space for our little ones.  I'm glad
Shnoofie and I were passing by when you're working, so
I still had a chance to do something.

I love the idea of allowing dog toys.  People already
play fetch with pieces of wood from the floor, which
are unsafe, not to mention unattractive.  I would help
with the costs of the fence.









--- Heather Malin <heather@...> wrote:
> Yes, Terry, this is an important issue.  From my
> discussions with folks,
> there is some disagreement on what people are
> comfortable with.
>
> The main issue is the big dogs on the other side of
> the fence.  I think
> the visual barrier is a good solution to that.  If
> people want to get
> the materials, I'm sure plenty of folks would help
> put it up.  One
> important note: the park insists that any fencing we
> put up be green, so
> the netting (or whatever we use) has to be as close
> to the color of the
> fence as possible.  I think that's not too hard to
> find - I saw some
> green netting at the hardware store the other day.
>
> Another issue is fighting on our side, which could
> be a problem.  My
> opinion is that people need to be vigilant about
> fighting - toys or no
> toys.
>
> Finally, there's the problem of safety - small toys
> that are fine for
> teeny dogs can be chewed and swallowed by bigger
> (but still small) dogs.
> I've heard of dogs who have had serious health
> problems from
> eating/swallowing small toys.
>
> That said, I like the idea of allowing toys.  Dogs
> like toys and I like
> dogs to be happy.  And I know many small dog run
> people would like to
> have toys in the run.  So, I propose a trial, with
> the following
> stipulations:
>
> -Install a visual barrier on the fence
> -No small toys that could be swallowed
> -No leaving toys in the run (take them home when you
> leave)
> -If there is any fighting over a toy, take it away
> immediately
>
> How do people feel about that?  We could try it for
> a week or so (before
> the sign is done) and see how it works.  That would
> mean getting the
> netting up ASAP so we can see how it goes and not
> delay the sign-making
> (which is a top priority).
>
> -Heather
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terrytowery10009 [mailto:terryt@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:25 AM
> To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [smalldogrunfolks] Rules
>
>
>
> First of all it is great to have a place where we
> can go without fear of
> the man.
> Thanks to all who did the work. I was on vacation at
> the time or would
> have
> been there myself.
>
> The welcome message mentioned that rules were being
> drawn up and that
> they would be posted. Shouldn't we discuss these
> rules before a
> laminated
> sign is made. I, for one, want to be able to throw a
> toy for Duke.
> Otherwise the
> whole point of the dog run is moot to him and me. I
> know that there are
> others
> out there who would also like to be able to play a
> game of fetch in the
> park
> with their dogs. If the issue is the large dogs then
> I have two
> suggestions:
>
> 1. Put up a visual barrier. The mesh screens used in
> tennis courts would
> work
> but I am sure there are other similar options as
> well. I would be
> willing to
> research it and share a large portion of the cost
> (others have
> volunteered to
> help pay for it as well).
>
> 2. No squeaks. that means the big dogs wouldn't hear
> it. I would be
> willing to
>
> I know that I am not alone in this. i have already
> spoken to many people
> who
> would like to be able to throw a toy for their dog.
> It is our area of
> the park, we
> get to set those rules. There are dozens of tennis
> balls in the
> Washington
> square park run.
>
> Lets discuss these rules before they are set in
> Lamination...
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Gunnar-

Thanks for your post - this is a great example of why it's important
to have you on our list!

> The small dog run was created under the explicit condition that it
> follow *all* the rules of the large dog run.  This includes the "no
> toys" rule.

I didn't understand that the rules for the runs had to be exactly the
same.  My apologies - I was unclear on that.  We have no desire to
walk back any of the ground rules, and I don't think any small dog
owners would want that.

> I strongly urge you to not act unilaterally on this issue.  For the
> sake of our working relationship, let's discuss this issue
> thoroughly before any action is taken.

Absolutely.  There will be no unilateral action - wow, that sounds
like something you say about a nulear arms treaty!

Gunnar - how do you feel about the visual barrier solution?  Tell us
a bit more about your objection to toys on our side.  I think this
toy issue is going to take some hashing out.

But rest assured that our official policy on toys - which is that
there are no toys allowed - will not change unless we can all come to
an agreement.

-Heather

> From: "Heather Malin" <heather@...>
> Reply-To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:59:42 -0400
> To: <smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [smalldogrunfolks] Rules
>
> Yes, Terry, this is an important issue.  From my discussions with folks, there
> is some disagreement on what people are comfortable with.

I hate this to be my first post in this group, but I feel obligated.

For those who don't know me, I'm one of the de facto managers of the First
Run.

The small dog run was created under the explicit condition that it follow
*all* the rules of the large dog run.  This includes the "no toys" rule.  We
(Carol, myself, and others) have been approached on this issue a number of
times, and our response has not changed.

Let me be clear: I completely support the small dog run, and I'm delighted
at the progress that everyone has made.  Thus far, the cooperation between
the small and large dog groups has been outstanding, and I'd like to keep it
this way.

I am deeply concerned, and I am sure you can understand, that the ground
rules both groups have already agreed to are being walked back.

I strongly urge you to not act unilaterally on this issue.  For the sake of
our working relationship, let's discuss this issue thoroughly before any
action is taken.

-Gunnar

-----Original Message-----
From: terrytowery10009 [mailto:terryt@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:25 AM
To: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [smalldogrunfolks] Rules

First of all it is great to have a place where we can go without fear of the man.
Thanks to all who did the work. I was on vacation at the time or would have
been there myself.

The welcome message mentioned that rules were being drawn up and that
they would be posted. Shouldn't we discuss these rules before a laminated
sign is made. I, for one, want to be able to throw a toy for Duke. Otherwise the
whole point of the dog run is moot to him and me. I know that there are others
out there who would also like to be able to play a game of fetch in the park
with their dogs. If the issue is the large dogs then I have two suggestions:

1. Put up a visual barrier. The mesh screens used in tennis courts would work
but I am sure there are other similar options as well. I would be willing to
research it and share a large portion of the cost (others have volunteered to
help pay for it as well).

2. No squeaks. that means the big dogs wouldn't hear it. I would be willing to

I know that I am not alone in this. i have already spoken to many people who
would like to be able to throw a toy for their dog. It is our area of the park, we
get to set those rules. There are dozens of tennis balls in the Washington
square park run.

Lets discuss these rules before they are set in Lamination...
--
________________________________________________
Terry Towery <terryt@...>
Assistant Professor of Art, Lehman College CUNY
Member of the Faculty, Parsons School of Design




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First of all it is great to have a place where we can go without fear of the
man.
Thanks to all who did the work. I was on vacation at the time or would have
been there myself.

The welcome message mentioned that rules were being drawn up and that
they would be posted. Shouldn't we discuss these rules before a laminated
sign is made. I, for one, want to be able to throw a toy for Duke. Otherwise the
whole point of the dog run is moot to him and me. I know that there are others
out there who would also like to be able to play a game of fetch in the park
with their dogs. If the issue is the large dogs then I have two suggestions:

1. Put up a visual barrier. The mesh screens used in tennis courts would work
but I am sure there are other similar options as well. I would be willing to
research it and share a large portion of the cost (others have volunteered to
help pay for it as well).

2. No squeaks. that means the big dogs wouldn't hear it. I would be willing to

I know that I am not alone in this. i have already spoken to many people who
would like to be able to throw a toy for their dog. It is our area of the park,
we
get to set those rules. There are dozens of tennis balls in the Washington
square park run.

Lets discuss these rules before they are set in Lamination...
--
________________________________________________
Terry Towery <terryt@...>
Assistant Professor of Art, Lehman College CUNY
Member of the Faculty, Parsons School of Design

Hey Everybody,

We have some great pictures of all our hard work last Thursday (as
well as an adorable shot of Taz and Corona).  I posted them in
our "Photos" section.  To get there, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smalldogrunfolks and click the "Photos"
link on the left.  The photos of us building the run are in the album
called "The Big Day".

Many thanks to Steve for the photos!

-Heather

Dear Small Dog Folks,

As you all know, the Small Dog Run is finally here!  I know we're all
excited that we have a safe and fun place to bring our little ones.
Thanks so much to all of you for your help and support in making this
important space come together!  I would also like to thank Carol and
Gunnar from the Big Dog Run for all their help - they have been
extremely supportive and we couldn't have done it without them.

I'd like to take this opportunity to let you all know some important
info.  First, we now have an online community.  You can use this
forum to post suggestions, problems, concerns or just to talk with
fellow small dog run users (and there's a spot to post photos).  I've
automatically signed up everyone who provided us with an email
address (you can easily unsubscribe if you want to).  Here's the deal:

Our home page:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smalldogrunfolks
Email for posting messages: smalldogrunfolks@yahoogroups.com

Click on "Edit my Membership" if you want to change your preferences.
Also, please make sure your contact information is up to date.

We have a number of high priority projects in the works to improve
the space.  They are:

-Rules: We will install a large, lamintated, permanent rules sign by
the entrance so people are clear on what the space is and what the
rules are.  Gyda (Joey's Mom) has offered to work on this - she'll
give us an update soon.  Many thanks to her for the new "This way to
the entrance" sign!

-Double-Gate:  We need a doubble gate similar to the one the big dog
run has.  I think we have enough materials to do it - I'll send out
an email asking for volunteers when we're ready to install it.

-New flooring:  Nici's brother (who is an expert landscaper) has
volunteered to look at the space and tell us what our options are.
I'll report back when we hear more on this, which should be in the
next couple of weeks.  In the meantime, if anyone has ideas for an
interim solution, let me know.

-Fundraising:  The start-up costs for the run were about $200, most
of which has  been repaid through donations (thanks to those who have
contributed!).  We need to raise more funds so we can get a real
treasury going for improvements.  I know several people are
interested in a fundraiser.  Let's get organized and raise some cash!

That's it for now.  Again, let's make use of our online community to
share ideas.  If you would like to contact me privately, feel free to
email me at heather@...

-Heather Malin (aka Neo's mom)

PS - Nici (aka Grubby's mom) can be reached at
ouiouigrub@... - as you all know, she's been instrumental in
bringing this to fruition.  She and I are both moderators of the group,
so feel free to contact either of us any time.