is anyone else planning to camp at the trail head that night?  I would be coming
up with one of my kiddos to ride/camp but dont want to camp there alone with all
the hunters coming/going and such.   I would feel more comfortable if several of
us horsey people were camped together, lol.

Tonja
www.tdavis123.net

Hey Everyone...we are having a day ride this Saturday at Pundt Park!  We will be
heading out at 10:00a.m.If you have never been to this park this is a must
ride!The trails are fantastic they have woods and trails and a creek to
ride.Lots and lots of trails. There are short trails that loop back or long
trails that I have yet to discover the end too! This park is in Spring
Texas...Go 59 to Humble 1960 exit go West  on 1960 for 6.8 miles to ALDINE
WESTFIELD RD turn right and go 3.8 miles to SPRING CREEK DR this road is on the
right after a Cheveron it's a small road  so watch for the Cheveron. Turn right
and this goes right into the park 1.8 miles...stay straight into the park go off
the concrete onto the gravel we will be on the left across from the playground!
Hope to see ya...Let's Ride!

This one ie nicer than mine.....

Walmart also has a cute belt clip one I use a LOT.  Not the greatest focus, and
no bells or whistles like zoom or flash, and it only holds 25 pics you have to
download before the batteries go out or it erases them all.  You can't beat the
$17 pricetag, though, and it takes just one AAA battery (I use rechargeable
Lithiums in mine).  Clips on your belt, too, so easy to carry on rides and quick
to get out and shoot, too.  I love it for quick wildlife and horse shots around
the barn.  It's the only way I've been able to catch my kids doing their
tricks--it always seems to take too long to get a regular camera, or too long to
get a better pixel one to take the picture.

:\

--Cindy Lee Haddock
Austin, TX
=========================

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "jimbradypi" <Jim@...> wrote:
>
> I know this could be off topic, but some have expressed the need for a new
camera & I saw this one... is pocket size or saddlebag size for those that want
something to carry on horseback.
>
> a great buy for the money and especially with the 4 GB card included.. I would
buy one if had not just bought new riding camera.
>
> here is link.. just fyi
>
>
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=13045396&adid=1500000000000\
012545180
>
> can copy and paste that in your browser.. do it quick.. they won't last long
at the price.
>

I know this could be off topic, but some have expressed the need for a new
camera & I saw this one... is pocket size or saddlebag size for those that want
something to carry on horseback.

a great buy for the money and especially with the 4 GB card included.. I would
buy one if had not just bought new riding camera.

here is link.. just fyi

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=13045396&adid=1500000000000\
012545180

can copy and paste that in your browser.. do it quick.. they won't last long at
the price.

Savvy Horsemanship is hosting an event at a beautiful private ranch, first time
offering to a special group of horsey friends.
Focus on fun (Christmas theme) and competition, naturally, of course.

Clinic with Kelly Haydon www.kellyhaydonhorsetraining.com on Friday,
Versatile Trail Competition Sat morning, followed by jackpot arena Versatile
Horse Timed Competition! Should be exciting!

Please see website for details: www.savvyhorsemanship.com and pre register.
Limited capacity for trailers! Overnight Guest House available. I did a Cowgirl
Weekend in Oct. there, it is really nice!

If you have trouble finding any information, or want more details:

Leslie Wetzel 281-414-8431
leslie@...

What time are they meeting to ride in the forest on Sat 28th
thanks Lori

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Photos from playdays and open shows.

http://public.fotki.com/CarrieLewis/he-reigns-arena-nfcc/

Our final playday is 27 November 2009 starting at 7 p.m.  See you there!

happy trails,

Carrie Woolverton
Triple Cross Ranches
Honey Creek Farms
Prairieville, Texas
Breeder of Early American Foundation Arabian Horses - The Working Class
American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of God
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        Hi everyone.  My husband has been welding and building metal
buildings for over 20 years.  He has an experienced crew and all tools
necessary to build barns, buildings, loafing sheds, etc.  He can also
repair or add on to metal buildings, barns, fences, etc.  We live in
the Dallas area and he is available to give quotes at all times.
Please email me and I will provide you with his phone number.

Thanks,
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Hi everyone.  My husband has been welding and building metal buildings for over
20 years.  He has an experienced crew and all tools necessary to build barns,
buildings, loafing sheds, etc.  He can also repair or add on to metal buildings,
barns, fences, etc.  We live in the Dallas area and he is available to give
quotes at all times.  Please email me and I will provide you with his phone
number.

Thanks,
Macy

Be sure to post this in the Applications area of the site and if you want to
discuss then please link over from the home page to the off topic area...
Thank you,
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For those of you who went along and want to see the photos and for those who have not ridden the National Forest up NW of Cleveland, here is a link to some photos of that ride.

http://jimbrady.multiply.com/photos/album/25

this is my multiply page - you can view the pics but not comment or download either I don't believe unless you sign up  for a free account, but you can see the photos.

Come join us for the big ride the 28th!

Just out of curiosity, are you referring to the Dumor Block?  I've heard folks
complain that those are so yummy horses will eat them in a day or so instead of
them lasting for days or even months as intended.  Or is this like one of those
barrel thingys like they have for cows with all the molasses in them?

Personally, I was thinking of getting one of those, but I've found it better to
break those or the crumbly salt licks up and put them directly into moistened
feed.  The horses seem to like the feed better, and I know how much salt,
vitamins and minerals they are getting, without blocks salting up my pasture
with each rain or being ignored by the horses, who would rather lick every rusty
bit of steel in the pasture than lick those red blocks.  Not to forget to
mention it is much cheaper than the mineral mixes you find in the feed stores.

--Cindy Lee Haddock
Austin, TX
============================

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "cassie3452" <cassie3452@...> wrote:
>
> The pic on this ad doesn't look like the small dark red bricks I have bought
before...at  TSC all I see are the large white salt licks, the sulfur (yellow)
50lb. licks and then the small red bricks...I have a small red brick still in a
large holder but they never use it? Only the white salt block, but again...I
feed supplements that will have some extras, so many they don't use because they
dont need?
> Ginger R.
>
> --- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "kimc911" <kimc911@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I keep out the white (salt), Yellow (sulfur) and Mineral and yes they
> > are for horses as well.... the big controversy years ago (and the ole
> > urban legend stays and stays) was not the mineral content was bad for
> > horses but that their tongues would become lacerated.  Well that is all
> > we have ever fed and in my 43 years of life I have never seen a bleeding
> > tongue on a horse from a mineral block and granddaddy fed them for a lot
> > longer....he never had one either...
> >
> > So the blocks are fine and so are the horses tongues....
> >
> > North American Salt- - Trace Mineralized Salt Block (per their site)
> > http://doitbest.com/Equine+Nutrition-North+American+Salt-model-41018-doi\
> > tbest-sku-708887.dib
> > <http://doitbest.com/Equine+Nutrition-North+American+Salt-model-41018-do\
> > itbest-sku-708887.dib>   Extremely weather-resistant. This 50 lb. Big 6
> > block is excellent for weight gain, feeding efficiencies, and overall
> > herd performance. Big 6 contains the 6 core micro minerals - zinc,
> > manganese, cobalt, copper, iodine, and iron - required for basic animal
> > health. Formulated for all classes of beef and dairy cattle, pigs, and
> > horses.
> >
> > Kim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com> , "cassie3452"
> > <cassie3452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > wow...how horrible!!! I don't even use the small dark red
> > ones....always heard it's 90% sale and only 10% minerals..and then some
> > folks say...don't feed them - they are for cattle not horses...I keep a
> > white salt block out and both horses have complete feeds and I do some
> > supplements individual to each horses needs...
> > > Ginger R.
> > >
> >
>

We will be having a horsemanship clinic with Michael Goheen on November 21 from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.  Dinner will be included.  Cost of clinic is $100 per rider.  Spectators are free from 8 to noon (or whenever they head out on the trail).  You can call Patti at 972-784-7037 to reserve your spot.

If you have a stable and would like to have Michael come to your place to do a clinic, please give Patti a call to work out arrangements. 

Patti Crow
South Paw Ranch and
Michael Goheen Horsemanship
www.southpawranchinc.com
972-784-7037

The pic on this ad doesn't look like the small dark red bricks I have bought
before...at  TSC all I see are the large white salt licks, the sulfur (yellow)
50lb. licks and then the small red bricks...I have a small red brick still in a
large holder but they never use it? Only the white salt block, but again...I
feed supplements that will have some extras, so many they don't use because they
dont need?
Ginger R.

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "kimc911" <kimc911@...> wrote:
>
>
> I keep out the white (salt), Yellow (sulfur) and Mineral and yes they
> are for horses as well.... the big controversy years ago (and the ole
> urban legend stays and stays) was not the mineral content was bad for
> horses but that their tongues would become lacerated.  Well that is all
> we have ever fed and in my 43 years of life I have never seen a bleeding
> tongue on a horse from a mineral block and granddaddy fed them for a lot
> longer....he never had one either...
>
> So the blocks are fine and so are the horses tongues....
>
> North American Salt- - Trace Mineralized Salt Block (per their site)
> http://doitbest.com/Equine+Nutrition-North+American+Salt-model-41018-doi\
> tbest-sku-708887.dib
> <http://doitbest.com/Equine+Nutrition-North+American+Salt-model-41018-do\
> itbest-sku-708887.dib>   Extremely weather-resistant. This 50 lb. Big 6
> block is excellent for weight gain, feeding efficiencies, and overall
> herd performance. Big 6 contains the 6 core micro minerals - zinc,
> manganese, cobalt, copper, iodine, and iron - required for basic animal
> health. Formulated for all classes of beef and dairy cattle, pigs, and
> horses.
>
> Kim
>
>
>
>
> --- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com> , "cassie3452"
> <cassie3452@> wrote:
> >
> > wow...how horrible!!! I don't even use the small dark red
> ones....always heard it's 90% sale and only 10% minerals..and then some
> folks say...don't feed them - they are for cattle not horses...I keep a
> white salt block out and both horses have complete feeds and I do some
> supplements individual to each horses needs...
> > Ginger R.
> >
>

I'll second that.
Years ago I read a really good article in John Lyons' Perfect Horse about
salt and mineral blocks.  And that info I learned has been reinforced on my
Equine Cushing's group where equine nutrition expert Dr. Eleanor Kellon also
recommends white salt only and not the mineral blocks.

The issue is that mineral blocks may not be in the right mineral amounts to
help with their diet and maybe even hurt.  For instance the iron content can
be very problematic for IR horses.  The other thing is no mineral mix is
going to match your hay, grass and feed.  Ideally we should analyze all that
our horses eat and calculating the mineral ratios.  Then either custom mix
your mineral supplements or checking the contents of the commercially
available supplements to see if one of them fits without wrong ratios being
created.  This is taught in some of Dr. Kellon's online nutrition courses if
anyone is really interested in digging into nutrition.
http://www.drkellon.com/coursedescriptions.html

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now :-)
Kathy
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: mineral block danger
     Posted by: "Mark Stolarski" mark.stolarski@... tx_knight
     Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:42 pm ((PST))
I am a strong believer of only using the white salt blocks and have been
very successful with that.

I keep out the white (salt), Yellow (sulfur) and Mineral and yes they are for horses as well.... the big controversy years ago (and the ole urban legend stays and stays) was not the mineral content was bad for horses but that their tongues would become lacerated.  Well that is all we have ever fed and in my 43 years of life I have never seen a bleeding tongue on a horse from a mineral block and granddaddy fed them for a lot longer....he never had one either...

So the blocks are fine and so are the horses tongues....

North American Salt- - Trace Mineralized Salt Block (per their site)
http://doitbest.com/Equine+Nutrition-North+American+Salt-model-41018-doitbest-sku-708887.dib  Extremely weather-resistant. This 50 lb. Big 6 block is excellent for weight gain, feeding efficiencies, and overall herd performance. Big 6 contains the 6 core micro minerals - zinc, manganese, cobalt, copper, iodine, and iron - required for basic animal health. Formulated for all classes of beef and dairy cattle, pigs, and horses.

Kim

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "cassie3452" <cassie3452@...> wrote:
>
> wow...how horrible!!! I don't even use the small dark red ones....always heard it's 90% sale and only 10% minerals..and then some folks say...don't feed them - they are for cattle not horses...I keep a white salt block out and both horses have complete feeds and I do some supplements individual to each horses needs...
> Ginger R.
>

wow...how horrible!!! I don't even use the small dark red ones....always heard
it's 90% sale and only 10% minerals..and then some folks say...don't feed them -
they are for cattle not horses...I keep a white salt block out and both horses
have complete feeds and I do some supplements individual to each horses needs...
Ginger R.

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "kimc911" <kimc911@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, my horses would take bites out of theses as well and big chunks...
> I do not feed the brown (paperbag color) block that is crumbly - can
> break off pieces with bare hands.
>
> Mineral blocks are fine and have been used for many, many years with no
> known (to me anyhow) issues for horses and cattle... they are a bit high
> in content for some sheep though.
>
> The original poster did make the distinction between the mineral and
> forage blocks...
>
> Kim C - Moderator
>
> --- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com> , Cassandra <cassi_8@>
> wrote:
> >
> > i received this from another list i am on and thought it good to pass
> on to you guys - this isn't anything i've checked on personally but this
> may be something to be careful of:
> > I found Tuffy down
> > yesterday and put in an emergency colic call to the vet.  They came
> and
> > diagnosed an extreme impaction and decompressed 3 2-gallon buckets of
> > gunk and blood.  I loaded her and took her to my vet's clinic.  After
> 2
> > hours of scoping her, sedating her and loading her with banamine and
> > rectal palptation, she was deteriorating RAPIDLY and still convulsing
> > and gasping for air from the pain.
> >
> > They hung her IV bags
> > in my trailer and I ran her 2 hours south to Wellington wherre they
> did
> > an emergency surgery with only a 10% expectation of her making it and
> a
> > 90% expected outcome of having to euthanize her on the table.
> >
> > THANK GOD, she made
> > it .  She had a foregut (duodenal obstruction) which turned out to be
> a
> > big chunk of a forage block that I put out for them and they lick and
> > nibble on.   Somehow she got off a chunk the size of my fist and
> gulped
> > it whole and that sucker turned to clay in there.
> >
> > DO NOT USE THOSE
> > *^$#(^$# FORAGE/MINERAL BLOCKS!!!   (The kind that are tan in color
> and
> > crumbly in nature (versus rock hard like usual red or white mineral
> > blocks) and meant to be put out for horses on pasture as a supplement
> > forage/mineral type deal.)
> >
> > That forage block
> > damn near killed my buddy that I have had since she was a filly and
> > expected to have another 25-30 years God willing (they said if I had
> > found her 2 hours later, she would have been dead) and put her thru an
> > unnecessary amount of EXTREME pain and trauma.  She will be laid up on
> > stall rest for 8 weeks.
> >
> > The bill for the
> > surgery clinic alone is at $12,000 today and still mounting.   The
> > local vet emergency call bill was $520.  She will be in the ICU for
> > three more days, maybe longer.
> >
> > All of this pain,
> > suffering, tragedy and devasting financial blow over an $8 hunk of
> crap
> > forage block.   Beware & pass it on!
> >
> > Cassandra
> > =^..^=
> >
>

Yes, my horses would take bites out of theses as well and big chunks... I do not feed the brown (paperbag color) block that is crumbly - can break off pieces with bare hands.

Mineral blocks are fine and have been used for many, many years with no known (to me anyhow) issues for horses and cattle... they are a bit high in content for some sheep though.

The original poster did make the distinction between the mineral and forage blocks...

Kim C - Moderator

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, Cassandra <cassi_8@...> wrote:
>
> i received this from another list i am on and thought it good to pass on to you guys - this isn't anything i've checked on personally but this may be something to be careful of:
> I found Tuffy down
> yesterday and put in an emergency colic call to the vet.  They came and
> diagnosed an extreme impaction and decompressed 3 2-gallon buckets of
> gunk and blood.  I loaded her and took her to my vet's clinic.  After 2
> hours of scoping her, sedating her and loading her with banamine and
> rectal palptation, she was deteriorating RAPIDLY and still convulsing
> and gasping for air from the pain. 
> 
> They hung her IV bags
> in my trailer and I ran her 2 hours south to Wellington wherre they did
> an emergency surgery with only a 10% expectation of her making it and a
> 90% expected outcome of having to euthanize her on the table. 
> 
> THANK GOD, she made
> it .  She had a foregut (duodenal obstruction) which turned out to be a
> big chunk of a forage block that I put out for them and they lick and
> nibble on.   Somehow she got off a chunk the size of my fist and gulped
> it whole and that sucker turned to clay in there. 
> 
> DO NOT USE THOSE
> *^$#(^$# FORAGE/MINERAL BLOCKS!!!   (The kind that are tan in color and
> crumbly in nature (versus rock hard like usual red or white mineral
> blocks) and meant to be put out for horses on pasture as a supplement
> forage/mineral type deal.)
> 
> That forage block
> damn near killed my buddy that I have had since she was a filly and
> expected to have another 25-30 years God willing (they said if I had
> found her 2 hours later, she would have been dead) and put her thru an
> unnecessary amount of EXTREME pain and trauma.  She will be laid up on
> stall rest for 8 weeks. 
> 
> The bill for the
> surgery clinic alone is at $12,000 today and still mounting.   The
> local vet emergency call bill was $520.  She will be in the ICU for
> three more days, maybe longer.
> 
> All of this pain,
> suffering, tragedy and devasting financial blow over an $8 hunk of crap
> forage block.   Beware & pass it on!
>
> Cassandra
> =^..^=
>

Welcome to the group Alice and welcome back tookie as well ;)

Kim C - moderator

--- In texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com, "Cat" <brathorse65@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all welcome Alice, my good friend that now has Tookie, she is a first time
horse owner and new to trail riding she will be joining myself and Chuck
Saturday on our ride at 2666, she is my new riding buddy now that Kimberly has
moved away, and hopefully will be joining us on many group rides
>

Any of you want to try your hand at team penning, that will be the activity this
coming Friday night at Christian Cowboy Fellowship in Cleveland.
http://www.ChristianCowboyFellowship.org
is link for directions

at 5 is steer bucking and then about 7 they will start the team penning.

oh yea... NO cost - No fees

You can also email me for more info.
Jim

You can check the church calendar for other arena and church events. All are
free... we don't even charge you to come to a Bible study so join us for one of
those too.

 

who all is coming saturday ? just wondered what time , we are going to get there around 10 to tack up.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cat

To: texastrailriding@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:58 AM

Subject: [texastrailriding] Welcome New member Alice

 

Hi all welcome Alice, my good friend that now has Tookie, she is a first time horse owner and new to trail riding she will be joining myself and Chuck Saturday on our ride at 2666, she is my new riding buddy now that Kimberly has moved away, and hopefully will be joining us on many group rides

who all is coming saturday ? just wondered what time , we are going to get there
around 10 to tack up.

Hi all welcome Alice, my good friend that now has Tookie, she is a first time
horse owner and new to trail riding she will be joining myself and Chuck
Saturday on our ride at 2666, she is my new riding buddy now that Kimberly has
moved away, and hopefully will be joining us on many group rides