Many banded bats here in England are recaught or checked at roost on surveys and
virtually all seem to be fine. If we catch or find in bat boxes banded bats they
are always checked. Not had any problems to date.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cynthia Myers
   To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:20 PM
   Subject: WBL: RE: Re: Re: RE: raising orphan bats



   Ummm.. That raises a whole different controversy, as many bats are
   injured or killed by bands. A rehabber in South Africa did a study on
   banding hand-reared pups and the results were devastating!

   Jackie, are you still on this group and do you mind if I share your
   findings? (I still have the doc, being the email packrat that I am.)

   Cindy Myers
   Fallbrook CA

   www.BatWorld.org
   home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
   ^..^

   -----Original Message-----
   From: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com [mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com]
   On Behalf Of Sally Humphreys
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:53 AM
   To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: WBL: Re: Re: RE: raising orphan bats

   Raised orphan bats for some years. I know it is successful as one banded
   bat escaped from the outside flight and spent his first winter in my
   attic! Band all pups. Hope to prove that females hand reared can raise
   their own young successfully.






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We use the old Lambourne bands from England. But they went out of business and
we're running out. I won't use the USF&W bands. They are not tumbled or smoothed
at all and probably set up inflammation in a bats tissues very quickly. The only
bats we band are the larger myotis species, pallids and BBs. We had to remove
bands on over 300 Corys when it was determined that the bands were causing
problems. For several years after that, whenever we found a banded male we would
catch them to remove the bands. (We knew where the females had a day roost, so
were able to retrieve all the bands in a single trip.)

Patricia
Calif. Bat Cons. Fund

> Ummm.. That raises a whole different controversy, as many bats are
> injured or killed by bands. A rehabber in South Africa did a study on
> banding hand-reared pups and the results were devastating!
>
> Jackie, are you still on this group and do you mind if I share your
> findings? (I still have the doc, being the email packrat that I am.)
>
> Cindy Myers
> Fallbrook CA
>
> www.BatWorld.org
> home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
> ^..^
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com [mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Sally Humphreys
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:53 AM
> To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: WBL: Re: Re: RE: raising orphan bats
>
> Raised orphan bats for some years. I know it is successful as one banded
> bat escaped from the outside flight and spent his first winter in my
> attic! Band all pups. Hope to prove that females hand reared can raise
> their own young successfully.
>
>


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We have found several banded myotis yumanensis females raised from infancy by us
and released into a colony in Calistoga; they were raising young a few years
after release. We have also seen banded pallid females several years after
raising and releasing into a sanctuary colony, but did not net them to see if
they were lactating. Same for BBs.
I'm helping with a study this spring on what BBs eat  in the North Bay area of
Calif. We have released several BB females into this colony that were hand
raised from infancy. I'll see if I can talk the bat biologist into setting up a
harp trap in early summer to check the banded females.

Patricia
Calif. Bat Cons. Fund

> Raised orphan bats for some years. I know it is successful as one banded bat
escaped from the outside flight and spent his first winter in my attic! Band all
pups. Hope to prove that females hand reared can raise their own young
successfully.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BatWorld NoVa
> To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:04 AM
> Subject: WBL: Re: RE: raising orphan bats
>
> I'm sorry I don't have time to address this fully right now, but there are no
data I'm aware of to indicate that bats can't be released 'because of
echolocation.' Other animals use highly developed senses and we routinely
release them. It's like saying a skunk won't know how to spray if he didn't
learn from mama.
>
> I gotta say, I think this is an old rehabber's myth, right up there with red
bats eating peaches, and any rehabber who's still spouting off about it should
be forced to go catch up with the modern world. Megan--I would love to know
where you heard that hand reared bats can't be released, because I will
challenge that person to prove it. Barbara French's article on red bat release
came out at least 2 years ago, maybe longer, and an issue of Bat World News
featured a microscopic photo of guano from a post-release juvenile that had bits
of native bugs in it. There are at least 10 years worth of anecdotal data from
actual bat rehabbers who have seen post release bats in the wild holding normal
weight and foraging. I caught a juvenile escapee in my back yard this summer who
was fat. How did I know she was out there?? I watched her forage around my head!
What more do these old fuddy duddys want??
>
> Sorry, but I don't run around telling other rehabbers what is and isn't
possible until I've done the research and/or tried it myself. Gah--grumpy now.
Must go feed releasable bats.
>
> Leslie Sturges, Director
> Bat World NOVA
> www.batworld.org
> 703-973-3157
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cynthia Myers
> To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:39 PM
> Subject: WBL: RE: raising orphan bats
>
> Megan, I found that paper and another of a study done in the UK, and
> will send to you offlist.
>
> Cindy Myers
> Fallbrook CA
>
> www.BatWorld.org
> home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
> ^..^
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hello. I wanted to get some opinions on raising orphan bats. I've heard
> both sides- you can and you can't?? The biggest concern has been
> learning echolation. I'd love to hear other people's opinions.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ummm.. That raises a whole different controversy, as many bats are
injured or killed by bands. A rehabber in South Africa did a study on
banding hand-reared pups and the results were devastating!

Jackie, are you still on this group and do you mind if I share your
findings? (I still have the doc, being the email packrat that I am.)

Cindy Myers
Fallbrook CA

www.BatWorld.org
home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
^..^


-----Original Message-----
From: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com [mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sally Humphreys
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:53 AM
To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
Subject: WBL: Re: Re: RE: raising orphan bats

Raised orphan bats for some years. I know it is successful as one banded
bat escaped from the outside flight and spent his first winter in my
attic!  Band all pups. Hope to prove that females hand reared can raise
their own young successfully.

Raised orphan bats for some years. I know it is successful as one banded bat
escaped from the outside flight and spent his first winter in my attic!  Band
all pups. Hope to prove that females hand reared can raise their own young
successfully.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: BatWorld NoVa
   To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:04 AM
   Subject: WBL: Re: RE: raising orphan bats



   I'm sorry I don't have time to address this fully right now, but there are no
data I'm aware of to indicate that bats can't be released 'because of
echolocation.' Other animals use highly developed senses and we routinely
release them. It's like saying a skunk won't know how to spray if he didn't
learn from mama.

   I gotta say, I think this is an old rehabber's myth, right up there with red
bats eating peaches, and any rehabber who's still spouting off about it should
be forced to go catch up with the modern world. Megan--I would love to know
where you heard that hand reared bats can't be released, because I will
challenge that person to prove it. Barbara French's article on red bat release
came out at least 2 years ago, maybe longer, and an issue of Bat World News
featured a microscopic photo of guano from a post-release juvenile that had bits
of native bugs in it. There are at least 10 years worth of anecdotal data from
actual bat rehabbers who have seen post release bats in the wild holding normal
weight and foraging. I caught a juvenile escapee in my back yard this summer who
was fat. How did I know she was out there?? I watched her forage around my head!
What more do these old fuddy duddys want??

   Sorry, but I don't run around telling other rehabbers what is and isn't
possible until I've done the research and/or tried it myself. Gah--grumpy now.
Must go feed releasable bats.

   Leslie Sturges, Director
   Bat World NOVA
   www.batworld.org
   703-973-3157
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cynthia Myers
   To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:39 PM
   Subject: WBL: RE: raising orphan bats

   Megan, I found that paper and another of a study done in the UK, and
   will send to you offlist.

   Cindy Myers
   Fallbrook CA

   www.BatWorld.org
   home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
   ^..^

   -----Original Message-----

   Hello. I wanted to get some opinions on raising orphan bats. I've heard
   both sides- you can and you can't?? The biggest concern has been
   learning echolation. I'd love to hear other people's opinions.

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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That's an easy fix!
thanks
lisa^*^




________________________________
From: "heckhaven@..." <heckhaven@...>
To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 2:23:33 PM
Subject: Re: WBL: Medical alert card for wallet


I think it would depend on the lab tech that read the  blood sample.  Down
here - they would either "miss it" all together, or  scream "She's Rabid".
No, really - the Virus would/should show up  different than as the titer.
(BUT, I do write on the card the date of my last  Rabies Booster - just in
case.)
Suzy



In a message dated 11/21/2009 2:15:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
battobat@yahoo. com writes:

That is great information.
I'm wondering... I'm wondering... <WBR>..if medical people  check for rabies
and we have a titer would they thin

lisa^*^

____________ _________ _________ __
From:  "_heckhaven@aol. hec_ (mailto:heckhaven@aol. com) "
<_heckhaven@aol. hec_ (mailto:heckhaven@aol. com) >
To: _raptorcare@ yahoogroraptorc_ (mailto:raptorcare@yahoogro ups.com) ;
_WildlifeCareSuppor tWildlifeCareSWi l_
(mailto:WildlifeCareSupport @yahoogroups. com) ; _wlrehab@listserv. wlrehab@l_
(mailto:wlrehab@listserv. nodak.edu) ;
_worldbatline@ worldbatlinewor_ (mailto:worldbatline@ yahoogroups. com)
Sent:  Fri, November 20, 2009 7:08:21 AM
Subject: WBL: Medical alert card for  wallet

Just an FYI - I feel this would be good to have - you never know  when
something might happen that will put you in need, and you would be  unable
to
speak. The download is easy and wallet size.

_In the  Spotlight - Medical Wallet Card for Wildlife Professionals_
(_http://feedproxy._ (http://feedproxy./) google.com/ ~r/WildlifeDisea
seNews/~3/ I6CICauK4ZE/ in-spotlight-  med
ical-wallet- card-for. html?utm_ source=feedburne r&utm_medium=  email)
Posted: 19 Nov 2009 10:01 PM PST
Don't Leave Home without Your  Medical Alert Card!

(_http://i45.tinypic._ (http://i45.tinypic./)  com/23r0fhu. jpg)
Biologists working with wildlife may
be exposed to a variety of disease  agents. USGS National Wildlife Health
Center (NWHC) has developed a wallet  card that wildlife professionals can
carry with them to alert medical  personnel about potential exposure to
zoonotic diseases.

Contact  information is provided for both the Centers for Disease Control,
on the  occurrence of zoonotic diseases in humans, and the NWHC, for
information  on diseases in wildlife.

Download the wallet card _here_
(_http://www.nwhc._ (http://www.nwhc./) usgs.gov/ outreach/ medical_
alert_ wallet_card. pdf) .[pdf]

Suzy
HECKHAVEN WILDLIFE REHABILITATION CENTER
Lake Charles,  Louisiana
501(c) - all donations much appreciated and needed
Federal and  State - Rehab, Possession, and Education permits
25+ years - Mammals,  Raptors, Waterfowl, and Exotics
_www.snowhawk. com/heckhaven _ (_http://www.snowhawk http://www. sno_
(http://www.snowhawk.com/heckhaven) )
_www.heckhaven. com_ (_http://www.heckhavehttp:/_
(http://www.heckhaven.com/) )
Rehabber = Common Sense, the Vision to Improvise, and the Courage to  Try.
Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; and
responsibility for all your actions.

[Non-text portions of this  message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tis that time of year again...

I filled a plastic cup with rehydrated 'soil moist' crystals from the garden
center and covered it with a piece of rubberized shelf liner secured with a
rubber band. It raised the humidity level in the cage by 10%. Cheap and easy and
not prone to mold/mildew like sponges.

Leslie Sturges, Director
Bat World NOVA
www.batworld.org
703-973-3157

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm sorry I don't have time to address this fully right now, but there are no
data I'm aware of to indicate that bats can't be released 'because of
echolocation.' Other animals use highly developed senses and we routinely
release them. It's like saying a skunk won't know how to spray if he didn't
learn from mama.

I gotta say, I think this is an old rehabber's myth, right up there with red
bats eating peaches, and any rehabber who's still spouting off about it should
be forced to go catch up with the modern world. Megan--I would love to know
where you heard that hand reared bats can't be released, because I will
challenge that person to prove it. Barbara French's article on red bat release
came out at least 2 years ago, maybe longer, and an issue of Bat World News
featured a microscopic photo of guano from a post-release juvenile that had bits
of native bugs in it. There are at least 10 years worth of anecdotal data from
actual bat rehabbers who have seen post release bats in the wild holding normal
weight and foraging. I caught a juvenile escapee in my back yard this summer who
was fat. How did I know she was out there?? I watched her forage around my head!
What more do these old fuddy duddys want??

Sorry, but I don't run around telling other rehabbers what is and isn't possible
until I've done the research and/or tried it myself. Gah--grumpy now. Must go
feed releasable bats.

Leslie Sturges, Director
Bat World NOVA
www.batworld.org
703-973-3157
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cynthia Myers
   To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:39 PM
   Subject: WBL: RE: raising orphan bats



   Megan, I found that paper and another of a study done in the UK, and
   will send to you offlist.

   Cindy Myers
   Fallbrook CA

   www.BatWorld.org
   home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
   ^..^

   -----Original Message-----

   Hello. I wanted to get some opinions on raising orphan bats. I've heard
   both sides- you can and you can't?? The biggest concern has been
   learning echolation. I'd love to hear other people's opinions.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Megan, I found that paper and another of a study done in the UK, and
will send to you offlist.

Cindy Myers
Fallbrook CA

www.BatWorld.org
home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
^..^


-----Original Message-----

Hello. I wanted to get some opinions on raising orphan bats. I've heard
both sides- you can and you can't?? The biggest concern has been
learning echolation. I'd love to hear other people's opinions.

I think it would depend on the lab tech that read the  blood sample.  Down
here - they would either "miss it" all together, or  scream "She's Rabid".
  No, really - the Virus would/should show up  different than as the titer.
  (BUT, I do write on the card the date of my last  Rabies Booster - just in
case.)
Suzy



In a message dated 11/21/2009 2:15:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
battobat@... writes:




That is great information.
I'm wondering...I'm wondering...<WBR>..if medical people  check for rabies
and we have a titer would they thin

lisa^*^

________________________________
From:  "_heckhaven@..._ (mailto:heckhaven@...) "
<_heckhaven@..._ (mailto:heckhaven@...) >
To: _raptorcare@yahoogroraptorc_ (mailto:raptorcare@yahoogroups.com) ;
_WildlifeCareSupportWildlifeCareSWil_
(mailto:WildlifeCareSupport@yahoogroups.com) ;  _wlrehab@...@l_
(mailto:wlrehab@...) ;
_worldbatline@worldbatlinewor_ (mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com)
Sent:  Fri, November 20, 2009 7:08:21 AM
Subject: WBL: Medical alert card for  wallet

Just an FYI - I feel this would be good to have - you never know  when
something might happen that will put you in need, and you would be  unable
to
speak. The download is easy and wallet size.

_In the  Spotlight - Medical Wallet Card for Wildlife Professionals_
(_http://feedproxy._ (http://feedproxy./)   google.com/ ~r/WildlifeDisea
seNews/~3/ I6CICauK4ZE/ in-spotlight-  med
ical-wallet- card-for. html?utm_ source=feedburne r&utm_medium=  email)
Posted: 19 Nov 2009 10:01 PM PST
Don't Leave Home without Your  Medical Alert Card!

(_http://i45.tinypic._ (http://i45.tinypic./)  com/23r0fhu. jpg)
Biologists working with wildlife may
be exposed to a variety of disease  agents. USGS National Wildlife Health
Center (NWHC) has developed a wallet  card that wildlife professionals can
carry with them to alert medical  personnel about potential exposure to
zoonotic diseases.

Contact  information is provided for both the Centers for Disease Control,
on the  occurrence of zoonotic diseases in humans, and the NWHC, for
information  on diseases in wildlife.

Download the wallet card _here_
(_http://www.nwhc._ (http://www.nwhc./)   usgs.gov/ outreach/ medical_
alert_ wallet_card. pdf) .[pdf]

Suzy
HECKHAVEN WILDLIFE REHABILITATION CENTER
Lake Charles,  Louisiana
501(c) - all donations much appreciated and needed
Federal and  State - Rehab, Possession, and Education permits
25+ years - Mammals,  Raptors, Waterfowl, and Exotics
_www.snowhawk. com/heckhaven _ (_http://www.snowhawkhttp://www.sno_
(http://www.snowhawk.com/heckhaven) )
_www.heckhaven. com_ (_http://www.heckhavehttp:/_
(http://www.heckhaven.com/) )
Rehabber = Common Sense, the Vision to Improvise, and the Courage to  Try.
Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; and
responsibility for all your actions.

[Non-text portions of this  message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bat World will get the amount matched by each donor.

Thank you to those who have contributed so far! Donations are down this year and
we need all the help we can get.

Amanda

--- In worldbatline@yahoogroups.com, CorkySeph@... wrote:
>
>
>
> What is the "Kentucky Pledge Grant." I expect it is some kind of matching
> fund, but how much does Bat World get.
>
> Corky
>
> Corky
>
> In a message dated 11/20/2009 5:48:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> cmsquare@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Forwarding from another group -
>
> Cindy Myers
> Fallbrook  CA
>
> www.BatWorld.www.
> home.earthlink.home.earthlin
> ^..^
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: _worldbatline@worldbatlinewor_ (mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com)
>  [mailto:_worldbatline@worldbatlinewor_
> (mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com) ]
> Sent:  Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:54 PM
> To: World Bat Line
> Subject: WBL:  Kentucky Pledge
>
> Dear Worldbatline Friends,
>
> As you know, this  listserve was created by Bat World Sanctuary eight
> years ago so we could  all share information and help save the lives of
> bats the world over. Bat  World has also provided diagnostic and
> treatment pages free of charge to  bat caretakers across the globe.
>
> Bat World Sanctuary has recently had  an offer of the "Kentucky Pledge
> Grant." In order to qualify, we need to  receive five matching grants of
> $100 each. Any help you can give us with  this request will be greatly
> appreciated and will, of course, be used to  save the lives of more bats.
> A free membership to Bat World Sanctuary is  included with your donation.
> Please help us if you can.
>
> Mail checks  to:
> Bat World Sanctuary
> 217 N.Oak Ave
> Mineral Wells, TX  76067
> (please put Kentucky Pledge in the memo area of your  check)
>
> Donate online through this link:
> _http://www.batworldhttp://www.bhttp://www._
> (http://www.batworld.org/donate/donate.html)
> (Please  reference Kentucky Pledge in the notes section)
>
> Thank you so much for  doing all that you can to help save bats.
>
> Dottie Hyatt
>
> Bat World  Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
> that provides  rescue for bats worldwide. For more information
> about bats and how they  make  our world a better place please
> visit www.batworld.visit ww
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Latest bat  rehab info:
> _http://www.batworldhttp://www.batwohttp://www.batwhttp_
> (http://www.batworld.org/worldbatline/worldbatline.html)
> Worldbatline  message archives:
> _http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Wht_
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldbatline)
>
> Yahoo!  Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Corky
>
> Mary Jean "Corky" Quirk
> NorCal  Bats - Rescue and Education
> Sacramento valley and foothills
> P.O. Box  933
> Davis, CA  95617-0933
> 530-902-1918
> www.NorCalBats.org
>
> Wildlife Rehabilitation  Permit with
> Wildlife Rehabilitation & Release
> P.O. Box 868
> Penn  Valley, CA 95946
> 530-432-5522 center
>
> USDA Permit #  93-C-0796
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Just Bat World Sanctuary? Not that another Bat World Sanctuary exists elsewhere
which maybe does not have to do a lot with saving bats (you never know....).

Gabriele

> ----------
> Von:  worldbatline@yahoogroups.com im Auftrag von Bat World Sanctuary
> Antwort an:  worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet:  Samstag, 21. November 2009 6:31 Uhr
> An:  worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff:  WBL: Use Goodsearch to save bats
>
>
>
> Please help us raise funds to save bats by using Goodsearcb when searching the
web. Every time you use it a it will raise $$
> for BWS, and the search is actually powered by Yahoo. Here's a link, be sure
to put Bat World Sanctuary as your charity:
http://www.goodsearch.com/default.aspx
>
> Thank you for helping us help them.
>
> Amanda
>
>
> ---
> Amanda Lollar, Founder/President
> Bat World Sanctuary
> www.batworld.org
>
> Bat World Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
> that provides rescuefor bats worldwide. For more information
> about bats and how they make our world a better place please
> visit www.batworld.org
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That is great information.
I'm wondering.....if medical people check for rabies and we have a titer would
they think we have rabies?

lisa^*^




________________________________
From: "heckhaven@..." <heckhaven@...>
To: raptorcare@yahoogroups.com; WildlifeCareSupport@yahoogroups.com;
wlrehab@...; worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 7:08:21 AM
Subject: WBL: Medical alert card for wallet


Just an FYI - I feel this would be good to have - you  never know when
something might happen that will put you in need, and you would  be unable to
speak.  The download is easy and wallet  size.


_In the Spotlight - Medical Wallet Card for Wildlife  Professionals_
(http://feedproxy. google.com/ ~r/WildlifeDisea seNews/~3/ I6CICauK4ZE/
in-spotlight- med
ical-wallet- card-for. html?utm_ source=feedburne r&utm_medium= email)
Posted:  19 Nov 2009 10:01 PM PST
Don't Leave Home without Your Medical Alert  Card!

(http://i45.tinypic. com/23r0fhu. jpg) Biologists working with  wildlife may
be exposed to a variety of disease agents. USGS National  Wildlife Health
Center (NWHC) has developed a wallet card that wildlife  professionals can
carry with them to alert medical personnel about  potential exposure to
zoonotic diseases.

Contact information is  provided for both the Centers for Disease Control,
on the occurrence of  zoonotic diseases in humans, and the NWHC, for
information on diseases in  wildlife.

Download the wallet card _here_
(http://www.nwhc. usgs.gov/ outreach/ medical_alert_ wallet_card. pdf) .[pdf]

Suzy
HECKHAVEN WILDLIFE REHABILITATION  CENTER
Lake Charles, Louisiana
501(c) - all donations much appreciated and  needed
Federal and State - Rehab, Possession, and Education permits
25+  years - Mammals, Raptors, Waterfowl, and Exotics
_www.snowhawk. com/heckhaven _ (http://www.snowhawk.com/heckhaven)
_www.heckhaven. com_ (http://www.heckhaven.com/)
Rehabber =  Common Sense, the Vision to Improvise, and the Courage to Try.
Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for  others; and
responsibility for all your actions.

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Just an FYI - I feel this would be good to have - you  never know when
something might happen that will put you in need, and you would  be unable to
speak.  The download is easy and wallet  size.


_In the Spotlight - Medical Wallet Card for Wildlife  Professionals_
(http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WildlifeDiseaseNews/~3/I6CICauK4ZE/in-spotlight-\
med
ical-wallet-card-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)
Posted:  19 Nov 2009 10:01 PM PST
Don't Leave Home without Your Medical Alert  Card!

  (http://i45.tinypic.com/23r0fhu.jpg) Biologists working with  wildlife may
be exposed to a variety of disease agents. USGS National  Wildlife Health
Center (NWHC) has developed a wallet card that wildlife  professionals can
carry with them to alert medical personnel about  potential exposure to
zoonotic diseases.

Contact information is  provided for both the Centers for Disease Control,
on the occurrence of  zoonotic diseases in humans, and the NWHC, for
information on diseases in  wildlife.

Download the wallet card _here_
(http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/outreach/medical_alert_wallet_card.pdf) .[pdf]








Suzy
HECKHAVEN WILDLIFE REHABILITATION  CENTER
Lake Charles, Louisiana
501(c) - all donations much appreciated and  needed
Federal and State - Rehab, Possession, and Education permits
25+  years - Mammals, Raptors, Waterfowl, and Exotics
_www.snowhawk.com/heckhaven _ (http://www.snowhawk.com/heckhaven)
_www.heckhaven.com_ (http://www.heckhaven.com/)
Rehabber =  Common Sense, the Vision to Improvise, and the Courage to Try.
Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for  others; and
responsibility for all your actions.



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Please help us raise funds to save bats by using Goodsearcb when searching the
web. Every time you use it a it will raise $$
for BWS, and the search is actually powered by Yahoo. Here's a link, be sure to
put Bat World Sanctuary as your charity: http://www.goodsearch.com/default.aspx

Thank you for helping us help them.

Amanda


---
Amanda Lollar, Founder/President
Bat World Sanctuary
www.batworld.org

Bat World Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
that provides rescuefor bats worldwide. For more information
about bats and how they make  our world a better place please
visit www.batworld.org


PLEASE GO GREEN, print only of necessary

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West End Animal Hospital just made a $100 donation, too.

Debbie Cottrell DVM
westendanimal.com


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What is the "Kentucky Pledge Grant." I expect it is some kind of matching
fund, but how much does Bat World get.

Corky

Corky

In a message dated 11/20/2009 5:48:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cmsquare@... writes:




Forwarding from another group -

Cindy Myers
Fallbrook  CA

www.BatWorld.www.
home.earthlink.home.earthlin
^..^

-----Original Message-----
From: _worldbatline@worldbatlinewor_ (mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com)
  [mailto:_worldbatline@worldbatlinewor_
(mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com) ]
Sent:  Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:54 PM
To: World Bat Line
Subject: WBL:  Kentucky Pledge

Dear Worldbatline Friends,

As you know, this  listserve was created by Bat World Sanctuary eight
years ago so we could  all share information and help save the lives of
bats the world over. Bat  World has also provided diagnostic and
treatment pages free of charge to  bat caretakers across the globe.

Bat World Sanctuary has recently had  an offer of the "Kentucky Pledge
Grant." In order to qualify, we need to  receive five matching grants of
$100 each. Any help you can give us with  this request will be greatly
appreciated and will, of course, be used to  save the lives of more bats.
A free membership to Bat World Sanctuary is  included with your donation.
Please help us if you can.

Mail checks  to:
Bat World Sanctuary
217 N.Oak Ave
Mineral Wells, TX  76067
(please put Kentucky Pledge in the memo area of your  check)

Donate online through this link:
_http://www.batworldhttp://www.bhttp://www._
(http://www.batworld.org/donate/donate.html)
(Please  reference Kentucky Pledge in the notes section)

Thank you so much for  doing all that you can to help save bats.

Dottie Hyatt

Bat World  Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
that provides  rescue for bats worldwide. For more information
about bats and how they  make  our world a better place please
visit www.batworld.visit ww

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Latest bat  rehab info:
_http://www.batworldhttp://www.batwohttp://www.batwhttp_
(http://www.batworld.org/worldbatline/worldbatline.html)
Worldbatline  message archives:
_http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Wht_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldbatline)

Yahoo!  Groups Links








Corky

Mary Jean "Corky" Quirk
NorCal  Bats - Rescue and Education
Sacramento valley and foothills
P.O. Box  933
Davis, CA  95617-0933
530-902-1918
www.NorCalBats.org

Wildlife Rehabilitation  Permit with
Wildlife Rehabilitation & Release
P.O. Box 868
Penn  Valley, CA 95946
530-432-5522 center

USDA Permit #  93-C-0796


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Barbara French (former Science Officer of Bat Conservation
International, now with Bat World Sanctuary) published a paper a few
years back on the apparently innate ability of young hand-reared red
bats to learn to echolocate and feed by instinct. I can send you a copy
offlist if you'd like to read it, since we can't attach files to
messages on this group.

Bat World Sanctuary also printed a newsletter article about success with
young released Mexican Freetail who provided evidence (read "guano")
that he was successfully catching his own bugs. I'll see if I can find
that as well.

Cindy Myers
Fallbrook CA

www.BatWorld.org
home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
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-----Original Message-----
From: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com [mailto:worldbatline@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Megan
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:08 AM
To: worldbatline@yahoogroups.com
Subject: WBL: orphan bats

Hello. I wanted to get some opinions on raising orphan bats. I've heard
both sides- you can and you can't?? The biggest concern has been
learning echolation. I'd love to hear other people's opinions.

In memory of my father Ralph Herbold who died this year at 93, I will
donate $100. He always encouraged me in all my interests and was proud of any
and
all of my rehab attempts and would grin at my bats.

I don't want to cause any problems, but I don't think challenges are
appropriate in this arena where rehabbers may be giving their all financially.

janet dunlap, Oregon


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Dottie,

I will send Amanda a check for $100 and I challenge each bat world satellite
rescue center to do the same.

Gail Barnes
Bat World South Plains
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dottie Hyatt
   To: World Bat Line
   Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:53 PM
   Subject: WBL: Kentucky Pledge



   Dear Worldbatline Friends,

   As you know, this listserve was created by Bat World Sanctuary eight years ago
so we could all share information and help save the lives of bats the world
over. Bat World has also provided diagnostic and treatment pages free of charge
to bat caretakers across the globe.

   Bat World Sanctuary has recently had an offer of the "Kentucky Pledge Grant."
In order to qualify, we need to receive five matching grants of $100 each. Any
help you can give us with this request will be greatly appreciated and will, of
course, be used to save the lives of more bats. A free membership to Bat World
Sanctuary is included with your donation. Please help us if you can.

   Mail checks to:
   Bat World Sanctuary
   217 N.Oak Ave
   Mineral Wells, TX 76067
   (please put Kentucky Pledge in the memo area of your check)

   Donate online through this link:
   http://www.batworld.org/donate/donate.html
   (Please reference Kentucky Pledge in the notes section)

   Thank you so much for doing all that you can to help save bats.

   Dottie Hyatt

   Bat World Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
   that provides rescue for bats worldwide. For more information
   about bats and how they make  our world a better place please
   visit www.batworld.org

   PLEASE GO GREEN, print only of necessary

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Dear Worldbatline Friends,

As you know, this listserve was created by Bat World Sanctuary eight years ago
so we could all share information and help save the lives of bats the world
over. Bat World has also provided diagnostic and treatment pages free of charge
to bat caretakers across the globe.

Bat World Sanctuary has recently had an offer of the "Kentucky Pledge Grant." In
order to qualify, we need to receive five matching grants of $100 each. Any help
you can give us with this request will be greatly appreciated and will, of
course, be used to save the lives of more bats. A free membership to Bat World
Sanctuary is included with your donation. Please help us if you can.

Mail checks to:
Bat World Sanctuary
217 N.Oak Ave
Mineral Wells, TX 76067
(please put Kentucky Pledge in the memo area of your check)

Donate online through this link:
http://www.batworld.org/donate/donate.html
(Please reference Kentucky Pledge in the notes section)

Thank you so much for doing all that you can to help save bats.

Dottie Hyatt


Bat World Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
that provides rescue for bats worldwide. For more information
about bats and how they make  our world a better place please
visit www.batworld.org



PLEASE GO GREEN, print only of necessary











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Hello. I wanted to get some opinions on raising orphan bats. I've heard both
sides- you can and you can't?? The biggest concern has been learning echolation.
I'd love to hear other people's opinions.

Please reply directly to the worman at the email address below, as I don't
believe she's a member of World Bat Line.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, rick crichton <crichto@...> wrote:










Hello all
 
Any information regarding the recovery and flighting of microbats that have
sustained punctured/collapsed lung would be greatly appreciated.
 
Mary Crichton, Seaton , South Australia
www.adelaidebatcare.com.au
info@...
crichto@...
 




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Seen it on another list - it's very interesting!
Kathy

Jamie Curtis wrote:
>
>
> I'm almost afraid to clck on this link for fear of getting some really
> peculiar spam if I've picked up any spyware.
>
> http://news.discovery.com/animals/bats-engage-in-oral-sex.html
> <http://news.discovery.com/animals/bats-engage-in-oral-sex.html>
>
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>


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I'm almost afraid to clck on this link for fear of getting some really peculiar
spam if I've picked up any spyware.


http://news.discovery.com/animals/bats-engage-in-oral-sex.html


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I just changed email programs and can't tell whether someone answered this
or not but when I was studying to be a docent for a zoo, that question came
up in regard to carrion eating birds. They have featherless heads and necks
to faciliate cleanliness. Imagine what could happen to their eyes etc. if
their food remained stuck to their faces? Ick. My guess would be bats have
undergone a similar adaptation because it helped them hunt and stay healthy.
Echolocation makes sense because it could be possible that fur would muffle
the effect.

Cinnamon

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:50 AM, storm <miss.megan14@...> wrote:

>
>
> >
> > I sent a bat photo to a small group to which I belong because I try to
> > provide the members with
> > a bit of bat and rehab information now and then. One person wrote back
> > to ask why the bat had
> > a naked face. My immediate thought was - because the bat has no facial
> > hair. But that didn't
> > seem like the answer the person would want. Because it would interfere
> > with echolocation?
> > So they won't get insects caught in their beards? Because once they
> > lost their thumbs they could
> > no longer shave? Is there a good answer?
> > Mary Anna
> >
> > --
> > Mary Anna Cook-Babcock
> > Naturalist
> > Wildlife Rehabilitation Consultant
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >
> _______________________________
> I don't know if there is a good answer but it is an interesting question.
>
> Do all microbats have naked faces? The one species of megabat that uses
> echolocation - does that have a naked face?
>
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>
>
>


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http://news.discovery.com/animals/bats-engage-in-oral-sex.html



---
Amanda Lollar, Founder/President
Bat World Sanctuary
www.batworld.org

Bat World Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
that provides rescuefor bats worldwide. For more information
about bats and how they make  our world a better place please
visit www.batworld.org


PLEASE GO GREEN, print only of necessary

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Hi Cindy,

The only thing that can be done is to amputate the finger(s) so friction doesn't
occur anymore. The reason it's probably not healing is that wherever the bat is
roosting he's likely constantly bumping/scrapping the finger. This happens quite
a bit to bats who have wings that have healed in unnatural positions. They
always develop sore areas on their fingers over time, and they will always be
the ones roosting at the edge of the colony so other bats don't step on or twist
their fingers.

They either need to figure out what's in the roost causing friction to the
finger, or amputate the fingers and eliminate the problem for good. Please feel
free to forward this message to them.

Amanda


---

Amanda Lollar, Founder/President

Bat World Sanctuary

www.batworld.org

Bat World Sanctuary is a non-profit conservation organization
that provides rescue for bats worldwide. For more information
about bats and how they make  our world a better place please
visit www.batworld.org


PLEASE GO GREEN, print only of necessary

--- In worldbatline@yahoogroups.com, "Cynthia Myers" <cmsquare@...> wrote:
>
> Forwarding an inquiry posted to another list -
>
>
> Cindy Myers
> Fallbrook CA
>
>
>  <http://www.batworld.org/> www.BatWorld.org
>  <http://home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare> home.earthlink.net/~cmsquare
> ^..^
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marie-Josée Limoges
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: BATLINE: Elbow luxation in a flying fox
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> This question is about a 16 year old bat (Indian Flying Fox) diagnosed
> with chronic luxation of the third digit of the right wing (secondary to
> a trauma that happened in 2005). Globally, the animal maintains a good
> quality of life, but the luxation couldn't be reduced, so that the wing
> is kept in an awkward angulation on the right side.
>
>
>
> Since the 21st of October, the animal developed a superficial wound to
> the medial side of the affected wing (right next to the third digit).
>
> The wound is reddish and about 1.5 cm in diameter. We suspect that this
> wound persists due to chronic friction of the abnormal wing in the wire
> netting of its cage.
>
>
>
> For now, we apply a small quantity of Flamazine on the affected skin
> every day, but the wound doesn't seem to regress. No sign of infection
> is present for the moment, but we would like to protect this wing of any
> further trauma, so that the wound could heal more easily. Is there any
> practical way of protecting the wound with a bandage that would stay in
> place on the wing of a bat?
>
> Any suggestion or ideas on this case would be really appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks for everything.
>
> Josée
>
>
>
> Josée Guilmette, DMV
>
> Veterinary Intern
>
> Granby Zoo
>
> Quebec, Canada
>
> guilmette_j@...
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Some, though not all, red bats have some fur on their faces.  Their muzzles are
always naked, though.
 
Carol Bunyard
Oklahoma

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, storm <miss.megan14@...> wrote:


____
I don't know if there is a good answer but it is an interesting question.

Do all microbats have naked faces? The one species of megabat that uses
echolocation - does that have a naked face?


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