<EOM>Thanks for iviting me. I am obsessed
with tortioses. I have a Russian tortiose. Her name is
Charlie Smirnoff. I call her Mrs. Murtle. I was wondering
if anybody had any information on her. I cant seem
to find a site for just russian tortioses.

Hello i am new to the club. i have 1 baby box
turtle named Fred. Well he isn't a baby anymore
(although he will ALWAYS be my baby!!!). He is almost 2 and
1/2 inches now! when i got him he was the size of a
quarter. he had a twin brother named Lloyd who died on
December 14th, 1999 because he fell onto his back
underneath the heatlamp :o( Fred misses Lloyd and doesn't
explore and get as much excerse as he used to when he had
a buddy to play with. Fred is almost 1 and a half.
his birthday is on October 11th, 1998. I got him from
a breeder in the California Turtle And Tortois
Club. If you have ANY questions/comments on box turtles
feel free to e-mail me and i will send you some info,
answer your questions, and even send you a blueprint
(copy) of what Fred's outdoor habitat looks like (plants
and stuff all labled). Dogperson11@... is my
e-mail address. i am a female from the middle of
California. wanna become buds? add me to your list and say
you are from the turtle club! :o) we will chat
sometime! :o) <a href=http://www.daniellefishel.friendpages.com
target=new>http://www.daniellefishel.friendpages.com</a> and
<a href=http://www.petperson.friendpages.com
target=new>http://www.petperson.friendpages.com</a> and <a
href=http://www.boymeetsworld.friendpages.com
target=new>http://www.boymeetsworld.friendpages.com</a> are
my websites. please sign the guestbooks! :o) thanks
~Jenny/Jen~

Thanks for the invite; I've always been curious how founders select recipiants
of club-invites. How did you know that I love turtles???? Really, how do you
decide who to invite to your club?

A tribe of turtles live by the sea- swim swim
swim away with me.<br>Atribe of turtles live in a
cave- gave gave gave something to me.<br>A tribe of
turtles live in the woods- could could dance with
me.<br>A tribe of turtles live by the creek- sneak sneak
up to me.<br>A tribe of turtles by the river- give
giver giver of goods to me.<br>A tribe of turtles live
by the shore- snore snore snore around my door.<br>A
tribe of turtles live by the stream- scream scream
scream for more ice cream.<br>A tribe of turtles live in
the ocean- causing motion, causing motion.<br>A tribe
of turtles live by a boat- looking for coats,
looking for goats.<br>A tribe of turtles live by a
redwood tree- te-he-he, te-he-he.<br>A tribe of turtles
live in a temple- all with dimples, all with
dimples.<br>A tribe of turtles live in a log- sob sob sob, sob
sob sob.<br>A tribe of turtles live by the pond- now
they are gone- now they are gone.

Ten little turtles swimming in a pond-<br>one
goes to the moon & now he's gone<br>Nine little
turtles swimming in a pond-<br>one goes to Pluto so he
can learn judo<br>Eight little turtles swimming in a
pond<br>one goes to Uranus so he can rain on us.<br>Seven
little turtles swimming in a pond-<br>one goes to
Jupiter to get a good look at her.<br>Six little turtles
swimming in a pond-<br>one goes to Neptune to get his
guitar tuned.<br>Five little turtles swimming in a
pond-<br>one goes to Mars to count the stars.<br>Four little
turtles swimming in a pond-<br>one goes to Saturan to
learn a new pattern.<br>Three little turtles swimming
in a pond-<br>one goes to Venus just to say he seen
us.<br>Two little turtles swimming in a pond-<br>one goes to
Mercury because he's in a hurry.<br>One little turtle
swimming in a pond.<br>He stays on Earth so he's not gone!

Sail sail away with me to the deep blue sea - the
deep blue sea- and I will set you free.<br>A ridley
turtle digs her nest- just to see if it will pass the
test. Then along comes all the rest- along the coast is
the best.<br>Sail sail away with me to the deep blue
sea- the deep blue sea- and I will set you
free.<br>There is an old hawksbill who lives in the sea- he's
been there indefinitely- from glaciers age to anicent
times- he's been swimming the seaweed vines.<br>Sail
sail away with me to the deep blue sea- the deep blue
sea- and I will set you free.<br>Be careful be careful
old loggerhead- because the fishermans nets are just
ahead- don't get caught or entangled in their traps
because I won't know where you are at.<br>Sail sail away
with me to the deep blue sea- the deep blue sea - and
I will set you free

Thanks for all of the suggestions, but i ahave
tried all of these things, And much to my amazement i
observed the first mateing activity that i have seen since
the one very excitable male i had at that time passed
on from a problem with his sexual organ,that was
five years ago, so maybe they are all done morning the
loss of him,i doubt that, but at least there is some
activity starting again, maybe i will be successfull this
time. All of the eggs bred from him were infertile so i
have never been lucky enough to hatch any of
them.<br><br>Yes my experience has been that they are very violent
and they do often bite, the female, but they recover
quickly. The best part is the noise the male makes that is
comical.

Please take the time to update your yahoo
profiles. You can put your web address on the links & also
add this club under cool links. type in
http;//clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tortoiseshellsociety?s That way anyone looking at
your profile can also
find this club. You can earn traveling turtle points
for refering new members. ( more about this later).
Under latest news type in if they join the tortoise
shell to mention that you sent them. They can do this
on the enrollment page by typing it in the message
section. See sample on my profile.<br>Don't forget to tell
us a little about yourself under the hobbie section
too, such as how many & what kind of turtles you may
have. Or why you like turtles so much.<br>I like to
turtle surf. Profiles can help to promote this club &
your club if you have one. So take the time to tell us
your turtle details.

Mating season is in early Spring. The warm
weather & longer daylight usually puts the males in the
mood. Courtship can become somewhat violent. The males
will do a lot of head bobbing when he approaches the
females. He may ram into her shell & even bite her until
she becomes submissive. (Im not sure but I think I
read somewhere else that they have to be at least five
years old) Also you may try seaprating the males from
the females for awhile and even changing their
enviorment & diet. Offer them new foods and see if this
makes them more curious.

Hey turtlelady, thanks for anything you find, i
have read many things but as you know info is scarce,
my problem is that my males are not interested at
all, who knows, maybe they are just picky. But thanks
for anything you find. Jerry

If you wamt to see how the Turtle club got it's
A**, go to this link:
<br><a href=http://www1.linkonline.net/rodpad/turtle.html
target=new>http://www1.linkonline.net/rodpad/turtle.html</a><br>or if you want
to know more, go
to:<br><a href=http://www.dorsai.org/~walts/turtle.html
target=new>http://www.dorsai.org/~walts/turtle.html</a><br>While your there,
check out his links. There great, and
a lot of fun.<br>gnoble767

carguy2 I dont off hand but I have a bunch of
turtle books at home & I will look up some info for you.
It may take a couple days so keep checking back. My
computor at home isnt on line yet, so I use the library
computor.

Your legend that I had in mind is the one about
"are you a turtle?' how that came about. I wasnt aware
of any others, good thing you are discreet. You know
the one about the guy walking around with the jackass
& starting the turtle club?

I've found only one limerick in my book of 1,700
limericks that would be concidered appropiate, only because
it's about a turtle. You should be cautious about your
invitations for material.<br><br>There was a young lady named
Myrtle,<br>Who had an affair with a Turtle.

I've been successful in adding a picture of my
Turtle Club card to me home club page, The International
Turtle Club, but I'm not able to upload a picture to
your photo albums. I don't know what the trouble
is.<br>Anyway, if you or any of your members want to see my club
card, just go to your links and look for the
International Trutle club and click on that link.

Does anyone here have expeirience with breeding the yellow foot tortoise, please
let me know thanks Jerry

TSS provides a turtle newsletter of fables,myths,
legends & stories - fact & fiction on the club message
board.<br>2.All turtle stories, songs & poems are welcome. If you
are the author of the story please note who is, so
proper will be given.<br>3.All stories on the message
board are dated so there is proof of who publishes the
story & when.(please respect copyright
laws).<br>4.Members must promise not to steal stories to make a
profit by reselling for publication.<br>5. If you wish
to use stories for other purposes please get
permission from the author.<br>6.You are giving the Tortoise
Shell permission to use your stories in their
newsletter, Some newsletters are mailed first class to
members not on the web. Proper credit is always given to
the authors. <br>7. Authors of all stories, poems &
songs are the owners of their stories & may resale them
if they please.<br>8.The main goal of TSS is to have
a giant turtle story book on their club message
board. If you have read a good turtle book feel free to
recomend it to other members. Tell us which stories are
your favorites. Also discussions on turtle fact &
fiction are also welcome.<br>9.Turtle links are welcome
to be posted in the club links. But please post
other favorite links in your profile. And remeber to
update your profile when you get a chance. as part of
our turtle family we would like to know a little
about you.<br>10. Turtle photos are welcome to be
posted in club photo album. We would enjoy seeing your
pet turtles.<br>11. You can read previous stories by
clicking on messages on the left side of this page. A list
of messages will appear, then just click on the
title that you want to read. When posting stories on
the message board be sure to title your story for
easy location later.<br>12.REMEBER CLUB MOTO; WHATEVER
HAPPENS TO THE ANIMALS WILL ALSO HAPPEN TO
MANKIND.<br>13. PRACTICE CLUB PLEDGE; I PLEDGE TO ALWAYS KEEP IN
MIND THE IMPORTANCE OF TAKING CARE OF OUR NATURAL
HABITATS & TO BE KIND TO ALL ANIMALS & HUMANS.<br>14.CLUB
SLOGAN; HAVE A TURTLEDEE DAY!<br>15.If you would like to
join our turtle email list to ;
www.egroup.com/group/tylersturtles<br>This is a turtle email newsletter which
includes
turtle alerts & other news. It also is a place to tell
us about your pets. All turtle topics are
welcome.<br>16.If you are interested in making turtle crafts visit
our yahoo sister club TYLERS TRAVELING TURTLES at
http;//clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tylerstravelingturtles?s<br>17.THANK YOU FOR
JOINING THE TORTOISE SHELL SOCIETY. WE
HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY & PARTICPATE IN OUR CLUB
MEMBERSHIP. HAVE A TURTLEDEE DAY.

Thank you to new members who answered email
invitations. Welcome
aboard!Atacey,a_aujla,huey10025,nitsug953,oober1,rigiici,&tyrtyl. I will be
adding new stories this week end. Im
not much of a writer so dont be shy about adding your
stories. Songs & poems are also welcome. If you post
stories or poems that someone else wrote be sure to give
them credit if you know who wrote them. Also if you
come across a good turtle book be sure & let the rest
of us. Visit us often & invite your friends. Have a
turtledee day!

Welcome Terpolka, Nitsug953, gnoble767, canks44 &
dophin5. If you have a web page be sure to add it to our
links. And dont miss checking out our previous messages
posted for the legends,myths & fables. Feel free to add
stories- fact & fiction. One of our goals is to have a
large turtle story book on the message board. Even the
tortoise & the hare can be told several different ways.
And comments about which turtle stories you like best
or recomend are encouraged to also be posted. The
Tortoise Shell Society is more than just a story book
newsletter, questions on seperating fact from fiction are
also welcome. Visit us regually and have a turtledee
day!

Visit our sister club Tylers Traveling Turtles to
find all kinds of craft ideas on making novelity
turtles. You will them posted in the message board.
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tylerstravelingturtles?s
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tylerstravelingturtles?s</a>

The Shamans of the Iroquois Nations tell a story
about a sulky & hypersensive man who in a fit of rage
pushes his wife into the abyss. A great turtle catches
the falling woman on the back of his shell. The
otter,beaver & muskrat bring bits of magic earth to the
turtles shell to form a new earth. The turtle called a
summit to discuss how to bring light & heat to the
crying woman. A small turtle climbs to the clouds &
gathers two large balls of lighting. He throws them to
the large turtle thereby creating the sun and the
moon.

According to anicent Chinese legend. Kwei was a
divine tortoise. Kwei was embodied in the constellation
Ursa Major. Foe 18,000 years Kwei supervised the
formation of the earth. He expanded the Heavens & placed
the sun & moon & stars there. When that was done he
took thought & by thinking he conceived & produced the
great millennial turtles of China & Japan. These
turtles seek truth & assist mankind. They also support
the worlds burdens by holding up the continents on
the back of their shells. They assisted China's
Emperors by supporting the foundation of a great wall
known as Kwei Ching or Tortoise Wall.

Once upon a time all the creatures of the earth
lived upon the shell of a huge turtle that was adrift
in the primordial sea, Day by day the crabs brought
up sand from the bottom of the sea.The crabs mounded
the sand to the shell of the turtle until it became
the earth. The turtle was exceedingly friendly &
wise. It was the Indians shrewed source for advice.

There once was a giant turtle so large that four
elephants stood on the back of its shell. And on the
elephants stood Atlas who carries the earth. The turtle
moves slowly through time with its heavy burden. Thats
how the turtle became the foundation of the earth

IF YOU FIND A TURTLE ON ITS BACK & HELP IT TO UP RIGHT ITSELF YOU GET THREE
WISHES. USE THEM WISELY.

welcome bzturtle you have a very cute web site, thanks for adding it to our
links

Dont miss checking out our cool links, just click on links to the left.

DO you ever have dreams about turtles? Tell us about them and then check back
next month to find out what types of dreams others are having.

WELCOME tkswolfp to the club , Im sorry it took so long to get back to you. My
computor at home is not on line yet. So I have to visit the library after work.
Thanks for joining.  Tyler8181

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