Tannin in the detritus, contaminated hatch water, cannibalization...aj
> To: triopsforever@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:39:34 +0000
> Subject: [Triops Forever] Re: Update: Low survival rate in young triops?
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> So I think I figured out (at least one of...) my problem(s)
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> I think there is a large amount of bad bacteria in my aquarium because when I
put food in there, it quickly clouds up and cakes together.
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> I've put some dried leaves and such now, so we'll see how that works.  But
does anyone else have ideas on how to get rid of undesirable bacteria?
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> I'm actually using old coconut shavings per someone's previous recommendation,
but that can get pretty dirty and hard to clean up.  If anyone else has dealt
with this problem, as always your input is important to me.
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> --- In triopsforever@yahoogroups.com, shinchanian <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> > Hi All
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> > I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but it's now becoming pretty
consistent that I can't seem to get triops to live much longer than a week.
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> > I don't know if it is my tank adjusting or what, but I recently replaced all
the water in my tank and I can't seem to get my triops to live very long.  I
have a good hatch rate, just a terrible survival rate.
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> > Does anyone know what might be causing this?  To much temperature
fluctuations?  I've seen the tank range from the 72-74mark (in the mornings) up
to the 80-82 mark (before I go to bed and turn off the aquarium light)
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> > Any thoughts?
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> > Also..... I noticed that a previous poster said he sold triops eggs by the
POUND?!?!!?  How many eggs are in a pound!?! It's got to be an astronomical
number!
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I believe shinchanian wrote this email section below:
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> So I think I figured out (at least one of...) my problem(s)
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> I think there is a large amount of bad bacteria in my aquarium because
> when I put food in there, it quickly clouds up and cakes together.

Or maybe you're putting in too much?
A small thin slice of sweet potato will last for days in a triops tank and
will not cloud for days.

> I've put some dried leaves and such now, so we'll see how that works.
> But does anyone else have ideas on how to get rid of undesirable bacteria?


You start off by adding desirable bacteria. :-)

Visit a decent aquarium shop and you'll find all sorts of waste control
bacteria which performs a technique called 'competitive exclusion'.

http://theaquariumwiki.com/competitive_exclusion
My article lists various products.

It works.

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http://mytriops.com/
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So I think I figured out (at least one of...) my problem(s)

I think there is a large amount of bad bacteria in my aquarium because when I
put food in there, it quickly clouds up and cakes together.

I've put some dried leaves and such now, so we'll see how that works.  But does
anyone else have ideas on how to get rid of undesirable bacteria?

I'm actually using old coconut shavings per someone's previous recommendation,
but that can get pretty dirty and hard to clean up.  If anyone else has dealt
with this problem, as always your input is important to me.

Thanks!











--- In triopsforever@yahoogroups.com, shinchanian <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but it's now becoming pretty
consistent that I can't seem to get triops to live much longer than a week.
>
> I don't know if it is my tank adjusting or what, but I recently replaced all
the water in my tank and I can't seem to get my triops to live very long.  I
have a good hatch rate, just a terrible survival rate.
>
> Does anyone know what might be causing this?  To much temperature
fluctuations?  I've seen the tank range from the 72-74mark (in the mornings) up
to the 80-82 mark (before I go to bed and turn off the aquarium light)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Also..... I noticed that a previous poster said he sold triops eggs by the
POUND?!?!!?  How many eggs are in a pound!?! It's got to be an astronomical
number!
>

it is ok for me.

but I didnt get exactly how mutch you have? 50*450 gram? or 50*5*10 eggs?

so that is very kind of you to mention it for me for amount, based on hatch
rate, with price, with different combinations of delivery. for example:

Offers Amount (Gram) Amount (NO. of Eggs) Hatch rate Price Place and term of
shipment
Offer1         FOB Dudai
Offer 2         FOB Bandar-Abbas
Offer 3         Post packet, Delft, The Netherlands
Offer 4         Post Packet, Tehran, Iran
Best regards,
Ali.



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From: Art Jones <artjones@...>
To: triopsforever@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2009 19:28:47
Subject: RE: [Triops Forever] Triop Bulk buy

 

I HAVE PRESENTLY UP TO 50#. PRICE DEPENDS ON PROVEN HATCH PER GRAM FOR A GIVEN
LOT, IN 5# INCREMENTS. THE HATCH PER GRAM DETERMINES THE RATIO OF MIX WITH
DETRITUS OR OTHER MEDIUM, TO PRODUCE PACKETS WITH A DEMONSTRATED HATCH RATE FOR
EACH PACKET, OF TEN PLUS, PER PACKET. WE TUMBLE TRIOP EGG IN 5# LOTS AND DO
HATCH TEST ON A CROSS SECTION FROM EACH LOT, THEN STORE EACH SEPARATE LOT
SEPARATELY PENDING SALE, WITH THE LOT NUMBER AND HATCH RATE RECORDED FOR
REFERENCE. A PRICE PER POUND IS DERIVED BASED ON 450 GRAMS PER POUND, ALLOWING
YOU TO CALCULATE YOUR PROFIT ON YOUR GIVEN PACKET PRICE. CONTACT: REPLY, EMAIL
In fact, I am a wholesaler of triop egg and detritus. I have a quantity
available. aj
> To: triopsforever@ yahoogroups. com
> From: alikarkhaneh@ yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:55:27 +0000
> Subject: [Triops Forever] Triop Bulk buy
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> Hi everybody.
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> I want to konw is here anybody sales triop eggs in bulk?
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> just send me the amount you have and your price to start negotiation.
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Those are some great pics, thanks for sharing!

I think pink eggs are normal, that's the color of my TL eggs, but it looks like
you may have a TA, yeah?

The eggs I collect also vary depending on what else is collected with it,
perhaps the eggs are easily stained.

When I get eggs along with other muck from the end of a cycle, they eggs are all
dark brown and even when dried, remain dark brown.  If I collect the eggs only,
such as if the triops sheds strangely so that that entire egg sac goes with it
then the eggs start off pink and dry off white

I'd love to hear if those eggs produce clones of your albino!




--- In triopsforever@yahoogroups.com, "spreggo" <spreggo@...> wrote:
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> I had suspicions about my first triops coloration being funny. I wasn't sure
since it was my first and I didn't really have any references. Now that I'm
flipping through photos of my recent generation and the first, I'm pretty sure
that something was up...
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> http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/4use.JPG
> http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/3use.JPG
> http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/11.JPG
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> Anyone have any opinions on the matter?
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> Also, the eggs I collected from this one are all pink. Is that normal, or is
that connected to the coloration?
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> Thanks everyone :)
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I believe spreggo wrote this email section below:
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> I had suspicions about my first triops coloration being funny. I wasn't
> sure since it was my first and I didn't really have any references. Now
> that I'm flipping through photos of my recent generation and the first,
> I'm pretty sure that something was up...
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> http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/4use.JPG
> <http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/4use.JPG>
> http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/3use.JPG
> <http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/3use.JPG>
> http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/11.JPG
> <http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/11.JPG>
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> Anyone have any opinions on the matter?

Cute pictures.

Not 100% true albino of course. But nice none the less.
Compare them with the images in the Gallery by "Derrick Triops" of true albinos.

> Also, the eggs I collected from this one are all pink. Is that normal,

Triops eggs are pink.
See my photo - http://mytriops.com/gallery/Triops-Eggs


> or is that connected to the colouration?

I doubt it.
Albino animals are quite common across species. Every species has an albino
form, even humans.
It's usually down to a DNA defect or perhaps not quite the right conditions
or lack of a chemical in its environment.
Triops are not that well studied to say for sure why it happens
unfortunately. :-)


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Stuart Halliday
http://mytriops.com/
200 Million years in the making...

I had suspicions about my first triops coloration being funny. I wasn't sure
since it was my first and I didn't really have any references. Now that I'm
flipping through photos of my recent generation and the first, I'm pretty sure
that something was up...

http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/4use.JPG
http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/3use.JPG
http://www.spreggo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/11.JPG

Anyone have any opinions on the matter?

Also, the eggs I collected from this one are all pink. Is that normal, or is
that connected to the coloration?

Thanks everyone :)

I believe shinchanian wrote this email section below:

> - Would nitrite be a problem in a new tank like this though?

Yes.

> When does nitrite become a problem?

When it appears. :-) But it's more likely to be NH3.

> Is there an easy way to test for this ...

Just get yourself a ammonia and nitrite liquid test kit.

  >... or deal with it?

Dosage daily or bi-daily with a quantity of Prime by Seachem.


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http://mytriops.com/
200 Million years in the making...